and they’ll just age out of usefulness.

Nah, we'll stall on this generation. Even if a new one is released, very few will pay the extra when games would alreadyhave to start becoming RAM optimized again. Even Windows just dropped their 32GB recommendation.

Without the recommendation being met, people weren't buying windows PCs, so lower the requirement and people will buy more computers and more copies of windows. Which means they always could have just optimized better if they felt pressure.

Games will 100% do the same.

Which could be a huge thing for rational companies right now.

The big hurdle to domestic production is you'll spend billions and by the time it's built it's "last gen".

Instead of useless data centers, we could be building up domestic chip production, confident it will still produce top of the line chips when it goes live.

A literal golden opportunity, more so if China goes after Taiwan finally, you'd be the only international supplier.

As far as I know, no country is doing it tho.

The prices finna be ka-ching when the bubble finally bursts though

My steam deck has become my all in one. Sucks memory card prices have leaped the past year. But I got a couple terabytes, so I'll be alright, just going to have to shuffle them around. But I'm cool with not having 240 hz 4k on Powerthirst settings. I got a back log anyways and a yard to get back into shape.

I got 3 6+ year old thinkpads that are all chugging along just fine. got them all for dirt cheap.

But as another person said keep that shit for as long as possible and learn how to properly maintain it. New stuff is absolutely horrible. I recently had an ASUS laptop that fried itself after 3 years. was getting really wonky 2 years in.

Keep it as long as possible, the new shit suuuucks, is built to break & riddled with adware.

Back in my day ;) we had to worry about keeping up with the newest tech because you needed it for the best games or whatever.

These days, my desktop from 2014 can run all of the new games that I want to play (yes, even the demanding ones) It has 32 gigs ram and a 1660 Ti. That's really all I need, especially since most of the games I enjoy AREN'T new.

Yeah, same here honestly

Or maybe I should buy a refurbished gaming laptop

Praying it doesn't malfunction

Luckily two and a half years ago I decided it was time for a new computer. I go more than a decade between new PCs so it was just really dumb luck that I got a new computer when I did. And the reason I can go so long between computers is because I always get way more RAM than I need when I get a new one.

So given the current state of things, it's a little awkward to admit how much RAM is in my computer.

its nvidia and AI creating a bubble on the belief they'll be able to get profit and get out before it pops.

But all it is.. is imaginary money going around in circles. nvidia invests a trillion in AI, AI buys a trillion dollars of nvidia videocards from some nebulous point in the future where they arent made yet, nvidia invests that trillion back into AI, AI uses it to buy ridiculous amounts of ram that wont be made for years, RAM invests it back into AI, and on and on they go, generating imaginary money and value, by buying imaginary things.

under a sane government this would be investigated as raw stock manipulation and fraud

I really hope when this bubble pops nvidia is destroyed in the process along with the AI companies.

If by "pinky promises" you mean contractually binding letters of intent, then yes. This is standard procedure in any manufacturing industry when dealing with orders of massive quantities, because it normally also requires investment from the manufacturer in equipment which they don't make on non-binding "pinky promises).

Yeah but as long as the manufacturers keep selling all their production for real money, everybody else is screwed and prices are going up.

Half the joke of the AI bubble is how American tech firms prioritized brute force over efficient engineering.

Truth.

I am astounded that games like Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider and Abe's Oddysee with their massive sprawling worlds were crammed into such relatively tiny file sizes.

Necessity gets results

This guy actually Making RAM at Home

Really interesting watch actually. But uh, I don’t think we’re gaming on homemade RAM anytime soon lol

OpenAI has a deal with Samsung and SK Hynix to purchase 900,000 DRAM wafers per month, or 40% of global DRAM output. These are just uncut wafers, accumulating in warehouses that serve two purposes:

• Prepares them for the distribution to data centers,
• Manipulates the supply chain to squeeze their competitors, who are left with slim pickings.

You and I are the victims of this until the bubble finally pops and the deal falls through.

It's because it's a Ponzi scheme. Huge amounts of investment dollars are being dumped into AI and anything related to AI. If you build any kind of chips that are used in AI datacenters, you suddenly have a bunch of money invested in your company. What do you do with it? You make a deal with OpenAI (or one of the other ones) that you'll invest that money into them if they agree to buy a bunch of chips from you. Now you have revenue on books and are showing a reasonable return on that investment.

If you were a chip manufacturer and actually believed that there was a big future in AI, you'd be using those investment dollars to build some more chip fabs. And some of these companies are doing that. But overall, moving money to another company so they will order chips for datacenters that aren't built yet (and may never be built) is just bubble ponzi shenanigans.

Computer hardware depreciates in value very quickly. You don't buy hardware today so you can install that hardware in a datacenter that won't be online for another year.

What did that Michigan politician say "we're used to ignoring people and just doing it anyway" something along those lines...

Production is usually sold a year in advance. This includes orders from retail outlets.

My take is more of a:
1000 DCs were planned
200 are getting cancelled
800 are yet to be built, built, supplied with products

and of the 800 remaining DCs, some are buying the stock that is now free or the orders are rerouted by the ordering company to other locations that also need more hardware.

Your bank account certainly will be.

That said, if you buy refurb you can put together a decent rig on a budget.

Recently built a computer for my kiddo. Beg, borrow, and steal. And keep an eye out for motherboard and memory combos from new egg.

Overcooked at this point

SODIMM ram is still cheap. You could build them a ddr4 intel system with integrated graphics (ideally Arc cores or plenty of EUs) that will run some older or simpler games at 40-60fps with a little upscaling, and the whole thing could be done for 500-700 I reckon.

Either that or maybe build an AM4 if you find a used GPU at a good price.

Microcenter or some similar physical store is probably your own hope. They run pretty decent deals to bring you into the store.

I’d recommend visiting one for Black Friday/cyber Monday. It’s probably your only hope for things not to be ridiculously overpriced. Instead you’ll just pay for very overpriced items.

See if there's a Microcenter anywhere near you. They fairly regularly have pretty good deals on CPU/MB/RAM bundles.

Not necessarily. You could give them a budget and let them pick whatever fits inside that budget.

At least till they decide the AIs all need faces 🤣

Until we start sanctioning them, too