Pretty sure that the Rolling Stones has a whole song about where this "beef" is coming from.

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[–] 87 points 2 months ago (13 children)

The Tyson beef plant that just got shutdown in the Midwest is going to fuck Republicans...

Not because of the 2-3k workers, not because of the increased price consumers pay.

But all the livestock owners who suddenly have nowhere near to slaughter cattle at scale are fucked. Couple that with flooding the market with Argentinian beef, and a lot of Republican voters are going to stay home for midterms.

They might not admit to themselves they want Republicans to lose majorities, and they'll likely spend the next two years bitching about Dems. But a lot of them just won't find the time to vote when they're getting fucked this blatantly

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  • [–] 52 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Tyson beef plant that just got shutdown

    That is primarily a consequence of immigration crackdowns. Beef inflation up 9% while cattle is down 9%+

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    this is an insight I hadn't considered.

    makes intuitive sense but do you have any links or references so people can learn more?

    I thought drought was a major factor in beef supply drop but it's probably multiple things

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    Meat packing is heavily biased towards foreign born workers. The companies have complained about high labour costs.

    Cattle prices are from futures market charts. The typical market price effects from narratives of "high beef demand" and "Cattle shortages" would be higher cattle prices.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The US beef supply is squeezed because some big droughts from a couple of years ago forced ranchers to sell off a lot of their herds.

    Now, they don't have the herds to supply the demand, and you can't just magick more cows into existence. Once the problem exists, it takes a bunch of time to grow calves into cows.

    The problem is exacerbated by a dynamic where the current high prices encourage ranchers to sell their cattle instead of keeping them around to grow the herd.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    And if it came from Argentina like everyone is suspecting, it might be contaminated. It's not like he'd care if it was.

    China rejects Argentine beef due to chloramphenicol: investigation and internal consumption crisis

    On March 19, the General Administration of Customs of China suspended a shipment of 22 tons of beef from the slaughterhouse ArreBeef in Pérez Millán (Buenos Aires), after detecting the presence of chloramphenicol, an antibiotic banned in Argentine livestock production since 1995 due to its risks to human health.

    The measure raised concerns in the agro-export chain and immediately activated diplomatic and technical channels between both countries.

    https://noticiasambientales.com/animals/china-rejects-argentine-beef-due-to-chloramphenicol-investigation-and-internal-consumption-crisis/#google_vignette

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Nice investigative work - this is the first I've heard about the contamination. It looks like China caught the issue back in March, and its highly likely more of the supply chain was compromised. This would make it subject to further Chinese boycotts, endangering the Argentian economy and screwing Milei because it makes things bumpy for Peter Thiel in his new home.

    This is why Trump is both helping Milei and refusing to say where the beef is from.

    Btw, these are the side effects of chloramphenicol:

    Serious and fatal blood dyscrasias (aplastic anemia, hypoplastic anemia, thrombocytopenia, and granulocytopenia) are known to occur after the administration of chloramphenicol.

    There have been reports of aplastic anemia attributed to chloramphenicol which later terminated in leukemia.

    Blood dyscrasias have occurred after both short-term and prolonged therapy with this drug.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They might not admit to themselves they want Republicans to lose majorities, and they’ll likely spend the next two years bitching about Dems. But a lot of them just won’t find the time to vote when they’re getting fucked this blatantly

    It's so weird to see this identity crisis in action.

    The conservatives are actively screwing them over in every possible way, but they cannot imagine voting for a Democrat. You know, because, well, reasons. The dems are city folk. The dems are for loud-mouthed blue-haired women with nose rings. The dems are gonna take their guns and their gigantic truck (and their manhood). Because dems are for "gender ideology". Etc.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    I read an article today that there was tons of tainted beef that China turned down back in the spring. I forget which country has it. There is speculation that the US has bought it after that country called US to make deal. I will see if I can find the article.

    Edit here is an article about it.

    https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/178274/20260825/trump-opens-u-s-to-300-000-tons-of-foreign-beef-as-china-rejects-22-ton-argentine-shipment-over-banned-antibiotic.htm

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    No surprise that it's Argentina, whose president is friends with Trump.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    The president is rotting in an American jail last I checked.

