Imgur blocks access to most VPN IP addresses so any posts using the host will result in many users being unable to see the content. Sometimes only remote viewing is affected but is also often blocked when trying to open in new tab and view at the parent site.

Consider uploading to the fediverse or using a privacy-respecting hosting service like postimages.

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[–] 166 points 2 months ago (1 child)

It's true and I won't turn off my vpn for companies that do this crap.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    Shit even without a VPN, it might not work unless you make damn sure to link the correct direct image link and not the imgur container link. This has been an issue with imgur on other social media for years now.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Could you please specify how to tell them apart?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    You get the image URL by right-clicking on the image and selecting ‘copy image link’ or whatever it is in your browser. It looks like ‘i.imgur.com/33blahbleh.jpg’, whereas the page URL is ‘imgur.com/gallery/cat-making-pizza-33blahbleh’.

    If you use the app, I doubt it that they give you the direct image URL anywhere.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    It's by design, to incite people to spend time on the imgur website/app with ads instead of just using for image hosting. It used to be a nerd-friendly image hosting for redditors at the beginning, but about 3 years ago they decided it's time to try to look more respectful to make some more money out of it. They banned NSFW (and probably whatever else their investors/advertisers/payment processors don't want to see) and automatically deleting images uploaded anonymously and not accessed enough. Interestingly, similar timing as the Reddit API debacle which created a big wave of new comers to Lemmy, including myself.
    They are not a reliable image hosting service anymore, by design. https://help.imgur.com/hc/en-us/articles/26479362527771-Imgur-Terms-of-Service-Update

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I remember they banned NSFW everywhere but Reddit. They still show NSFW through Reddit, or at least used to.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Initially, it was made by a redditor to make Reddit image posting easier when Reddit was text hosting only. So anything allowed on Reddit was allowed there.
    Then they added their own optional public gallery on imgur directly, with public comments. They didn't allow NSFW there.
    3 years ago they decided they didn't want to be an image hoster anymore and focus on their gallery, which coincidentally also allows showing more ads. So they have been cutting anything that does not fit there anymore, nsfw, anonymous hosting and low view images etc.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    It's funny really... what was the quote? You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.

    Imgur was started back in the day to provide a no-bullshit image host, because all the others were too corporate / too monetized / too much bullshit/enshittification. So MrGrim started Imgur to fix that.

    Then MrGrim took a bunch of VC money, and they eventually sold out, and now the result is the sad shell of what it once was today.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yeah it was started as a host for Reddit because everything else sucked. And they did stuff nobody'd have considered, like you could get a full gallery of NSFW content, and the embed link would give you a straight JPG without any ads or frames or anything. Sure it had its own community but that stayed out of the way.

    Now that's the main focus.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm in the UK. I can only see imgur when I do use a VPN.

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  • [–] 120 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    You don't see imgur because you use a VPN.

    I don't see imgur because I won't enable their Javascript.

    We are not the same.

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    [–] 30 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Also, anyone in the UK not using a VPN won't be able to see them, since imgur chose to block the UK rather than adhere to age verification laws.

    Whatever one thinks about that legislation, other countries (including the whole of the EU and Australia) are likely to do the same and it seems likely imgur will become a US-only resource..

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I have to use a VPN to see imgur pics because the UK government is run by wankers 😭 And I don't even live in the UK proper, I'm in N. Ireland, but I'm subject to those bullshit laws with zero recourse.

    Did I just become an IRA man? 👀

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I honestly don't get why folks use external image providers. Lemmy is perfectly capable of providing post images, just attach it and there you go. Or is it about saving free space on a server?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I also was of the assumption that imgur has turned to dogshit? Only read it in a Reddit comment before moving here, though.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    It depends what they liked about Imgur in the first place, in the first couple of years, it really was a wild West platform that would host anything. Then it sort of became a social network, with one thing being the mods being really open to user suggestions and an active part of the community. The "community" was literally just the comments under images on the public feed. It was at its strongest around 2015 when a secret santa was organised completely adhoc under an image post, then turned into a formal thing. People would post images of something they were working on, accompanied by long personal stories and these would become some sort of "canon" and people would post response meme, and highlight reels of what had been shared in the last month. And then ads came. A couple of the mods left. The filters became a little more automatic, a little more prone to flagging stuff that was fine. There's still community stuff there, I just feel it's not as inspired as it once was. Everything that happened with Reddit going public didn't help.

