GOG Galaxy is like Steam but for GOG games, in case anyone else was wondering.
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Great news. I hope they add linux native achievements , or cloud saves to linux native versions too.
I believe thatbis the point of GOG Galaxy, otherwise you can just use the native installers.
Hopefully they add Wine/Proton integration like Steam and Heroic have.
I believe thatbis the point of GOG Galaxy, otherwise you can just use the native installers.
Well not only that. The client is there to auto update your games, and provide a friends list for social messaging in example. I also hope they integrate Wine, Proton and maybe other variants. Otherwise a Linux client would be pointless to me.
I've never used GoG Galaxy, does it have cloud saves? If so that's really nice and I might start using it.
Amazing, it only took them about a decade from it being the most voted for feature of all time until they started working on it. That gives me great confidence that they'll treat us Linux users like first class citizens /s
This new effort started when the new CEO bought back a majority of shares. He was one of the original owners. Back then their Linux efforts were also better.
Oh, come on. They are right about the DRM, I can give them the benefit of the doubt.
I'm glad they're doing it, but I'll believe it when I see it. This seems like a marketing thing more than anything else, like most things GoG does. Which brings me to:
They are right about the DRM
Except they don't believe that themselves: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
Plus, if you disconsider the whole "having to use Steam to download binaries is a form of DRM", AFAIK the same games that are DRM free on GoG are DRM free on Steam.
I'm all in favor of no DRM in games, but being able to play the games on my OS of choice is miles more important than them being DRM-free, because I honestly don't care about the DRM status of a binary I can't use. So I'd rather keep giving money to the company that's investing in making me able to play games. I used to buy games from GoG back before Proton and DXVK, but those projects made Steam so much more attractive for Linux users that it is not even a contest.
That poster's opinion of what is DRM is... interesting.
To be fair, they got burned with the response to their Wine "port" of one of their Witcher games. It’s not a port, but a preconfigured and tested Wine setup is still better. That made it very clear that they either have to make it completely right or not at all, so they picked the latter.
But letting anyone in is also a security risk. Steam has the capacity to check everything, and still some virus and other pass on.
(provided the developer isn't mass-producing asset flips).
This reminds me: Still wondering why the heck Whalerock games are still on GoG...
If the official macOS client is anything to go by, I wouldn’t get too excited. Just use Heroic instead.
Will it too be 100x heavier than needed?
I'm actually going to try it out. Assuming there will be wine/Proton included
I doubt it tbh. Valve had their difficulties with Proton. They have a server infrastructure to convert videos for which they can’t ship codecs without getting in a patent grey area. GOG would need to do that too or have a completely different approach to Proton, since Valve wants it to work without any external dependencies a user would need to install.
I don't know what they could put on the table except for something like Big Picture, which is not nearly as fleshed out on Heroic.
And even then, Big Picture is already available for most gamers, because Steam is already installed.
I think it would've been a better use of resources to just officially support Heroic. GOG support exists because of their open distribution system. So why make use of that software?
Yeah I get from a user's perspective why they would like an official client. But I personally don't believe it would attract enough new users to make maintaining a Linux version worthwhile from the firms perspective. Especially managing game compatibility on Linux seems like a nightmare. (I take this back, I was thinking about it and I haven't had any issues with Proton for a while now.) But hey, their board probably already weighted this out before making the decision so I might just be underestimating the crowd it would attract
Idk, some user here who otherwise is supremely anti-corporation, anti-DRM and anti-closed source said they absolutely can NOT use GOG over Steam because there's no native Linux client. Apparently that's a complete showstopper for some people, despite the existence of Heroic and many other tools you could use. "The games just don't work"
I can think of a couple of valid reasons someone would like to use an officially supported client, like inherent trust, ease of use, and a soft guarantee for support. But for people you're calling supremely anti-corporation and anti-closed source it doesn't make sense to use either. Both are owned by firms and are closed source. And if you count Steam games requiring the Steam client to run, then Steam also has DRM on all games
Using GOG Galaxy also won't fix the game related issues people have with Heroic. Heroic pulls the same files Galaxy on Linux would. Hence if game doesn't work, it would likely be a Wine or Proton specific issue. Heroic also automatically applies known fixes to games using Proton. So I don't know what Galaxy could do to provide a more stable experience.
Edit: missing word (use)
Yeah this must be it. I have a hard time wrapping my head around it, but there seem to be a lot of people who find downloading a file with the installer and running it to be a problem. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Heroic exists independently of GOG, which limits them to the decision of an independent developer. Essentially, they are at the mercy of Heroic dev to support GOG.
Porting their own application ensures they maintain control over software stack and also get improved security.
Activities. My "friends" can’t see what and how much I play. My only entry there is from testing Amazon Luna.
I used to run GOG Galaxy through Lutris to play Cyberpunk 2077 to use cloud saves.
Other than that, yeah, Lutris and Heroic are probably a better experience if you just need an installer and you don't want to download dozens of packages through their website.
Inb4 some damn electron app
Oh no a multiplatform app that just works, I would 200 percent prefer to have a native all that will instill the Lord's fear into the heart of several un(der)paid interns. Blood and bones I say , blood and bones
probably proprietary too 💔
will it have ss symbols too?
Only occasionally and they will say 'sorry'.
It was an honest mistake. Anybody who read the statement should be able to see that. 👍
Honest mistake: "Yeah maybe in Germany that shit could give us trouble lets remove that, everyone else just send this shit"
According to GOG, the German QA team recognized the problem before distribution and pointed it out. However, the feedback did not reach the colleagues responsible for the international versions of the newsletter in time.
