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[–] 43 points 3 months ago (9 children)

GOG Galaxy is like Steam but for GOG games, in case anyone else was wondering.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I think it also has integrations for some other things too, so you can use it to launch all your games from various launchers instead of remembering which games are on which launchers and opening each one to search for the game you want to play. It centralized your games into one spot which can be nice.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    Its a bit better than that, its a bit closer to an all in one launcher /downloader client for all your games from (steam)/gog/epic/etc

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Great news. I hope they add linux native achievements , or cloud saves to linux native versions too.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    I believe thatbis the point of GOG Galaxy, otherwise you can just use the native installers.

    Hopefully they add Wine/Proton integration like Steam and Heroic have.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I believe thatbis the point of GOG Galaxy, otherwise you can just use the native installers.

    Well not only that. The client is there to auto update your games, and provide a friends list for social messaging in example. I also hope they integrate Wine, Proton and maybe other variants. Otherwise a Linux client would be pointless to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I've never used GoG Galaxy, does it have cloud saves? If so that's really nice and I might start using it.

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  • [–] 69 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Amazing, it only took them about a decade from it being the most voted for feature of all time until they started working on it. That gives me great confidence that they'll treat us Linux users like first class citizens /s

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  • [–] 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This new effort started when the new CEO bought back a majority of shares. He was one of the original owners. Back then their Linux efforts were also better.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Oh, come on. They are right about the DRM, I can give them the benefit of the doubt.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'm glad they're doing it, but I'll believe it when I see it. This seems like a marketing thing more than anything else, like most things GoG does. Which brings me to:

    They are right about the DRM

    Except they don't believe that themselves: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1

    Plus, if you disconsider the whole "having to use Steam to download binaries is a form of DRM", AFAIK the same games that are DRM free on GoG are DRM free on Steam.

    I'm all in favor of no DRM in games, but being able to play the games on my OS of choice is miles more important than them being DRM-free, because I honestly don't care about the DRM status of a binary I can't use. So I'd rather keep giving money to the company that's investing in making me able to play games. I used to buy games from GoG back before Proton and DXVK, but those projects made Steam so much more attractive for Linux users that it is not even a contest.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    That poster's opinion of what is DRM is... interesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    To be fair, they got burned with the response to their Wine "port" of one of their Witcher games. It’s not a port, but a preconfigured and tested Wine setup is still better. That made it very clear that they either have to make it completely right or not at all, so they picked the latter.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    It’s about damn time.

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  • [+] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    If the official macOS client is anything to go by, I wouldn’t get too excited. Just use Heroic instead.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Will it too be 100x heavier than needed?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm actually going to try it out. Assuming there will be wine/Proton included

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I doubt it tbh. Valve had their difficulties with Proton. They have a server infrastructure to convert videos for which they can’t ship codecs without getting in a patent grey area. GOG would need to do that too or have a completely different approach to Proton, since Valve wants it to work without any external dependencies a user would need to install.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    I don't know what they could put on the table except for something like Big Picture, which is not nearly as fleshed out on Heroic.

    And even then, Big Picture is already available for most gamers, because Steam is already installed.

    I think it would've been a better use of resources to just officially support Heroic. GOG support exists because of their open distribution system. So why make use of that software?

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  • [+] 9 points 3 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Yeah I get from a user's perspective why they would like an official client. But I personally don't believe it would attract enough new users to make maintaining a Linux version worthwhile from the firms perspective. Especially managing game compatibility on Linux seems like a nightmare. (I take this back, I was thinking about it and I haven't had any issues with Proton for a while now.) But hey, their board probably already weighted this out before making the decision so I might just be underestimating the crowd it would attract

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Idk, some user here who otherwise is supremely anti-corporation, anti-DRM and anti-closed source said they absolutely can NOT use GOG over Steam because there's no native Linux client. Apparently that's a complete showstopper for some people, despite the existence of Heroic and many other tools you could use. "The games just don't work"

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I can think of a couple of valid reasons someone would like to use an officially supported client, like inherent trust, ease of use, and a soft guarantee for support. But for people you're calling supremely anti-corporation and anti-closed source it doesn't make sense to use either. Both are owned by firms and are closed source. And if you count Steam games requiring the Steam client to run, then Steam also has DRM on all games

    Using GOG Galaxy also won't fix the game related issues people have with Heroic. Heroic pulls the same files Galaxy on Linux would. Hence if game doesn't work, it would likely be a Wine or Proton specific issue. Heroic also automatically applies known fixes to games using Proton. So I don't know what Galaxy could do to provide a more stable experience.

    Edit: missing word (use)

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Heroic exists independently of GOG, which limits them to the decision of an independent developer. Essentially, they are at the mercy of Heroic dev to support GOG.

    Porting their own application ensures they maintain control over software stack and also get improved security.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I used to run GOG Galaxy through Lutris to play Cyberpunk 2077 to use cloud saves.

    Other than that, yeah, Lutris and Heroic are probably a better experience if you just need an installer and you don't want to download dozens of packages through their website.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Inb4 some damn electron app

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh no a multiplatform app that just works, I would 200 percent prefer to have a native all that will instill the Lord's fear into the heart of several un(der)paid interns. Blood and bones I say , blood and bones

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Next step is adding a decent spanish translation to the website.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (24 children)

    will it have ss symbols too?

