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[–] 91 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Plug for Discount Tire. I've seen people come in with a flat on a good tire and they offer to patch it for free. Also had them work with me when I couldn't afford all four tires and was just going to get two in the front, they did some discounting and stuff and for a little more than the two tire cost gave me four. Caveat - it could be just the few stores I've been in, management can make or break any place, no matter how good the product or employees are.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 months ago

    I try to do business with mom and pop shops as much as possible. All the local mom and pop tire shops have been bought out over the years and become trash.

    I went back to DT after a 20+ year hiatus and found their service, pricing, and willingness to work with me delightful.

    For example my car uses a very specific tire and I got a flat on the side wall. They just happened to keep a set from a previous driver in near new condition to replace that one tire for labor only until the very specific tire could be brought in 3 weeks later!

    Then they discounted the original labor off the new tire purchase price.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    My only beef with discount tire is their anti-weed policy for their employees.

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  • [+] -35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Why would you want some dude stoned out of his mind changing your tyres?

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  • [–] 71 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    That's not what anti-cannabis policies are. It means that you can get fired for using cannabis when you aren't at work. It's normal to get home after work and crack open a beer. Some people want to sit down with a bowl after work instead.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    When it's time to replace I usually go with Walmart. I buy whatever tire is on rollback online, ship to atore, and they put it on. Their autocenter has the cheapest rate for putting on tires.

    Last time I paid $45 a tire and $11 for installation.

    Yes it's Walmart, but I'm broke and this is like $100 cheaper than the next option

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not judging you but If you can afford it you should go elsewhere. Walmart tires are absolute shit. I say this having worked in their tire shop and several other places. We had people coming in with defects and broken belts daily where it was a rare occurrence everywhere else I worked. They also didn't do anything to ensure the people working on cars weren't dumbasses. I had to fix A LOT of shit they broke.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I bought a set of five Nokian all-weather light truck tires on closeout at Walmart for under $300. A set of more desirable all-terrains would have run me $1k and are probably now around $1500. The tires have been great.

    Pay attention to the brand and reviews, not the store.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Been doing this for 11 years only ever had 1 tire that needed a patch. I usually ride further than the stated mileage before the tires are bald.

    However, I do drive a sub-compact car and have the whole 11 years. Lot less weight on the tires than a standard car

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I had a bad experience in Phoenix, the tires fell apart after 8 months. Otherwise though, they've always been great and very accommodating. I go to Costco now but they're the same or better imo.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Juuuunk yard tires are the best. Someone out there totaled their car and the tires that survived are sitting there waiting for you to find. The guy who has em doesnt want em. He wants the shelf for more valuable stuff.

    Happy hunting.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Junk yards in general are great. Just pick up spares of literally anything you need

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I really wish junkyards would be more of a thing here.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Where is "here"?

    If it's anywhere in Europe, you can get shit delivered from ovoko/rrr. Have used them to get parts from Latvia and Lithuania that I couldn't find in Estonia (specific color doors so I wouldn't have to paint). It's like Amazon for used car parts, minus the whole taking over the world thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    As a previously poor person, more poor people need to realize where they stand tax-wise, and that they are the beneficiaries of tax increases. But also, tax the fucking rich! The 50's had 91% tax on the highest tax bracket. That's what made the golden days that conservatives want to return to so golden.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    While I definitely agree that the wealthy should be paying more in taxes, this isn't an especially accurate take.

    1. There were way more deductions available. Basically, nobody ever paid any taxes at such a high rate.

    2. The primary reason for the post-war "golden age" that MAGA waxes nostalgia about is because almost the entire manufacturing sector of most European countries was wiped out. By comparison, the US was almost fully intact, and had a massive new base of workers trained in manufacturing. We went from a nation of farmers to a nation of city-dwelling industrialists almost overnight.

    I don't see how we could ever get back to the 50s - 60s era of growth and security again, but overhauling taxation and more union representation could probably at least wind us back a few decades.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    The wealthiest person in America in the 1950s was JP Getty.

    His worth was about $1 billion. Which would equate to $13.86 billion today.

    1. There were way more deductions available. Basically, nobody ever paid any taxes at such a high rate.

    Ok, maybe, I’d be interested in seeing a source on this, but what qualified them for those deductions? Dumping huge sums of money back into the country and the community? There was a time the wealthy built libraries and parks and voluntarily gave some back.

    1. The primary reason for the post-war "golden age" that MAGA waxes nostalgia about is because almost the entire manufacturing sector of most European countries was wiped out. By comparison, the US was almost fully intact, and had a massive new base of workers trained in manufacturing. We went from a nation of farmers to a nation of city-dwelling industrialists almost overnight.

    Not at all accurate. Yes, much manufacturing has left because it’s cheaper to off shore it to developing nations, but America isn’t less prosperous now. That prosperity has just been consolidated to the top 1% more and more.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Ok, maybe, I’d be interested in seeing a source on this

    It's really easy to find if you actually wanted to verify, rather than just disingenuously cast doubt. Planet Money has done podcasts episodes on it.