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    [–] 43 points 2 months ago* (18 children)

    I'm stocking up on cat food before this shit ends up killing all of our pets.

    It's primarily going to be put in animal food and processed foods.

    Frozen pizzas. Tv dinners. Canned soups.

    Sold to restaurants from their bulk suppliers. Especially fast food places.

    Packaged frozen hamburger patties at grocery stores.

    Any type of frozen meals with beef.

    The big rolls of frozen hamburger.

    It's going to be hard to avoid it but not impossible.

    Avoid any beef you can't determine where it came from.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I'd just become vegetarian if the veggies weren't also toxic. Republicans really have turned this place into a shit hole

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Well, except for things like lettuce and things like garnish, but...yeah.

    I'm so glad I'm a vegetarian when it comes to things like tainted meat, but plenty of vegetarian things can get tainted too, a common one being lettuce.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    I’m stocking up on cat food before this shit ends up killing all of our pets.

    you would not believe the stuff they put in cat food.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah I know already it's bad. But at least this problem I can avoid by buying it before it gets in it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    In some countries, they feed cats real food, not "cat food". I lost a cat to intestinal inflammation because I thought I was feeding him properly.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    I try feeding my cats boiled meat sometimes. If I cut off the fat or something from something I'm cooking for me, I will dice it up and boil it.

    Neither of my cats will eat boiled meat with the exception of my newer cat who was a stray. But even he will only eat canned tuna.

    Not turkey. Not ham. Not beef. No chicken.

    No lunch meat.

    Not even bacon!

    I don't get why they don't like the best food for them.
    I can't give them tuna all the time because of the mercury.

    My older cat likes marshmallows. Weird but it is bone meal based.

    The stray will eat some wet food so he gets some every day. But my older cat won't touch the stuff.

    🤷

    I offer to them and then put outside for a local oppossom when they decline.

    I don't like to waste animal products so someone gets it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Might be worth trying. I'll look into what kinds are safe. I honestly never thought to try that. 👍

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Liver, kidneys, heart. Lungs are probably fine too. The thing about organ meat is that it contains a lot of nutrients that aren't necessarily in muscle meat.

    Try feeding them raw meat too, instead of boiling it first. That might be what's causing them to reject it.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    So don't eat beef. Or jalapeños. Or lettuce. Or granola. Or blueberries.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    Just don't eat. It's American roulette. The number of recent recalls due to broken glass contamination in everything from popsicles to bread has also risen, but I can understand not being up to speed when the entire food supply is slowly becoming hazardous to your health.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    impossible, Driscolls has a monopoly in grocery stores. Amazing since Driscoll doesn't grow a single berry.

    Driscolls is a genetic store house, they contract with farms to make berries year-around. It also gives them plausible deniability on pesticides used in fruits, because legally, they don't grow the berries.

    We have to go back to eating local berries in season.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The hell happened to granola?

    Though, I'm also realizing I don't really know what granola is... Is it its own plant?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    My friend had a great theory that it's the horses being put to slaughter.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Can we test the beef to determine what animal it came from?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Pretty easy to test for that using DNA testing.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Or just eating it. Taste is different.

    Source: in my area we eat horses. A lot.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Genuine question, what is the taste profile of horse meat?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Ok, so one thing I'm terrible at is describing the taste of food, so I'll try my best: it has more flavour than beef, but it's delicate flavour and doesn't taste gamey. It has a shitload of iron. In my experience the taste changes a lot depending on the cut, more than beef, but to be honest, the vast majority of the time I eat horse meat, it's in the form of raw, ground meat.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Having never eaten horse myself, as I've never had the opportunity, I always expected it would taste similar to lamb, venison, goat, etc. Am I thinking correctly, or way off?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Nope, it's much closer to beef than game or sheep, it's rich in iron and has a somewhat sweet flavour, more delicate than beef while actually being more tasty, if that makes any sense.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    Wild horses slaughtered = mystery beef.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    WILD HORSES, WILD HORSES COULDNT TAKE ME AWAY...

