cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51133131

[Video] Jewish Zionist in Montreal yells at a brown man that he is going to kill a lot of brown people. "I fking killed a lot of motherfkers like you... I'm going back to do more."

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[–] 88 points 2 months ago (12 children)

He really should get punched in the goddamn mouth.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago

    Follow the Book of Judges on him.

    Then Adoni-Bezek said, “Seventy kings with their thumbs and big toes cut off have picked up scraps under my table. Now God has paid me back for what I did to them.” They brought him to Jerusalem, and he died there. Judges 1:7

    The Book of Judges is biblical punishment for crimes. Soldiers had their thumbs and big toes removed. The thumbs prevented them from holding a sword again. The toes prevented them from running.

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  • [+] -19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The police are useless and just as likely to agree with him.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The police will not “agree with him” they will follow the law. If you are so disillusioned with our justice and legal system that you advocate for vigilante violence because you are a TikTok PhD in justice then please consider moving elsewhere since Canada doesn’t play that nonsense

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    LMFAO, you ever seen how the police manage anti genocide protests in Canada? This guy is not going to be arrested for anything, and if he is, it's not because of the law, it'll only be because thousands of Canadians made a stink over it. For every guy like him there will be a thousand who get away with it.

    The number is Canadian citizens who have served with with IDF since the conflict was deemed a genocide by the UN is astronomical and not a single one has been charged with crimes against humanity.

    And yet we have dozens of protestors in Canada charged with crimes for merely asserting Palestine's right to exist.

    You are naive to believe our legal system will deliver justice in this situation.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago*

    Currently the fact that one served with the IDF does not qualify for "crimes against humanity" as not all IDF members are forward deployed in roles where they could commit murder. Again - we have legal process - you are shooting from the hip and giving "I spray paint FREE PALESTINE and quote Mo Chara!" vibes both of which do fuck all for Palestine as does raging on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Tell that to the Allied soldiers from WW2

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Call the police so that they can do the state-santioned violence? Violence is still going to happen.

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    [–] 42 points 2 months ago

    Low key the most fucked up part of this is that he's either recording or streaming the interaction himself, as though HE'S the fucking protagonist.

    These people are pure sociopaths.

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  • Call them all Nazis. Then proceeds to admitting to murdering innocent people based on their race because he believes he's part of the master race.

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  • [–] 69 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Imagine thinking killing vulnerable people makes you strong

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Depends what you mean by vulnerable, for example setting up a claymore in a Nazis toilet so they quite literally get ass blasted is technically killing someone at their most vulnerable. Not necessarily strong but not weak either. Though I'm being an asshole pedant right now and I fully get what you mean is disadvantaged and undefended populations and/or individuals.

    I wish to give Israel the Serbia treatment.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It makes you what's left, so by default, the strongest.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Put him on trial. Prepare the gallows for if his words are true. Should be that simple. Precedents from Nuremberg, Dachau, Krakow etc.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    We don’t have the death penalty in Canada nor should we be calling for anyone to be put to death for being a loudmouth asshole who is likely full of shit on the street. That’s a slippery slope. Is everyone in here like 14?

    We have other punishments for harassment and hopefully someone called the cops on him.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I called for a trial to assess if his words are true, and yes, I would be okay with capital punishment for enthusiastic participation in genocide. Was Nuremberg a slippery slope?

    You seem to be rushing not to take him at his word, to the extent that he shouldn't even be investigated for it and should just be charged with harassment, even though there's an active genocide going on and it's entirely plausible that he has murdered numerous innocent people as a participant, and he is claiming that he has.

    The harassment is obvious, but it's trivial compared to what he claims to have done. What he claims to have done should be investigated. If true, he should face the consequences of those choices.

    Fine if you disagree about capital punishment for crimes against humanity like mass murder and genocide, but there's nothing civilized about seeing a Nazi on the street saying he's killed many people in the camps and plans to kill more and just saying "He should really be more polite. We have rules about that."