They were very open about their mistake and simply owned up to it. No bullshit. That's to be commended. And they promised to do better.
Take that or leave it.
TIL Poland education system is so fucked that Poland QA team is dumb as fuck and know nothing about their own fucking history. This only make sense if the international team handling this is in USA which I expect the worse thing possible so it's make total sense that they could do this level of mistake of using no only one Nazi symbol but TWO together.
They probably posted it from a PC. This only manifested on mobile devices for them, and they didn't check them before sending, is my understanding.
Sometimes people make mistakes, dude, Jesus. Chill. They owned up to their mistake.
Nah, they use the SS and two symbols that together look like the black sun. Even in their excuse that is not actually the SS but some pagan symbol why put two of them? + the sun ones. All their explanations sound like excuses. They messed up big time with either AI or someone who shouldn't be working with them and every QA was not paying attention. A simple "we fucked up big sorry" was better.
The symbols used can be explained by reading this, by the developers of the game:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/1txmcyd/comment/opy1ya9/
It's a "kolovrat" and it looks like that.
To me this is just an honest and naive mistake. That turned out very bad in the end, but nonetheless.
Kolovrat is one thing, ss runes were unmistakable and the explanation “that’s our ancestry” made it worse since they’ve used greek symbols instead of the rune, and 2 of them together. Even developers said they had no explanation for that.
That was a nazi dog whistle and gog didn’t even try to distance themselves from nazis, not even saying “nazi bad” after the whole thing.
Everyone involved has said it was a serious and honest mistake, and they will try to do better in the future. I personally don't need more than that. I don't believe they have anything to gain from sending Nazi political messages in their newsletters. Nobody with any sense could believe there's any gain in that for a game company.
For me, this is water under the bridge. Not a nothing burger of course, it was a serious mistake, as stated. But it's over now. Forgiven but not forgotten. Let's move on.
Oh I think that is very likely but it's odd that this is not what GOG said but the game dev. They don't want to be associated with using AI? They think this sound like an excuse? To me the other explanations sound more like an excuse than this.
Can someone give me context to this reply? I have no clue, but based on the up-downvotes involved, it sounds important.
As someone from Germany, this would freak the hell out of me. Looks like a mistake, not something intentionally crafted. Whatever the real reason is (companies rarely say the truth), I understand the issue now. Thanks for the link.
The real issue is that they saw the problem and fixed it for Germany only and not for anywhere else.
The real issue is that they never stated that they are not nazi sympathizers after the whole thing. They issued a non-apology, said it caused “unfortunate associations”, “this is our history”, but never said they don’t associate with nazis, that nazism is bad, or that whoever is responsible for the fuckup will be held accountable
To be fair, when I saw those symbols I thought about lightning, not SS, especially given the spacing that would have never hinted at the SS symbol.
Then, knowing the game, I thought it must have been some Slavic mythology reference.
But I understand Germans, Zios and Americans are obsessed about such things. After all they keep learning from each other about cultural appropriation and erasure.
My first thought wasn't the SS, but the fact that they saw it and thought it might be a problem in Germany is another story.
But it is. In Germany. Then do you think the same of the Wolfenstein games being about the Cult if the Wolf or whatever it was?
Germany always had special treatment, self-inflicted or not.
I understand that, but then why would they not correct it for everyone? They saw that there was a problem, so they made a second newsletter specifically for Germany, but sent the problematic one out to everyone else. Like wouldn't it have made more sense to just fix it for everyone and avoid the obvious criticism?
Maybe some Celtic crosses and totenkopfs too
Why ? We already have heroic launcher.
Yea, I'd honestly rather them invest in heroic launcher.
Same. Create APIs for Heroic launcher and Faugus launcher to interface with and send achievement results or work with them to integrate achievement modules that can be called for the same purpose.
They should also give them some funding, maybe in exchange for something like defaulting to opting into Gog pop-up ads on client open with an ability to uncheck it for anyone who has linked a Gog account. That way Gog still gets to do their marketing to those who want it and Heroic gets funding.
Otherwise I like others fear a shitty electron app or something else with lots of problems, just plain ugly, and more a vehicle for pushing ads and sales than serving Linux players. If anything I also fear them making it more difficult for Heroic and other launchers to work in order to attempt to push users to their app which has the ads.
A really dumb question from a non-gamer. If I were to buy a game from GOG. Say Doom, can I simply run the Windows installer with bottles? I have no interest in "modern" games and I seldom play, but I have a taste for the occasional trip down memory lane.
I do use a couple of windows programs in bottles without issue, (Bambubuddy and Meshmixer), but I don't know jack all about buying games.
What's a bottle in this context?
I'm a poor Linux user so might not be best person to answer, but bottles on Linux provides a framework for programs to emulate a windows environment so you can run non Windows apps within Linux. This is a bad explanation, if anyone knows better please chime in.
Bottles is a container that is like WINE for windows applications. It was easy to install as a flatpak in kinonite and easy to use.
That is exactly what I do. Except that I use Lutris for the better logging and debugging options. Just create an empty proton prefix ("bottle") and run the installer.exe. Sometimes you might need to install the visual c++ redistributables first (download and run the exe, then run installer.exe).
You should be able to, GoG has no DRM and you just get the installer or .exe or however the game comes.
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