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[–] 62 points 2 months ago* (26 children)

One slightly different path here is socks. If a sock lives long enough for its elastic to wear out it can go to "garage clothes" category. Socks missing a mate can also go here being pair up with another sock with a missing mate. Another path for socks to "garage clothes" is if fashion trends finally evolving so far that wearing those socks will get admonishment from the gf/wife if worn out in public. However, as soon as a sock has a hole in it, it skips the "garage clothes" step and heads straight to the "rags" category.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    I don't know what it is but no matter how nice of socks I get or how well I take care of them, they will get a hole in the big toe area within a year at the very latest. I've never had socks last long enough to have the elastic wear out

    Also yes my nails are kept short so it's not that

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I’m here with you. Do you feel like you have exceptionally hard nails? I sure do.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I almost never wear out the toes. For me its balls of the feet holes or occasionally a heel hole. I'll also say that my socks last a long time.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I bought a 12 new pairs of Adidas socks for a 2 week trip I took. Came home with 2 fewer socks because I put holes in the toes. It’s absolutely insane and it happens with all brands.

    Really high quality brands like SmartWool last longer, but the big toe is still what fails first.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Depending on if the holes develop at the top of the toe (dorsum) or the bottom (plantar), you could either have too much range of motion on toe off(hyper mobile 1st ray), or too much rigidity (hallux rigidus).

    A hyper mobile toe will allow too much dorsiflexion in the toe and wear the top of the sock down, some people will even wear a hole in the toebox of their shoes. Too much rigidity will cause the toe to act like an extension of a lever arm and create too much plantar pressure.

    You could also just have a competitively long big toe compared to your lesser toes.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is fantastic! I did some searching for at home tests for hyper mobile first ray, and I definitely see a difference in mobility from one foot to the other, and I feel like my hyper mobile toe is always the one I see sock holes on.

    Dunno what if anything I’m going to do about it, but greatly appreciate your insight.

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  • You could try purchasing a Morton's extension to add to your shoe to see if that changes anything.

    It's a thin piece of carbon fiber that you add under the insert/liner of your shoe. It helps prevent the hyper mobile joint from exceeding its healthy range of motion, and helps load the ground force reaction across the medial column of the forefoot a little more evenly. You can usually find them on Amazon for like 10-20 bucks.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    We just threw out a whole pack of adidas socks. After just a few house of wear, made both me and my wife’s feet smell like 3 day old road kill. We decided it was some shitty blend of plastics doing it.

    I had to walk down an embankment to a river to wash my feet before bed on a camping trip because I didn’t want them in the tent with us.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I have that problem too with polyester socks. I may have those same adidias socks, and I primarily use them for gym/workouts. My daily driver socks are cotton in the summer and merino wool in the winter. Both of these are Costco branded and are lasting years and wearing well.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    And for underwear the path is "maybe I'll get laid" then "still no holes so I can be seen in them" and finally "I'm not going out today so I don't care that one of my balls fell out through the hole". And then rags.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, maybe how it once was and now I only wear Darn Tough socks. Lifetime warranty, basically a sock club. Most definitely buy once cry once and it doesn't matter whether you pay full price or get them on sale. They always warranty the value of the sock on what they sell for on their website. It's so awesome. I haven't needed to buy socks since 2017 when I filled my sock drawer.

    DT is the way.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Nah, maybe how it once was and now I only wear Darn Tough socks.

    You're wearing a $20-$30 pair of socks to mow the lawn or change the oil in a car? I'd be worried about messing those nice socks up.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    I have about 25 pair, unsure exactly. I've paid an average $14 per pair and it's 100% worth it.

    And yes, I wear a fresh pair for work or daily engagement and then they get set aside and used when I'm working around the house for a day or two.

    The wool blend makes them never stink, it's pretty amazing. I bought the majority in 2016 or so from a now debunked website called MassDrop. They'd buy stuff in bulk for discounts then resell them at great prices. I just checked my old emails and paid two pair for $28 and three for $41. Later I bought a few more from GoBros.com for at least 25% off. Checking my emails I got most of them from MassDrop though.

    Here's the thing, DT doesn't care how much you paid or how you got them, they credit the full value upon return and then you shop direct from their website for value credited. When I first started I'd used the rertuns like sock club, I'd send my thick winter ones back in the spring and get thinner summer ones. I'd do the reverse in the fall. My first few years I was swapping out socks twice a year. Now I have enough I wait until the ankle is loose on a few pairs then return in bulk to replace, every 3 years or so.

    You don't need any excuse or reason to do a return that they need. You don't need a receipt.

    I’d be worried about messing those nice socks up

    That's the best part, because they're warrantied you can abuse tf out of them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Socks missing a mate can also go here being pair up with another sock with a missing mate.

    I do not match my socks, I'll wear two completely different socks at the same time. If one loses a mate, then that's fine

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Reading this thread has taught me that when I have a girl over and she tells me that I am not a normal male, I really had no idea how much I didn’t do as a male that other men do all the time….