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    Used Imgur for decades? But never browsed it. That seems weird.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    No I've never bowsed imgur but I made the mistake of uploading a photo of my wife holding a chicken so I could post it to a back yard chicken forum, and the comments were enough to ensure I never posted anything there again.

    Basically an unmoderated cess pool.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    There are comments? I had no idea!

    I thought people just uploaded the image grabbed the URL and pasted it elsewhere.

    Are you using an app or domething?

    For years in kde it was just right click and a URL popped into the clipboard.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    They made it into a quasi-Reddit like fifteen years ago. Back then, Reddit was mostly text posts, while Imgur only ever had image posts and later videos (including screenshots of text, of course). These days that's not as much of a distinction — however on Imgur, short quippy comments always prevailed, and lots and lots of gif comments. After a while, this sucked even ten years ago when I used Imgur for a while, and I don't imagine the situation improved lately.

    Anyway, when uploading an image to link it elsewhere, you can just not publish it for others on the site to see it and comment.

    P.S. Gotta say, though, the most fun I've ever had on social media is when people browsing by ‘new’ on Imgur decided that for one day they would upvote anything and everything that comes by. As a result, exceptionally weird stuff actually made its way to the main feed. I haven't seen such abundance of weirdness and quirkiness even on the early 2010s Tumblr when it was still fresh and hip.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can select hidden or public when uploading to Imgur. If you select hidden, no one sees it unless they have the direct URL to the image. If you select public, it uploads to the public feed and everyone on Imgur can potentially see it. It'll pop up on Newest, and anyone browsing that category can upvote or downvote it.

    If your public post gets enough upvotes, it'll rise to the front page of Imgur. Much like Reddit. And yes, the community can comment on all public posts.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    That's funny to me. Decades of uses and never once wanted anything private, and never once knew people voted on those things or gave a shit.

    I guess they needed a business model that wasn't basically a free image host.

    But now that I don't use imgur, maybe I should just add on to my own server. Don't know why I didn't do that before. I guess it was easier not to.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Same goes for catbox links. Either post the fatbox link instead or choose a different image host, the VPN is not getting turned off just for shitposts.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    +1 for postimg endorsement

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    I don't see the images when I'm on the VPN or off the VPN.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I just yesterday was trying to re-upload a video posted to Imgur that many people couldn't see. Is there a good, privacy-respecting service for videos? Postimage wouldn't allow me to select the MP4 file. It was under 5MB.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    catbox.moe usually works, but I can't upload anything to it if my VPN is active. >...>

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of countries, ISPs, etc. also block Catbox. Though I am confused by the VPN problem, because I also often have issues with Catbox on a VPN, but their FAQ actually suggests to use a VPN to use the service if your country or whatever blocks it. So they clearly are not intending to wholesale block VPNs or anything.

    https://catbox.moe/faq.php

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    I think the inconstancy has to do with whether your VPN of choice is allowing itself to be used for bot scraping and other shitty resource hogs. Back when AI scrapers were running openly via their own company's network and then started to get blocked by IP, the scrapers didn't stop. They just went to VPN.

    So on VPN it's not unusual for me to be fine and then suddenly get blocked from sites, or just extra captchas, Cloudflare checks and the like out of the blue; I've come to assume that just means someone's using it to be shitty. Switching proxies helps occasionally, but not always. I live with it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Is there a good, privacy-respecting service for videos?

    This question is especially tragic because we have a Fediverse video service -- PeerTube -- but the design of it isn't quite right for your use-case.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Don’t most Lemmy instances have their own image proxies? Or is that just for comments, you mean direct links in posts? I don’t know if those are proxied.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I don't know how common that is across different instances, but it's definitely not just for comments. I often find myself looking up some old post that I had created using a Catbox link, and when I look it up from that account's instance Lemmy.One, it's the canonical Catbox link. But on Lemmy.World, the image link for that post is using a proxy.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Just proxy Imgur links through duckduckgo with a tamper monkey script. As long as it isn't mass adopted, it should run under the radar okay for day to day browsing 😂

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I’m more shocked people still use Imgur for anything anymore.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    same goes for anyone using catbox.moe.

    it's become such a problem I've started to block users and communities because 95% of their posts are shared catbox links.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    It sounds like that's some network providers that block catbox, rather than vice versa.

    https://catbox.moe/faq.php

    Why can't I access Catbox/access files on Catbox (files.catbox.moe)?

