And what a lot of vegans try to argue is that heterotrophic energy transfer is unnecessary.

Humans consuming plant matter constitutes heterotrophy. Until you sprout leaves and start photosynthesizing (no shade to any plant therians) you will always need heterotrophic energy transfer. Keeping animals as pets, or even just letting animals exist requires heterotrophy. Animals eat plants. Plants eat animals. Animals eat other animals. Obligate carnivores would cease to exist if they were prevented from eating other animals. You've created a moral system here that demands the extinction of any heterotroph, including humans. Personally, I'm not a misanthrope, and I also like seeing birds of prey out in the wild.

Fundamentally opposed to both the philosophy that non-human chattel deserve to be considered victims within human hierarchies, and to the whole vegan framework on agriculture and animal husbandry. It's not anti-science to point out that ecosystems REQUIRE trophic energy transfer to persist, which REQUIRES humanity to offset our destruction of natual habitat for our own purposes, both conservationist and extractionist. It's also not anti-science to point out vegan sophistry with respect to industrialized agriculture and the ecological damage that it does to all systems. Luckily, animal husbandry is concerned with the maintenance of livestock which are fed grains and hay which are regenerative and don't require mountains and mountains of pesticides which cause cancer and deplete insect biomass.

I don't care to point all of this out every time I interact with a vegan because frankly it's not my job to discuss agriculture and veganism on a philosophical and scientific level. I personally do what pleases me: I avoid vegan spaces and scroll past vegan posts and comments. Stop trying to impose ideological conformity with your minority view and let us meat-eaters exist in peace.

Animegao kigurumi my beloved 🥰

I'm surprised to have to say this but it seriously sounds like you're pushing antisemitism here. Supposing you're right about 90% of global Jewish people being Zionists; waving away 10% of all Jewish people who disagree is incredibly stupid. That's like 1,500,000 human beings. That's almost half the population of my home state.

You're not an antisemite, are you?

Yeah, fuck them

Save up instead and continue saving after you bought the car. Then you can afford a different car later.

Fuck industrialized farmers. Fuck them, no lube, with a spiked bat. They pollute our waterways with their overfertilization, use synthetic urea made in middle-eastern hellholes out of natural gas and then shipped halfway across the planet on the most polluting boats possible, suck up all of our natural water in aquifers for irrigation, destroy natural landscapes and wildlife habitats, spray glyphosate over all our food poisoning consumers with cancer and decimating insect populations, suck up tax dollars to subsidize their pointless bullshit, and fill in wetlands to grow their precious cornfields. Oh, and they use diesel tractors. I seriously think that any farmer crying about agrivoltaics should be shot in the head and have their land eminent domained.

Take your rut suppressants

Wow that sounds like a pretty powerful OH MY GOODNESS IT COSTS $600

Can't wait to see your name on the banlog, zio

People like you should be cast into hell with your devils advocate position