    If he's just a loudmouth, fine, but at least investigate his claims and prevent him from killing more people if his claims are true, whether it's by capital punishment or by long-term imprisonment.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't tend to take people who appear to be mentally ill and harassing people at their word, no. I call the police and allow our legal system to handle the matter. Canada is a country of laws and due process and not punishment based on vibes and crazy shouting.

    We don't ship schizophrenic people off to The Hague without doing a bit of due diligence first and as with most ridiculous claims people make whilst screaming in public, it's highly likely this person is full of shit and mentally ill so maybe The Hague is bit premature. People who actually commit these types of crimes aren't known to stand around in public shouting about them dressed like someone's crazy ass old uncle.

    Capital punishment is, in case you are not Canadian, illegal and a non-starter here. We won't even extradite to places where it's legal unless they provide a firm guarantee that capital punishment will not be imposed (see United States vs. Burns - Canadian Supreme Court - 2001)

    This video shows someone who needs to be hauled off in a cop car and likely submitted for a psych evaluation.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The due process should be an investigation of his claims.

    There is an active genocide going on, and we have participants in that genocide walking around on Canadian streets. That's a reality. What he is claiming is entirely plausible. It's entirely plausible that he's one of the IDF who has murdered children, or murdered starving civilians trying to get food. Any investigation that did not assess his claims would be utterly negligent, and if his claims are true he should face consequences and be prevented from ever doing so again.

    If established that his claims are true, I'm fine with either capital punishment or long-term imprisonment. I disagree with Canadian law on the application of capital punishment in circumstances such as crimes against humanity like genocide, but I'm fine with accepting Canada's legal position.

    What I'm not fine with is there being an ongoing genocide, participants in it being free in Canada, and anyone claiming to have participated in it not being investigated. You are leaning towards dismissing it based on your own premature psychological assessment and strawmanning against the point that his claims should be investigated as though it is just wild hysteria.

    If he was being aggressive on the street and shouting "I beat the shit out my wife all the time and I'm going to beat her again" you wouldn't just say "He seems a bit off. This guy's like a crazy old uncle. Needs a bit of a psych eval" and leave it at that. You would fully expect that it should be checked whether or not he beats his wife, and if he did there should be consequences, because the shouting in public is not the most significant concern.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    We have hate speech laws here. Book ‘im Danno.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    Yeah this shit doesn't fly here

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It does. Illegal land sale happen in cult places and nobody is hold accountable

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    Dude, you just discovered that the New World was in fact, dominated and colonized by Europeans? Welcome to planet earth my fine son.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    In your mind, someone criticizing Canadians for their complacency in Canadian colonialism is somehow an indicator that they weren't aware of colonialism.

    You guys are so fucking easily satisfied, it's honestly disgusting. I've had this community get mad at me for criticizing the US too, y'know, before suddenly you guys woke up and realized it was evil because you were now marginally effected. Same with the EU, and same with Israel.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    The issue is, what the fuck do you want anyone here to do about it?

    Wail and moan, cover their heads with ash, roll on the floor, pulling their hair out, grovel in contrition over something no one in this day and time had anything to do with? There's all this rage over the past and the current bullshit that is happening in the here and now and people ARE admitting that yeah.. some of us had right rotten ancestors. So.. what now?

    What ARE you looking for with these rancid attacks over shit we know the history of? What's your point that we don't already know and that many already have come to the same conclusion about?

    I mean if you're just venting, at least admit it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    No country built on colonialism and supported by capitalism will take an honest, introspective look into genocide.

    The best that people can work for is to vote for a government that doesn't support or contine the tradition..

    Given the absolute moral vacancy of capitalism as it's being practiced today and basic human greed underpinning it, it's not going to happen quickly - no matter how impatient you are, and calling it out in rancorous terms just makes people and governments dig their heels in. That is human nature.

    The kind of profound societal change needed takes decades, maybe even centuries and doesn't arrive in a burst of righteous indignation.

    ...basically, you can catch more flies with honey, than you can with vinegar.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Right, sure, which is how we got any concessions we have so far, by being nice and patient.