    Not at all accurate

    Entirely accurate. We were the manufacturing center for much of the world until Europe was able to build back, which was badly hampered by foolish austerity measures. This is literally the reason why America had such a phenomenal post-war boom and an explosion of the middle class.

    but America isn’t less prosperous now. That prosperity has just been consolidated to the top 1%

    Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with the loss of manufacturing jobs, disappearing union representation, and subsequent devaluation of labor?

    You're identifying symptoms, not causes. Write less and read more.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Why is it not surprising a shill for the wealthy gets combative and resorts to insults?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You are indeed looking at symptoms and not the patterns that cause them. You can believe billionaires are a curse that shouldn't exist and still look at the situation rationally. You dont have to pick one.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Motherfucker my checking account wears unevenly

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    In New Zealand, it is legally required that you replace the set if you are replacing one. This is so that you always have two matching sets. For example, if the tread is too low on the rear left, you have to get both rear tyres replaced if you want to be able to pass the next warrant.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    What if the old tires are 8 and you just want to replace 1 new that's usually 10? Seems silly because the only damage they can do is with a differential, lsd or xfer case and that would have to be 4/32 or more difference with extended use.

    In the US, if you have a puncture on the edge you're not allowed to repair it and the legal limit is 2. 4/32 is the recommended tire size difference for awd or on the drive axles to change tires and they have to be the same brand, but not legally required.

    2/32 is rediculous for the legal limit though, should be 4.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This sounds sensible.

    Do they have a system of keeping the old tires so if you have a flat and the remaining tire is 50% worn, you can buy a matching tire from someone else who replaced both?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    Meanwhile, at my house:

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    All that replacing is a little tiring

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    My mom lives in a retirement community, and some people have some real money. She was at the pool, and one couple was saying they needed to buy a new car because they had a flat tire, and they were told they needed all four. They didn't know how to buy 4 tires, so they decided to buy a new car instead.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I had a manager who told me that he and his wife both bought new cars every year. He said this while lecturing me for requesting time to take my car to the shop.

    When I said I couldn't afford a new car, his response was that he and his wife saved so much in repair bills, they couldn't afford not to.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, that's kinda true?

    If you drive sub 1000€ shit boxes its literally cheaper to sell them to export once the TÜV runs out than to get them into an acceptable state

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Where I live, I don't think there are any cars sold new for a price that low. I don't think we have that kind of export market, either.

    Where are your cars exported to that people are willing to pay so much for a car that needs so much work?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    I've always managed to save money doing repairs myself...

    Since he does this with two cars, you can probably find a good deal on a used car and spend less in 10 years, on both the car and repairs, than this guy loses in 1.

    Seems that annual repair/maintenance costs on a car range between $400-$1200, over 10 years, that's $4000-$12000.

    Looks like a new car loses about 12.5-20% value in the first year. So for two $35k cars, for him and his wife, dude loses ~$8800-$14000 in one year. Assuming he probably trades it in, I'd bet its on the higher end of that range. And since the average cost of a new car is $48k, he probably loses more (an additional $3200-$5200 per year). Say he does this for 10 years, that's $88,000-$140,000 (+$32,000-$52,000) he wastes. Nobody spends anywhere near that over the lifetime of a car (average being ~16 years) in repairs. Even if he somehow manages to do much better than these estimates, dude is legit an idiot.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Alternate take: he could be a really shrewd buyer and good at selling privately.

    Probably not, but it's possible. I knew a guy whose hobby was entirely cars. Shopping for them, going through financing details, and sometimes buying them. He'd bolt on some mods and seemed to have a knack for finding buyers. He'd sometimes sell for more than the total amount he'd put into the vehicle.

    He had almost no real understanding of cars. At most, he could do an oil change and slap on a K&N filter. But goddamn did that guy ever understand how to manipulate financing to his advantage.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Japan has a class of light car (you can get them to go 140 kph/85 mph but the engine doesn't appreciate it) and everything about them is cheap. A set of 4 tires (not the rims) is ~¥18000 (currently about $110 USD or $150 before the yen started tanking).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Fortunately we made this illegal in the US and we're working on banning E-bikes under the guise of protecting kids.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    Depending on context that could be good advice. However tires are especially insanely expensive now so I get not taking that advice even if you can technically afford it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Are they? I haven't checked recently, and winter is coming. I need snow tires.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Yeah. I mean I remember buying tires for like $100 each. I think that was closer to $160 last time I bought tires (and these are small car tires, cheaper than many others. I've heard truck tires can be like $250 each)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I just bought a set of new tires for $115 each (including installation). But that involved shopping around and not using the manufacturer recommended tires. The dealership wanted around $300 per tire.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    For an all time AWD system like what Subaru offers, you will need to do this if the replacement tire is worn, or shave it to match.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Subarus are actually one of the worst-case vehicles for this. I really don't understand the love for those things.

