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[–] 5 points 2 months ago*

I know the USA media talks about slights to their military like one promises candy to sad children.

But even in the more rational publications like this, there are lines the writers and editors dare not cross. And it shows.

Here is a war criminal who should be promptly arrested; and the whole article is how he lied about this one thing.

This man has uttered dozens, hundreds, over a thousand lies recorded in the public record; and is directly responsible for hundreds of murders and thousands of lesser war crimes

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    [–] 306 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    Because a resupply base was destroyed.

    Saved you a click.

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  • [–] 181 points 2 months ago (20 children)

    Feels like western media also seriously downplayed how much Iran blew shit up

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    People just don't pay attention...

    Iran launching attacks on allied bases were all over the news. We don't resupply ships by loading up what they need on a boat in Virginia then a month later it shows up, they get shipments from the closest bases.

    So when Iran started blowing up all the bases around Iran, it meant none of the ships around Iran would be resupplied.

    That's literally why they did it, launching a direct attack would still be an escalation, so they kneecpped fleet operations around the strait and just waited out the blockade....

    People miss a lot more obvious shit these days, but it's still disappointing.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    People miss a lot more obvious shit these days, but it's still disappointing.

    It doesn't help that there's just an onslaught of fucked up news coming out of the USA which makes it all more difficult to keep up with. "Flood the zone with shit" is working well and the US barely has any real journalism left to counter it. I actually find CBC here in Canada covers what's going on better than any news corp in the country it reports on which is funny in a depressing way

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  • [+] -16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    No, it's not just that.

    Anyone that put two seconds of thought into "why is Iran only attacking US allied bases" would have realized it's to cripple supply lines so the blockade couldn't be maintained, this has been a tactic longer than recorded history.

    It's not a problem with "the media" because most people don't even interact with it, and when they do it's just headlines.

    The problem is societal and it's that no one uses critical thinking. It should be an automatic background process running the whole time we're awake, but it doesn't.

    For older generations it's lead poisoning coming home to roost, for younger generations it's that they were never taught critical thinking. But even the small slice in the middle, we've got a clock till our (lesser) lead poisoning really starts kicking in and is compounded by normal aging.

    We're fucked, but that just makes it all the more important we fix education asap to mitigate the damage. Even tho it'll take 12 years before it really even starts to pay off, and then much longer till that generation becomes a large voting demographic.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It was also to tell neighbours that hosting a US base put them at risk, rather than be a security benefit.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Those neighbors, at least Kuwait, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia, were right alongside the Israelis in lobbying Trump to start the war. Then they thought they could stand idly by and cash in on the carnage while other people did the killing and dying. And they've also had a long history of murdering their indigenous Shi'a populations, and funding or waging wars to kill them elsewhere, such as in Yemen.

    So this sounds like chickens coming home to roost.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Didn't the Pentagon basically close its press offices? Might be part of the issue.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago*

    Bruh, it's not secret information...

    It's just billionaire owned media didn't talk about it.

    This is from NPR 4 months ago, our military was acting like refugees from the jump from Bahrain. Fucking Bahrain, the literally military hub for that region.

    We got waxed immediately and it was openly said, they just counted on people not connecting two dots to form a line.

    On the opening day of the war, the base, known as Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bahrain, was struck multiple times. Posts on social media showed a ballistic missile and Iranian drones slamming into the base. Satellite imagery from the company Planet shows that at least seven buildings in and around the base were struck between Feb. 28 and March 6.

    In response to an NPR request, a Navy spokesman acknowledged that 1,500 sailors, their families and several hundred pets were relocated back to the U.S. from NSA Bahrain.

    And:

    Sailors have been arriving in Norfolk, Va., home to the world's biggest naval base, since at least the middle of March. Several groups that provide aid to military personnel say that the sailors arrived with very little. A call went out to community groups, asking for basic supplies like hygiene products.

    "The base was asking for donations of toiletries and different things for the sailors coming back, because they were coming back with nothing," said Derrick Johnson, commander of American Legion Post 327 in Norfolk.

    The post hosted a spaghetti dinner for some of the sailors, said Keith Shanesy, one of the post's vice commanders.

    "They literally told them, 'Get what you can get in the backpack. You've got to go,'" he said. "They came with no uniforms, nothing. The three we met first, they came with the clothes on their back, what they could fit in that backpack."

    https://www.npr.org/2026/04/03/nx-s1-5770491/evacuation-bahrain-norfolk-troops

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  • [–] 135 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

    Even more so, they did not cover how defenseless the bases were. This might shock many but Trump and Kegbreath started a war with Iran without first allowing the military to prepare. I swear, I'm not lying.

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  • [–] 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Important point. What else would you expect from two people whose entire careers until recently were tv personalities?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah they...

    'We' lost a THAAD radar array on I think literally day one.

    Costs like a billion dollars, or two billion, or something, fucking cost plus accounting, I don't know!

    (If you say an M1A2 Abrams costs approximately $20 million, well then thats 50 to 100 Abrams... or, roughly 1 to 2 entire Combined Arms Battalions)

    Thats the thing that tells 'our' missle defense/interceptor missles 'oi bruv you got incoming', where to go, when to fire, which THAAD interceptor launching platform in what location should fire at which incoming.

    Kind of an insanely huge deal.

    The 'Golden Dome' got its eyes and brain obliterated, on day one.