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Only occasionally and they will say 'sorry'.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    It was an honest mistake. Anybody who read the statement should be able to see that. 👍

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Honest mistake: "Yeah maybe in Germany that shit could give us trouble lets remove that, everyone else just send this shit"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    According to GOG, the German QA team recognized the problem before distribution and pointed it out. However, the feedback did not reach the colleagues responsible for the international versions of the newsletter in time.

    They were very open about their mistake and simply owned up to it. No bullshit. That's to be commended. And they promised to do better.

    Take that or leave it.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    TIL Poland education system is so fucked that Poland QA team is dumb as fuck and know nothing about their own fucking history. This only make sense if the international team handling this is in USA which I expect the worse thing possible so it's make total sense that they could do this level of mistake of using no only one Nazi symbol but TWO together.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    They probably posted it from a PC. This only manifested on mobile devices for them, and they didn't check them before sending, is my understanding.

    Sometimes people make mistakes, dude, Jesus. Chill. They owned up to their mistake.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Nah, they use the SS and two symbols that together look like the black sun. Even in their excuse that is not actually the SS but some pagan symbol why put two of them? + the sun ones. All their explanations sound like excuses. They messed up big time with either AI or someone who shouldn't be working with them and every QA was not paying attention. A simple "we fucked up big sorry" was better.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    The symbols used can be explained by reading this, by the developers of the game:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/1txmcyd/comment/opy1ya9/

    It's a "kolovrat" and it looks like that.

    To me this is just an honest and naive mistake. That turned out very bad in the end, but nonetheless.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Kolovrat is one thing, ss runes were unmistakable and the explanation “that’s our ancestry” made it worse since they’ve used greek symbols instead of the rune, and 2 of them together. Even developers said they had no explanation for that.

    That was a nazi dog whistle and gog didn’t even try to distance themselves from nazis, not even saying “nazi bad” after the whole thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    Everyone involved has said it was a serious and honest mistake, and they will try to do better in the future. I personally don't need more than that. I don't believe they have anything to gain from sending Nazi political messages in their newsletters. Nobody with any sense could believe there's any gain in that for a game company.

    For me, this is water under the bridge. Not a nothing burger of course, it was a serious mistake, as stated. But it's over now. Forgiven but not forgotten. Let's move on.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Oh I think that is very likely but it's odd that this is not what GOG said but the game dev. They don't want to be associated with using AI? They think this sound like an excuse? To me the other explanations sound more like an excuse than this.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Can someone give me context to this reply? I have no clue, but based on the up-downvotes involved, it sounds important.

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    As someone from Germany, this would freak the hell out of me. Looks like a mistake, not something intentionally crafted. Whatever the real reason is (companies rarely say the truth), I understand the issue now. Thanks for the link.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    The real issue is that they saw the problem and fixed it for Germany only and not for anywhere else.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    The real issue is that they never stated that they are not nazi sympathizers after the whole thing. They issued a non-apology, said it caused “unfortunate associations”, “this is our history”, but never said they don’t associate with nazis, that nazism is bad, or that whoever is responsible for the fuckup will be held accountable

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    To be fair, when I saw those symbols I thought about lightning, not SS, especially given the spacing that would have never hinted at the SS symbol.

    Then, knowing the game, I thought it must have been some Slavic mythology reference.

    But I understand Germans, Zios and Americans are obsessed about such things. After all they keep learning from each other about cultural appropriation and erasure.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    My first thought wasn't the SS, but the fact that they saw it and thought it might be a problem in Germany is another story.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    But it is. In Germany. Then do you think the same of the Wolfenstein games being about the Cult if the Wolf or whatever it was?

    Germany always had special treatment, self-inflicted or not.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I understand that, but then why would they not correct it for everyone? They saw that there was a problem, so they made a second newsletter specifically for Germany, but sent the problematic one out to everyone else. Like wouldn't it have made more sense to just fix it for everyone and avoid the obvious criticism?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago
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    Why ? We already have heroic launcher.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yea, I'd honestly rather them invest in heroic launcher.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Same. Create APIs for Heroic launcher and Faugus launcher to interface with and send achievement results or work with them to integrate achievement modules that can be called for the same purpose.

    They should also give them some funding, maybe in exchange for something like defaulting to opting into Gog pop-up ads on client open with an ability to uncheck it for anyone who has linked a Gog account. That way Gog still gets to do their marketing to those who want it and Heroic gets funding.

    Otherwise I like others fear a shitty electron app or something else with lots of problems, just plain ugly, and more a vehicle for pushing ads and sales than serving Linux players. If anything I also fear them making it more difficult for Heroic and other launchers to work in order to attempt to push users to their app which has the ads.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    A really dumb question from a non-gamer. If I were to buy a game from GOG. Say Doom, can I simply run the Windows installer with bottles? I have no interest in "modern" games and I seldom play, but I have a taste for the occasional trip down memory lane.

    I do use a couple of windows programs in bottles without issue, (Bambubuddy and Meshmixer), but I don't know jack all about buying games.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What's a bottle in this context?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I'm a poor Linux user so might not be best person to answer, but bottles on Linux provides a framework for programs to emulate a windows environment so you can run non Windows apps within Linux. This is a bad explanation, if anyone knows better please chime in.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    That is exactly what I do. Except that I use Lutris for the better logging and debugging options. Just create an empty proton prefix ("bottle") and run the installer.exe. Sometimes you might need to install the visual c++ redistributables first (download and run the exe, then run installer.exe).

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