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If it wasn't contaminated horse assholes they would have said it wasn't contaminated horse assholes.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe skip beef for a while unless you know the origin.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If you can get as much meat as you're able to from a local butcher.

    Befriend the people at that butcher shop. Have actual conversations with them, ask their advice on things, even if you don't think you need it.

    The guy that likes you isn't going to sell you questionable meat. If he's any good he's not even buying questionable meat. You might even get discount locally sourced eggs there too.

    It occurs to me that some venture capital firms have tried to corporatize and boutiquify butcher shops with expensive, "artisanal" offerings.

    Your local butcher probably isn't wasting money on billboard and TV spots. Parking lot will be full every Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. Case will be full and somebody will be actively cutting something up in the back, which will almost certainly be mostly visible.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    We've got a butcher's shop in my country that doubles as a restaurant and all the meat comes from their own farm not too far from the city. Best meat I've had.

    The US has like 300x more population and a huge thing for beef in particular. Bound to have tons of places like that if you know where to look, or so I'd hope.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I also have a quality butcher in ly neighborhood. He wins awards with his sausages, and has his own animals in fields with various farmers he knows.

    Most people just get the cheapest meat at the supermarket, though.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    Very much depends on where you live. There's my favorite one, the one I go to for a specific sausage, and two corporate nonsense ones within about 10 minutes of my house.

    Where my in-laws live, a city comparable in size to where I live, there are none.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Can't be worse than not eating meat apparently

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm gonna be real, the majority of the US will never give up eating meat. It's engrained in the culture and the way people live every day. It would be like asking people to give up couches and only ever use chairs.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Red meat industry is several times worse for the environment, it's the most pollution. But really you have the food waste as the lowest hanging branch, and newer techniques like cold pasteurization with radiation can be done on raw meat and produce without heating it. Reducing food waste by 10 to 20 percent is entirely doable.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    You know, the last couple of years has had me setting up solar power, buying an EV, and eating almost no animal products except for eggs from my spoiled chickens.

    I think trimp is a leftist plant being used to trick everyone into being more environmentally friendly. At least thats what I like to point out to conservatives.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Some people would apparently be dragged in front of a firing squad than learn to like tofu, seitan, beans and other nutritious sources of plant-based protein.

    As a vegan, I’m finding I enjoy food way more than I did as a carnist. It’s an adventure.

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    Cows are forcibly brought into this world to suffer as much for dairy farming as they are for meat production.

    https://www.earthsave.ca/blog/dairy-or-beef/

    https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch

    And like beef production, the environmental impacts of the dairy industry are significant, although not quite as bad as beef. But totally unnecessary for human beings to consume.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I make my own cheese, using my own milk. Where is your vegan God now?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What animals are you talking about? I consent to using my own milk to produce cheese.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You know what? I missed that you’re making cheese from your own breast milk.

    I read that as, “I make my own cheese (from cows milk).”

    Whether you were trolling or not carry on! My brain didn’t register it because it’s not a sentence I often see.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    China wouldn't take this tainted beef so ofc the shithead does. Probably pat himself on the back for thinking about the little guy...

    Fucking moron. What's going to be next that we can't eat? Fruit? Potatoes? Bread???

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    People coming up with all those crazy theories while the most likely explanation is that that there is no beef. It's not the first time Trump promised something without ever planning on delivering it.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago

    If you're not already watching this guy, I recommend you start. He's pretty good. He says there's no way Argentina can produce and export 300k tons of beef in 3 months and it almost certainly comes from Brazil. He also explains why.

    https://youtu.be/FB2scx_UmfI

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    grade F general purpose meat

    now with more horse parts

    (only used non diseased parts of diseased animals)

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Mystery beef.

    Wild horses rounded up and disappeared.

    He's just running the old TESCO special, ain't he?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Just read "Tender is the Flesh" . If they start advertising it as special meat, know its people

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