    So... 'our' entire missle defense strategy at that point was 'oh fuck, scramble together everything that can /maybe/ hit some of the shit THAAD is designed to hit, and also go to South Korea and dismantle their THAAD system so we can repair the one Iran blew up.

    Trying to analogize this... Imagine its the Battle of Britain, and Germany manages to throw V1s at every single radar site in the UK, and wholly destroy them, on day one.

    Its roughly that bad.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Have they played any simulator games. Don't start a fight until you're prepared. Politically, financially, militarily, and even environmentally.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, I am expecting the millennial generation and onwards to be much more adept at running the nation. Playing roguelikes, RTS, and the application of Pokemon is pretty decent training.

    We just need our gerontocracy to finally croak.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    But that was already in the post summary

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not seeing a post summary on this one

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  • [–] 136 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Old military saying, tactics win battles, logistics wins wars.

    General Omar Bradley: Frequently credited with the variation, “Amateurs talk strategy and tactics. Professionals talk logistics.”

    Hegseth is an amateur. This failure is his. He spent all his time attacking woke and not providing the logistical support needed to keep the troops in the field.

    And no, i don’t agree with trumps attack on Iran. But this has been a cluster fuck that didn’t have to happen. Trump and Hegseth purged all the professionals and replaced them with sycophants.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    But you should see the current testosterone levels of our troops!

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago

    Hegseth is an amateur.

    Not even an amateur, he's a racist, misogynist wanker, who doesn't talk strategy or tactics, because he doesn't know a fucking thing about either. Instead, he talks pseudoscience about testosterone levels, obsesses about facial-hair regulations, and blocks promotions of women and Black men to senior ranks.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago*

    Yep that's a whole other element that isn't talked about enough:

    Trump and Hegseth executed what I can only describe as a 'Stalin-esque' purge of officers, prior to this all starting.

    Now they weren't literally executed or sent to gulags, but they're not part of the military anymore.

    ... this cripples your military's ability to do stuff that you, beforehand, probably would have just taken for granted as things that it can do. The kind of stuff that you normally don't notice, because you only notice it when it isn't being done correctly.

    Fucking idiots.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    As always, the soldiers pay the price in the end. This horrible morale will not improve things either. I feel sorry for those kids that depend on these yahoos to be safe, their families too.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I worked as a civilian for the army for 30 years. So yes, don't enlist. They use you up then discard you like soiled toilet paper. It's always kind of been that way.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm married to a Navy veteran I know :( they recruited him at 17, that shouldn't be allowed imo, manipulating little kids to feed the meat grinder.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    If you survive intact and make it to retirement, or just transition to civil servant, it's one of the best pension plans available.

    But it's the surviving part that's tough. I was GS and crawled away on my hands and knees after reaching my 30 years. I really wondered if i would make it the last couple of years. So glad to be out.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    US military bases across the Middle-East have been destroyed and are totally non-functionable.

    The prospect of a sustained ground invasion, which was already a fucking moronic idea on the US's best day, is all but impossible now.

    This war literally only happened and continues because Trump was allowed back in power, and he's a pedophile with loads of Epstein blackmail in the hands of Israel.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    Are we great again yet?

    We’re all waiting very patiently.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That would be treason under any other circumstances, before things went all trumpily weird.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Which moron doesn't protect their supply routes? It's the whole interdiction doctrine.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago*

    The episode of The Daily on this topic the other day was really good.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Why do they give him such flattering pictures? MAGA is loving such displays.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Maga is pretty much dead bro.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I'll believe it when they pry the supermajority out of Mitch McConnel's cold dead hands.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Mitch was around a lot longer than maga.

    Republican shit fuckery is alive and well, but maga is dead.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I get what you're saying, it's dying. But as long as Trump is in power the cult of Trump it's not dead yet. You see his followers still everywhere. Ice is still raping underage childrenteenagers. The techno fascists backing him are still dismantling the US. And there are certainly pretenders to the throne of maga.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    But how could the chlamydia pressy know that a mediocre, alcoholic, racist TV host would be bad at running the military?!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Knowing that this guy rubs his own snot in his hair, it should be forbidden to start any sentenced "Hegseth Covered". Or to show his picture.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It happened in the world, duh

    :)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I am pretty sure USA stuff happens in a parallel timeline. The dankest timeline or something, maybe the darkest, I dunno. I think the timeline broke around Georg Bush's infamous ranch speech: "What do we know about these facts" etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    rather than fix it of course

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    [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Save you a click: they're winning the not-war so hard that the Navy supply chain got pushed back to a UK(!) naval base in the Indian Ocean.

    The USS Abraham Lincoln wasn’t able to be resupplied because the U.S. Navy’s main resupply base in the Gulf of Oman was destroyed by Iranian strikes—a fact that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth chose not to make public, David Rhode, MS NOW’s senior national security reporter, said on Tuesday.

    From late February until June, Iran launched extensive missile and drone strikes on Naval Support Activity Bahrain, causing devastating damage that was not acknowledged by the Pentagon.

    The U.S. Navy was forced to evacuate most personnel, and move supply operations to a U.K. naval base on Diego Garcia, a tiny island in the Indian Ocean 2,200 miles from where two aircraft carrier groups have been operating in the Gulf of Oman.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    not enough testosterone /s

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