    Your entire way of life has been built by other people doing that work and taking those risks for you, or did you think labour rights, healthcare, protections against racial, gendered, and sexual discrimination was all bought with "honey?" You think slavery was abolished in this country because people just felt fuzzy and warm one day? People died to get that for us, least you can do is recognize that and work to reduce the cost of blood in whatever comes next.

    No, this system is not fucking human nature, Ford Raptors and global systems of power are not human nature, and that is an understanding invented by the institutions of this system exactly because it inspires complacency among its privileged classes who can absolve themselves of the responsibility to challenge something they then believe is inevitable.

    You don't know your history, you haven't even read a book that outlines the debates on this topic, you think vibepolitics is enough. Other people don't have the privilege of being satisfied with so little.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Nice and patient? No, no patience, but a realization that change isn't instant. Decades.. It can take decades.

    Sometimes even things get ugly.

    Like when my friends and I got the shit kicked out of us by Billy Bulgers fag-bashing Boston police in 1988. (ActUp was a riot.) Or when I marched with hundreds of thousands of other people on Washington DC for reproductive rights..

    And sometimes you have to make chages in your own life choices. Such as when I quit the cable TV in 1999 as a permanent boycott of corporate media, and decided to not own a house or have kids, chose to keep my income under 30k a year so as to minimize my tax liability to a corrupt governent, lived without medical insurance my entire adult life, (surprise! I'm not a Canadian!) and decided to also refuse to buy anything new (other than underwear) for the last, oh.. 35+ years..

    Shit.. You think that I'm using a computer right now that was anything other than a dumpster dive, thrown away by kids that have to have the newest, fanciest kit? (It really is a dumpster dive machine..)

    The greed and avarice are ENTIRELY human nature, hardwired into our skulls by thousands of years of selective adaptation that put the most resources (ostensibly for breeding with the best partners and rearing children successfully) into the hands of those with the greatest drive to get them. The weak get pushed aside. This is Primate 101 behavior manifest into an economic model called capitalism. The past few decades it's been gutted of regualtory constraints, and is in full lassiez-faire mode, which is where we find ourselves now. Anything goes! And it does.

    So.. what choices will you make.. how are YOU going to undermine the dominant paradigm of a consumerist, conformist, capitalist society that is incapable of addressing it's current societal injustice and indolently refuses to wear it's own history?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Well, you are not making any friends with that attitude. (I am an impartial third party observer)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Why would I want to be friends with people angered by this...?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    A cause you believe in must be worth trying all approaches, no? If you truly believe in something, and you only turn to hostility to others, then your cause will only look as a hostile position to hold.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Nobody gained anything by appealing to fascists bud, move along, gaslighting doesn't work here.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Good for you, I also do not like the company of fascists. Here’s a question though, how are the people commenting on this platform fascists? Are they to be held accountable for the deeds of their forefathers ad infinitum? Shouls they kill themselves to repent? What would satisfy you? Now ask yourself, if it even does satisfy you, how are you better than them?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    A place with hate speech laws obviously

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Canada openly supports Israel politically and financially, it is full of white supremacists, and the state classified Hamas as a terrorist organization, this is not a country whose legal system is favourable for anti-fascism.

    Hate speech laws here are also oriented around illegalizing the profit from hate speech or its promotion, not just saying bigoted shit. You guys think this started only when you started noticing?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That man is ANTI SEMETIC! The one standing there doing nothing and NOT the One saying He's MURDERING lots of People!

    -The BBC!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    What a sack of shit

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  • [–] [M] 20 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    We got some reports/comments looking for context, so I went looking. So far there is this article: https://therover.ca/montreal-police-stand-back-while-man-assaults-photographer/

    There is an open investigation and the person's identity is known to the police:

    It was only after a video of the incident went viral two days later that Montreal police confirmed it was opening a hate crime investigation.