    I wear all of my clothes until they show clear signs of being worn out and then determine whether that it should be donated or trashed. And i have one shirt then I’ll probably never throw away and it’s one that I’ve had since the 80s, my goonies shirt.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    This is quite accurate.

    The life cycle is pretty similar for pants too.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Meanwhile companies like Shein encourage their customers to wear their cheap synthetic clothing a single time and then throw it in the garbage as a sacrifice to the gods of super-fast-fashion

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Encourage, or just enable?

    I've never heard of Shein telling anyone to do it. I just know their prices are so goddamn cheap you COULD do it if you wanted to. Some people probably do. But I suspect a lot of people just want cheap clothes and will wear them until they have holes in them (which even for Shein clothes has to be multiple wearings usually I'm pretty sure)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Having gotten some Temu clothing as gifts, there are two main materials I've seen. One feels very much like a rough cotton, like the material harem pants are made of, and is mainly in the shorts/pants I've gotten. It's a cotton poly blend, and one is the material of the shirts. They're super stretchy and elastic, like a spandex almost. The pants and shorts end up with holes quickly as they rip near (but not on) the seams, and the shirts seem to actually last even if snagged because of how stretchy they are.

    I wouldn't advise buying from them or anything, just saying that they're not exactly single use.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    In the German documentary I've watched a few years ago it definitely looked like their business model was selling their customers insane amounts of cheaply produced clothing by encouraging them to change their outfit super-often, hence the term "fast fashion". They even pay influencers to promote this wasteful trend as "Shein hauls". And they steal designa from artists

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    encourage their customers to wear their cheap synthetic clothing a single time and then throw it in the garbage

    do you have a single fact to back that up?

    spoilerI just wanted to make the Deus ex reference. But I would like to see evidence

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The fast fashion part?

    https://time.com/6247732/shein-climate-change-labor-fashion/

    The encouraging a single use part? Also in that article, but it revolves around influencers driving constant change. But also the clothes being really cheap and falling apart.

    And anecdotally, there's a pile of clothes in my wife's closet that still haven't gotten their first wear.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Do women not do that? Where do they get rags from?

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago

    Reduce, Reuse, Recycle in the form of men's clothing.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Before that it’s a going-out shirt.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They can also be turned into crop tops

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    My favorite shirt is sitting on the top shelf of my closet because I can’t bring myself to downgrade it to a rag. It has a hole on the armpit that I could fit throughπŸ˜‚

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I have like a hundred shirts I got at shows in college in a vacuum sealed bag in my closet. Because one day - for sure. definitely. I am 100% going to do this. I have not been putting it off for over a decade - I'm going to turn them into throw pillows

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    I'm taking a different path where the holes make the clothes into fun pieces with fun patches on them (or they're turned into patches if I didn't really like the article of clothing to begin with).

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    My dad still uses tshirts from the 80’s as rags

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    You forgot the stage after garage clothes, that would be PJs. Then it gets turned into a rag.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I think PJs goes before garage clothes, not after

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    For me they are interchangeable. Garage clothes and PJs are often the same stage.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    "Are those oily stains on your crotch, are you an octopus and happy to see me?"

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  • The only reason I ever gave clothing away was when my fat ass got even fatter and didn't fit anymore.

    Oh and when I finally left the consultant lifestyle behind me and gave away all my suits.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Some people have to realize that men usually don't waste clothes. If it's ruined in one way, we recycle it in another way.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    This isn't a gender thing, it's a working-class thing. Let's not get divided unnecessarily divided.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Huh? Which part is strictly a working class thing?

    There's a large spectrum between "I'll wear it until it falls apart," and, "I've never worn this but I need space for new clothes so it's going to goodwill," and working class people fall all over it.

    Women generally tend to be the ones who will more frequently refresh their wardrobe. All you have to do is go to a thrift store to see the difference between genders. The women's clothing section will be massive, and the men's section significantly smaller.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I get what you are saying. But in this context this is kind of like a β€œdad joke.” Do we think being pedantic about the terminology is really reinforcing some kind of negative gender stereotype here? Or minimizing the working class?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Lemmy cannot stand jokes while we currently live in a world.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    That's make senseπŸ€”

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    i still have tshirts i bought in my 20s. the collars of a couple of them are starting to detach but theyre still wearable

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  • That's exactly how I manage my clothes.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    my best shirts and hoodies have the diablo 2 etherial tag on them

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    missing an important part of the lifecycle : the origin of the new clothes.

    The money saved from not buying new clothes at each transitional step ends up used for buying new clothes to start the cycle again.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I have a few subcategories like camping shirts and music festival shirts but otherwise it's spot on. The same goes for pants and hoodies.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The final evolution is Turing the old rags into cord for the garden.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Sounds about right. Way to go dad!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Pretty much. Except the earth part, that's littering (even your sheep wool bamboo flax shirt has some sorts of plastic).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    And ultimately goes to the landfill, since no recycling facility is going to attempt to extract the plastic from your flax shirt.

    So it does return to the earth. The only difference from β€œlittering” then is just the location.

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