    My partner has one and with the 'need to replace every tire if you replace one' thing, ads showing up in the infotainment center, the battery dying if the key fob is stored too close to the car (real stuff, it's legit written in the manual not to store the key near the car because of this, ask me how we know), she's so fed up with it.

    Edit: To clarify the 'one of the worst case', other AWD/4WD vehicles have higher tolerances for size mismatch than Subarus. Like, I think literally every other major manufacturer is better about this.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Yup, having only ever driven Subarus, this is what I have always been told. The ever-so-slightly different diameter of a worn VS new tire can cost you way more money than a three additional tires in the long run.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You just need to replace 2, not all 4.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Depends on the AWD system. If there's a center diff or a clutch in the center, the speed differences where the front axle and the rear axle meet can cause excessive wear and heat. Subarus are the most common vehicle for this, but some high end German stuff I know can have issues as well. But generally economy cars and midrange cars disconnect the extra axle or have a loose coupling to it, so only two tires replaced are fine.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Every certified Subaru mechanic and mechanics working directly for Subaru have always said I only needed two when one tire needed complete replacement for my Forester.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is something I would justify putting on a credit card. If all four tires are badly worn it can become both a safety issue as well as an increasingly more expensive issue later on.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    AWD car tax

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My friend buys a new helmet every time his visor gets scratched. On the plus side, I get his old helmet.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I get mine plugged and move on.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah get a load of Mr Fancy Pants buying a new tire!

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  • Most of the time it's like a screw or a nail piercing the tire. That can be easily fixed for cheap at a local garage.

    If you're broke and can't afford new tires, be careful if you buy used ones.

    I bought a used set of summer tires and they were being kept under a backyard balcony and had been there for several years. The rubber turned to plastic. Even though the tires had no wear on them, I couldn't used them because they hadn't been stored properly.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    If it’s a truck, you can often get stock truck tires on FBM with almost no miles on them, if you live in a pickup truck heavy area. Often, owners will buy bigger tires to replace those that came with their new truck.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    I mean if it’s really bad it’s better to cough up $500 now than replace your transmission in a couple months. Non drive tires, who cares, just don’t rotate it to the drive tires.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I’m looking at $1,200 :(. That’s what I get for getting a limited car with “upgraded” wheels. Gave me a weird tire size

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I had a friend who drove a little fiat panda. He once bought the cheapest weirdly branded tires for it and it cost him 16 dollars per tire. Ge was a mechanic so he probably got them cheaper. Still funny that by bicycle tires are way more expensive

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Sometimes you can get a steel rim and tire combo for cheaper than just those rubber on the super low profiles.

    Common thing in Canada for the winter tires as the rims are easily damaged from a skid on ice against a curb.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Near me, one used tire is like $35 and will last me the better part of a year, so decent trade off.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    This is how it feels talking to my sister and brother-in-law.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    Once I was discussing with a friend, and he was telling me when he visited some local sight in Indonesia (where he was working at that time) he couldn't find his way back because there we no bus after a certain time of day, so he had to call a taxi to get back to his appartment and was annoyed that no information was easily available

    I kept thinking that I could NEVER get into this kind of situation, I'm not rich enough to afford this kind of lightheaded mistake 'oh oh guess I gotta pay a taxi', if I'm traveling you bet your ass I'm going to plan every single commute

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    And who are these billionaire friends of yours that didn’t offer to replace all your tires for you?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I remember when I was a kid and my parents would drag me to Sears to fix the car and tires were only $25 each, so only $100 to replace all 4 with another $25 for the installation fees if you had them replace the tires for you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (9 children)

    Why would you do that anyway if the tires are otherwise still in good condition ? Appart from throwing money out the window, it is just so wasteful...

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    having differently worn tires on the same axle is dangerous

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    How dangerous can it be? I am going to research.

    This article mostly agrees, except if it is less than 30 percent worn, you can just replace one. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tires/should-you-always-replace-car-tires-in-pairs-a1061792056/

    Why put the new tires on the rear axle though? I thought the front was more important for braking and front wheel drive, which i have.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Why not just... get the tire patched? No need to change the whole wheel just because you drove over a nail. Shouldn't cost more than $15 anyway.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can’t patch all damage. Presumably if they’re broke they already explored the largely free option.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    And you don't have to use always use the most expensive option. Presumably, the rich friend didn't think of the cheaper options.

    After all, the post only explores the friends pov (or the OOPs opinion of that friends pov), and not the OOPs.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    i drove with a rope patch for about a year before i replaced all the tires due to age. it's not fun. it always leaks air but how much depends on the weather, humidity, pressure, how long you drove last time... it's basically a gamble whether you get where you're going.

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