    Police took the assailant’s identification and let him go. Montreal police did not immediately comment on the assault, but one police source says it’s not uncommon, in situations like these, for police to take down information first and make an arrest at a later date.

    Please keep our guidelines in mind when commenting. You're free to share your frustrations/feelings about this situation, but please take a moment to see if there is a better way to word what you are trying to say: https://fedecan.ca/en/guidelines/

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    In the absence of any formal investigation, online vigilantes believe they have found the suspect’s real identity. They linked his photo to social media accounts and a blog with headlines like “CONFRONTATION WITH ISLAMO-NAZI/NON-BINARY BARBARIANS IN MONTREAL” and “ORPHAN JEWS WESTERN CIVILIZATION UNDER SIEGE.”

    The Rover was not able to reach the suspect for comment and therefore will not publish his name. But a search of his name in Quebec’s court database found criminal convictions for armed robbery, drug trafficking and assault among other crimes.

    Pretty easy to find his substack by googling the titles too...

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    like when you hit auto translate on a tweet entirely in hebrew

    like getting flashbanged by bad vibes

    crazy experience ngl

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    IM A ZIONIST

    ok buddy not something to be proud of

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    Threathening someone with murder is a offense in most jurisdictions, no?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    From the looks of it, this is happening just outside city hall in the old port. That is a very tourist area, so I do wonder if this person is from put of town or not.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Whether out of town or not, he should be put in jail for hate speech and then investigated further if he should be forwarded to the Hague.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I said that mostly because we've had some recent incidents of people not from here coming to Montréal to do heinous shit like the incel shooter a few months back. I live in a predominantly north african neighbourhood, the support for Palistine here is strong. I'm also part of IJV, an anti Zionist jewish organization who's largest chapter is here in Montréal. I hate to see my city represented in things like this as it isn't who we are.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Not sure being out of town matters. Guy is still a waste of air. How fragile do you have to be to want to be like this to seem tough.

    I know Russia is nothing to aspire to, but at least in Russia the citizens could smack this idiot around for his idiocy and the Police would be like "meh, that's fair, they solved the civil matter"

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Corrupt, arbitrary policing isn't the flex you think it is.

    If you want a law against this stuff, make a law against it, there probably already is one if the laws we have are properly interpreted and enforced. If you want proper enforcement of those laws and accountability for the police to actually follow those laws, then yes, we're on the same page.

    Vigilante justice only happens when your justice system has failed. Tolerance of vigilante justice only happens when your justice system has already failed twice. That's Russia.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    What I was referring to is in Russia it is perfectly legal to settle disputes by fist fights among citizens. No police intervention.

    In more Russian absurdity: Somewhere around 2017 ish, they also legalized hitting your spouse because if you can settle a dispute with a neighbour by fist fights, the same rules should apply to your spouse.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    ferme le bouche, connasse

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    they all think they're invincible even on camera, because they are, it seems...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    So when well people stop making excuses for Israelis and Israel.

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    Heyyy dont be rrrrrracist guys

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

    Need some context. When was this? Has the SPVM been involved?

    Edit: I realize that the "we need more context" phrase is often used to let assholes (esp cops) off the hook. But that's not what I'm trying to do, quite the opposite. I'm asking for more information about the interaction, like when was this (yesterdaty, this year, last year?), what's the source (is it OP?), what happened after, do we know who the self-proclaimed multi-murderer is, has anyone pressed charges, has the incident being reported by any news organization, etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    You're asking the right questions - we clearly have some sort of immature people here who aren't aware of how the law works (sorry you can't kill people you don't like - not even Zionists) and we have zero context as to when or where this took place and if someone called the cops (as they should have) and if charges were pressed (as they should have but not the death penalty since hi we don't have that in Canada and this person could be mentally ill or just an insane racist asshole or both - these do not qualify for the death penalty otherwise the homeless man in my town who screams racial epithets all day and claims he killed Oprah would have been gone long ago)

    sérieux là ça a l'air être de l'appât à rage sans contexte pour faire en sorte que les gens laissent des commentaires de même

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