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[–] 252 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (43 children)

And then El-Sayed asked Watters if he was circumcised, LMAO

Asking one of the most insecure men on tv about his dick

BOSS MOVE

Edit: sorry, here’s the link

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/abdul-el-sayed-jesse-watters-circumcised-b3038567.html

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  • [–] 73 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Watters is so grating in his speech, can't watch it, but it's impressive to see someone put up with him for a half hour

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  • [–] 63 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Things went off the rails when Watters asked the progressive if he supports gender-affirming surgery for those under 18 years old.

    “Sex change for minors. Do you support that?” Watters asked El-Sayed, to which the former public health official said, “I just think the government shouldn't tell you what kind of healthcare you should have.”

    “So you think it's okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?” Watters asked.

    El-Sayed retorted: “Do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?”

    The shocked Fox News host said, “Yeah, but I mean that’s a personal question, doctor.”

    Watters then said circumcision is “different than castration,” but El-Sayed argued, “I’m just saying that yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid’s ding-a-ling.”

    Watters called El-Sayed’s comment “wacky,” adding, “Abdul, Michigan’s not going for that. That is sick stuff.”

    Holy shit what an inane hypocrite. I swear conservatives are going to give me an aneurysm

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    If he had any foreskin it was burnt! (I too lament a lack of foreskin, so whatever)

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I find it darkly humorous that ribbed condoms are meant to simulate a foreskin. Yes, our culture removes the foreskin, but they'll sell you a fake one to replace it!

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  • [–] 98 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in Michigan, has raised eyebrows after asking Fox News’ Jesse Watters if he is circumcised during a combative prime-time interview.

    Man fuck right off, that wasn't at all a weird question to ask in response to a fucking weird obsession Jesse has with children's "dingilings"

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  • [–] 82 points 2 months ago

    Jesse Watters is the one who brought it up, after all.

    El-Sayed (a medical doctor, by the way) only responded in kind, and Watters - having brought it up as some kind of battle mark, some line that should never be crossed - immediately reversed course at brakeneck speed and attempted to dismiss it as if it were nothing, framing El-Sayed as an absurdist for even mentioning the subject that Watters himself raised in feigned outrage, despite El-Sayed’s repeated warnings that Watters would regret addressing the subject

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If you ever believed that the manipulation stream media was on the right side of history. Then this whole interview plus the one Welker did with Angie Nixon should tell you that they never were.

    These companies act like assholes to Progressives and DSA while throwing cotton candy at Pedophiles and Rapists.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    ....and this article agrees with you. Wh....why are you telling them to fuck off........?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    On the surface the article comes off as rather neutral in tone but the headline, the line about "raising eyebrows", and really just the existence of this article at all is so standard for "left" leaning news corporations. Mamdani's El-Sayed's response didn't "raise eyebrows" from anyone except the fox viewers who would have already been fired up before the camera even started rolling and all this article is doing is validating them.

    It's always the same thing, politicians on the right are allowed to say or do anything they want freely without any scrutiny and those who are left of centre are held under a microscope.

    As a (Godwin's Law proving) example: imagine if what Mamdani El-Sayed had said was "I actually think Hitler was a bad person" and then we got articles about that statement raising eyebrows. It wouldn't be false but the only people it'd be referring to would be Nazis and why the fuck would you validate or acknowledge their opinions?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Transcript from the article:

    “Sex change for minors. Do you support that?” Watters asked El-Sayed, to which the former public health official said, “I just think the government shouldn't tell you what kind of healthcare you should have.”

    “So you think it's okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?” Watters asked.

    Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan

    Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan (Jesse Watters Primetime)

    El-Sayed retorted: “Do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?”

    The shocked Fox News host said, “Yeah, but I mean that’s a personal question, doctor.”

    Watters then said circumcision is “different than castration,” but El-Sayed argued, “I’m just saying that yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid’s ding-a-ling.”

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    I think something is lost in converting it to text. Something of the essence of the moment really… You have to see it and hear it.

    But, here, we cans ee something important about both Watters and El-Sayed-- Watters fancies myself some newer, better Tucker Carlson, but isn't smart enough to realize that he has Carleson's same weaknesses and is not nearly as clever nor adroit as Carleson-- something El-Sayed is both clever and adroit enough o take advantage of in this moment, and does, both warning Watters of beforehand before baiting a trap and drawing Watters witlessly into it.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Not being an American, I tend to have very little experience of Fox News, and that's how I like it.

    But how do they keep replacing one shithouse with another?

