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[Video] Jewish Zionist in Montreal yells at a brown man that he is going to kill a lot of brown people. "I fking killed a lot of motherfkers like you... I'm going back to do more." (i.imgur.com)
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[–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I called for a trial to assess if his words are true, and yes, I would be okay with capital punishment for enthusiastic participation in genocide. Was Nuremberg a slippery slope?

You seem to be rushing not to take him at his word, to the extent that he shouldn't even be investigated for it and should just be charged with harassment, even though there's an active genocide going on and it's entirely plausible that he has murdered numerous innocent people as a participant, and he is claiming that he has.

The harassment is obvious, but it's trivial compared to what he claims to have done. What he claims to have done should be investigated. If true, he should face the consequences of those choices.

Fine if you disagree about capital punishment for crimes against humanity like mass murder and genocide, but there's nothing civilized about seeing a Nazi on the street saying he's killed many people in the camps and plans to kill more and just saying "He should really be more polite. We have rules about that."

If he's just a loudmouth, fine, but at least investigate his claims and prevent him from killing more people if his claims are true, whether it's by capital punishment or by long-term imprisonment.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't tend to take people who appear to be mentally ill and harassing people at their word, no. I call the police and allow our legal system to handle the matter. Canada is a country of laws and due process and not punishment based on vibes and crazy shouting.

    We don't ship schizophrenic people off to The Hague without doing a bit of due diligence first and as with most ridiculous claims people make whilst screaming in public, it's highly likely this person is full of shit and mentally ill so maybe The Hague is bit premature. People who actually commit these types of crimes aren't known to stand around in public shouting about them dressed like someone's crazy ass old uncle.

    Capital punishment is, in case you are not Canadian, illegal and a non-starter here. We won't even extradite to places where it's legal unless they provide a firm guarantee that capital punishment will not be imposed (see United States vs. Burns - Canadian Supreme Court - 2001)

    This video shows someone who needs to be hauled off in a cop car and likely submitted for a psych evaluation.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The due process should be an investigation of his claims.

    There is an active genocide going on, and we have participants in that genocide walking around on Canadian streets. That's a reality. What he is claiming is entirely plausible. It's entirely plausible that he's one of the IDF who has murdered children, or murdered starving civilians trying to get food. Any investigation that did not assess his claims would be utterly negligent, and if his claims are true he should face consequences and be prevented from ever doing so again.

    If established that his claims are true, I'm fine with either capital punishment or long-term imprisonment. I disagree with Canadian law on the application of capital punishment in circumstances such as crimes against humanity like genocide, but I'm fine with accepting Canada's legal position.

    What I'm not fine with is there being an ongoing genocide, participants in it being free in Canada, and anyone claiming to have participated in it not being investigated. You are leaning towards dismissing it based on your own premature psychological assessment and strawmanning against the point that his claims should be investigated as though it is just wild hysteria.

    If he was being aggressive on the street and shouting "I beat the shit out my wife all the time and I'm going to beat her again" you wouldn't just say "He seems a bit off. This guy's like a crazy old uncle. Needs a bit of a psych eval" and leave it at that. You would fully expect that it should be checked whether or not he beats his wife, and if he did there should be consequences, because the shouting in public is not the most significant concern.

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