    Good question! It turns out certain governments in the world hate freedom of information, don't have net neutrality, don't see online service providers as legally exempt entities, or a combination of the three! You will have issues accessing Catbox/files on Catbox if you are connecting from the following countries or providers:

    Probably the most significant ones on there from a standpoint of users here are "Australia", "Rogers", "Comcast", and "Verizon". It sounds like all of those blocks are pretty easy to bypass (like, they're either DNS-level or can be disabled by users on their router, where there's a blacklist toggle that's on by default).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    I've never once even managed to get anything from Catbox via Tor, via different routes. Seems to be a rather widespread problem.

    They must've hosted something egregious to make a whole bunch of ISPs and entire countries block them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    catbox is operated by a nerd like us not some greedy corporate, i personally haven't ever been blocked by them.. they're the best pomf-like site atm imo

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I'm not disputing that.

    it's annoying to have 50% of posts to have missing or broken media, that's why I block those that religiously use it.

    I understand why catbox blocks vpns, but ultimately they need to understand that solution will only solve so much of their problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    PieFed allows you to block entire domains. With a PieFed account, you would be able to just block catbox.moe and never see another Catbox post again from anyone.

    xiFlib3tZcjge7E.webp

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    i've been using imgbb as an alternative for a few years, they're proba gonna enshittify soon but it's not bad as of now. i make sure to save anything i share to the web on the wayback machine SPN tho..

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    Trick: If it's asingle image, you can still download it with save link as...

    If it's a gallery, it'll unfortunately download a .json file. I'm not sure about gifs.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I'm on Fedia and not using a VPN, I never see imgur thumbnails in the posts, I always have to manually click on a link. I rarely bother to click.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Don't use VPN! Easy! /S

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Consider uploading to the fediverse

    I would, except GIFs cannot be uploaded. Every single GIF I've ever tried to upload+post is met with '400 unknown error'. Hence Imgur, sometimes catbox.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Blame your instance, not "the fediverse". Sounds like your admin configured their Lemmy instance to reject GIF uploads in an attempt to save on storage space because GIF files are so large compared to modern formats like WebP, AVIF, JPEGXL, etc. But some instances do allow GIFs. I just posted this last week because the instance I am on does: https://quokk.au/static/media/posts/pt/SI/ptSIPHNTlAYA1Ri.gif

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Lemmy.zip has the same problem when browsing on mobile. There're a lot of moving parts on the fediverse, and it seems like there is constantly something broken.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Imgur is also banned in the uk, I think its due to cyber flashing and epilepsy trolling. Section 187, Online Safety Act.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    hasn’t worked for me in over a year. my vpn is always on. fuck imgur

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I wonder if using a hash-based system could work slightly better (on platforms where you can't edit image links) in these cases where a platform decides to stop serving to some users or go defunct. So that way, you can at least have a slight chance of 'fixing' an image after the fact.

    It wouldn't work with most image share sites, but at least you could rehost it on a mirror yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I really wish we had this. A browser that allows loading files directly using P2P Torrent V2 hashes to load files or even static websites. Opera supports torrents but not as a direct replacement to http.

    Then you could simply upload images to some random torrent seed box to host them and distribute them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    This seems problematic... if I click on a link to something that infringes on a copyright, my system is being used to distribute copyrighted material. That would be exposing me to legal liability without me knowing. Also it's using my bandwidth without my knowledge.

    Yeah I do download from torrents, but I do it with the knowledge that whatever I download is going to be redistributed by my computer, so I know to make sure the VPN is on. Something built into a browser is doing this without the user's knowledge.

    Maybe creating a browser extension to do something like this would be ok, people are opting in when they install the extension. But then the torrents wouldn't work for everyone and given the problem we're trying to solve is links not working for everyone, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I find that my ability to load Imgur depends on the exit server I choose. If the server is in the US, it gets blocked. If the server is in South America it works fine. Ecuador works well for almost everything.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I forgot how I found out about it, but is imglink.cc good? I had a look at the site briefly and it seemed okay to me.

    catbox.moe used to offer free infinite time uploads without an account until very recently. They changed it to max 2 years. That's where I upload my images and videos (with an account) whenever I need to send bug reports with evidence via email or a repo issue tracker

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Poster is right - it is a little funny

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    heck I often won't see them as I don't like to allow imgur

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