    Bill O'Reilly gave way to Glen Beck gave way to Fucker Carlson gave to whoever this barely-sentient pile of dog shit is. Is there a training school for ridiculous, puffed up white boys who make that stupid "I'm just asking questions" face that I'd never tire of hitting with a bat?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Is there a link with the correct video?

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  • [–] 69 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Love this guy. El-Sayed and Mamdani are really kicking ass! They are exactly what I want for my state (and the whole gd country too, but you know as well as I do that red states are hopeless and too brainwashed to ever do better).

    Dr. El-Sayed was born in the US. Just saying. He is very qualified to run for president--- though the bar is so low right now it's a tripping hazard in hell...

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They're focusing on the message.

    Kamala was doing the right thing by laughing in their faces.

    But we have to take it to the next step. Piss them off. Tell them to stop wasting everyone's time about which bathroom to use when people are dying because they're afraid of going to the hospital.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Spot on. Journalism today is a joke. They're owned by billionaires and mostly care about clicks and ad revenue, so they milk every stupid trend rather than go for the topics that really matter.

    Politicians get too easily distracted. You don't have to answer every bullshit question or take a position on every stupid trend topic. If a journalist doesn't do his job properly, tell them off, or even address the viewers and their actual real-life struggles directly.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Thats the correct response.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I watched the entire thing.

    I can't stress enough how Sayed stayed calm and cool during the whole thing, while the clown on the left there was constantly trying to talk over him (as is the game plan for all those swamp creatures).

    I couldn't sit there and be as patient and calm as Sayed, that's for damn sure. It's about time we started taking a no nonsense stand, and I am here for it. :-)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I've only watched a part but i laughed at the the part of: "Have you followed then news recently, it's pretty big." It's only big because they misuse their platform to make it big. When you look at the numbers of actual people affected, well let's just say the amount of measles death in certain states is higher.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    I mean it's their whole effective schtick after all because Americans are not intelligent. Loud and repeated is the truth to so many Americans when they have little to no critical thinking skills. Whoever is the loudest, the fastest, the most obnoxious is the victor of the debate when it comes to the vast majority of the American electorate.

    it's sad but it works and it make tons of money promoting this type of discourse instead of actual boring, proper debate and discussion.

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  • [–] 93 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah. That's FOX News. They tell their viewers what to think, and the viewers obey.

    They have a very specific propaganda program. It draws people in with fear, outrage and bigotry...

    Then it invites them to divest of all other information sources (except maybe approved ones like OANN or WSJ) the way that an abusive spouse gets their partner to disconnect from all other social relationships.

    And then it pumps them with MAGA ideology. The culture war stuff.

    It's literal mind control, but it's like a reverse hack (trying a common password on multiple accounts), in that it hits a lot of people and sucks in those who bite. Usually white uneducated men.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I was on a 2.5 hour flight recently, and a guy a couple of rows up was watching Fox News. It just jumped from: Trans, Immigrants, Socialism, over and over and over the entire flight. It made me realize how fitting the term 'News Story' really is!

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Under penalty of perjury, FOX News lawyers assure the court it is absolutely not a news channel but entertainment. Therefore should not be subject to news media regulations. During the 2020 election recount when they were lying about the integrity of Dominion Voting Systems election machines, the lawyers made it super clear now not news FOX is.

    So FOX is not only a propaganda machine, but is deceptive at its core.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    That's repetition if just 24 hour news channels. CNN is similar they just harp on a different set of issues.

    I'm mildly curious how much longer they can keep it up as they slowly become less and less relevant. Few under 40 subscribe to cable television and instead consume social media influencers who are both myriad and cheaper to influence.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    They have a very specific propaganda program. It draws people in with fear, outrage and bigotry...

    It's the same one that's been around since the 1920's, they've all been cribbing from the same guy for over a hundred years.

    The German jurist and political philosopher Carl Schmitt wrote about the inherent vulnerability of democracy in his book The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy in 1923. He basically wrote the playbook that every fascist still utilizes today.

    Writing "Every actual democracy rests on the principle that not only are equals equal, but unequals will not be treated equally." Basically, you can tear apart any democracy by framing diversity and minority opinions as existential threats to the political community, by exploiting this you can lay the groundwork for majoritarian tyranny and state-sponsored exclusion.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Hey Fox News, it's bread and circus. If you're only doing circus and people get hungry you're still going to be in trouble. Groceries matter.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's by intention. I noticed that right wingers don't really talk about the economic equality but instead focus on culture wars.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's why they came up with the culture wars in the first place.

    It's cheaper than fixing a real problem, and much easier to sell.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    You can literally have TWO right-wing parties entirely in agreement with right-wing policies on those things which have the most impact in the lives of pretty much everybody out there, which play-act politics with culture wars with one of them claiming to be "leftwing" because they're supposedly pro-equality in moral terms (but never, ever, EVER socially or economically)

    If you're American (and nowadays, also from most countries in Europe), this description probably sounds very familiar ...

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Standard acceptable answer:

    "think about this last week. How many times did you personally feel like things were too expensive? How many times did a cis woman you personally know lose to a trans woman in sports?"

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    How many times did you personally feel like things were too expensive?

    Even this is a weak framing.

    "How many times did you personally feel like your are being overcharged for groceries, utilities, or rents?" puts the blame where is belongs.

    Stuff isn't just "more expensive" by some mystifying method. People who own shit are raising prices on you. And these same people are paying you less for your work.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    "I can't afford to live."

    "Does that lady have a PENIS?!"

    "Um…"

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    "Um... I don't know but I should find out! They could be trying to invade girls bathrooms! I'm going to spend all my money to support this obvious life threatening situation!"

    "Lettuce now gives you diarrhea!"

    What else is on? "Police called on gay men holding hands!"

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately there are plenty of idiots with propaganda brain willing to take the traitors at Fox seriously.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago

    “How am i supposed to take this seriously” has become my default mood whenever i have to interact with society of late.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago

    It's absolutely the right move to not even play that game. Don't let them use that weapon to distract from the issues.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Cant talk about things that actually matter, because trump and republicans are directly responsible for that.

    So we have to inflame idiots by talking about stupid bullshit that no one cared about until they poured gasoline on it to make it a wedge issue in desperate attempt to salvage votes from the mess they've personally created.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Sorry to reply to my own post..

    but everything from the right (even back before the party flip, because it doesnt matter what the label was, they were still the same assholes) is nothing but culture war shit.

    Segregation was a culture war. A culture war that they ultimately loss, and while its terrifying ramifications are far from over even today, they did admit defeat on it.. Which is why leaders held secret meetings, of which there are recordings of, to figure out what the next hateful wedge issue would be.. and they came upon abortion.. and even they struggled with deciding on abortion, because literally no one gave a flat fuck about abortion outside the catholics, and they were mocked for caring about abortion.

    But they decided Abortion was their best bet for the continuing culture war bullshit, so they went whole hog on it, and within a year ministers and priests and politicians and the whole propaganda machine churned into action and suddenly gave a fuck about abortion and declared it the great evil of our time

    and that went on for 50+ years, until they started losing the battle on Abortion.. and just like they did when they lost the battle on segregation, they had to come up with a new cultural wedge issue, because they cant argue on actual politics and records because their politics are as awful as their goddamn records.. And what did they land on? Trans people. Who are the new desegregation, the new abortion. And just like every time previous, they want to inflame hate to trick gullible idiots into voting for them out of fear.

    and trans people existing is such a weak fucking wedge issue, that they are trying to go back to segregations racist arguments, with trying to be oOoOoOo big spooky about black people existing, or spreading blatant lies about them eating all the dogs and birds, or that the brown people are here to rape our women and take our jobs, and all the other tired tropey bullshit.

    Fear fear fear FEAR FEAR. Thats all it boils down to. Trying to convince sheltered idiots to fear what they havent experienced. to fear who they don't know. to fear everything that is unknown.

    Beacuse as long as people are drowning in adrenaline fueled fear, they'll never stop to look around them and realize its all fucking bullshit and admit they've been duped and lied too.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    MAGA thinks they smell blood in the water on the trans issue, so that's their chosen wedge issue for the foreseeable future. I'm the past it was abortion, flag burning, kneeling, gay adoption, gay marriage, gay gayness, etc.

    The proper answer to any trans nonsense is: "I am not a doctor, and I won't presume to interfere with the medical decisions between any patient and their doctor, on any subject. I have absolutely no opinions on this subject, and do not consider it an appropriate subject for a political discussion. It is an appalling and indefensible political strategy to use any medical issue as a political talking point, so I'm not interested in your opinion either."

    That works for ANY medical issue, including abortion.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    that is their M.O. - to distract.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    We need to zealously stomp on culture war distractions whenever we see them. Remind people no war but the class war.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It doesn't even make sense within the Republicans own claimed worldview. Shouldn't governing of sports programs be left to those programs, if we believe in small government? But they want to make it federal legislation. Make it make sense.

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