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[–] 165 points 3 months ago (21 children)

Back in my day, YouTube had a 5-star rating system

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  • [–] 44 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    and search results showed only videos related to your search. recommendations on the side were similar videos and not some unrelated bullshit. it was so much better.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Honestly if someone remade an old YouTube alternative I think it would take off.

    It’s what I wish PeerTube was, but I’m not sure if that will ever take off sadly.

    Lack of advertising dollars is definitely an impediment to video platform alternatives…

    I remember a time when people just posted silly little shitty drawn videos just for the fun of it. Not saying creators shouldn’t be compensated for their hard work, I just feel like something was lost with the monetization of every little thing.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The trouble is hosting that much video content and the bandwidth to feed viewers.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    People really fail to understand what a truly colossal undertaking a site like YouTube is. It's a technological wonder that they are able to process that much data and serve it so efficiently. Hate YouTube all you want, I do, but the engineers at Google are fucking magicians.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Recommendations on the side today are related to everything you've watched in like the last week or so.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Which I really hate, because it means when you get into some specific interest, YouTube basically stops showing you anything else.

    Hey YouTube! Those interests I was into last week, last month, I'm still into them! Please don't railroad me like that!

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  • [–] 83 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    And the video's rating was plainly visible so you could use it to make the decision whether the video was even worth your click.

    The shovelware AI slop video channels wouldn't be such a problem today if we still had that.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Going straight to YouTube is like going straight to Imgur looking for good content. Should never be done. Places like Lemmy or friend chat groups refer me to good videos. Or my curated subscribed channels with quality content is the other way I watch youtube.

    Anyone going straight to YouTube.com looking for their algorithm and ratings system to tell them about shit content in advance is mistaken in their expectations.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    extensive use of the "Don't recommend this video > Tell us why > I don't like this video" function, plus removing bad videos from my watch history after I stop watching, has got me a well-trained slop-free recommendations page with interesting new smallish channels.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Usually I go there looking for something specific and use the search bar.

    However, the search function in YouTube has also turned to absolute crap. It only lists a few results and then switches to random shit you didn't ask for.

    A lot of the results are also often misleading titles leading to lazy videos that are a slideshow of impertinent pictures with a synthetized voice spewing inaccurate information. AI has made that even worse. The star rating system would have helped identify these crap videos before you click on them.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Back in my day, there were alternatives to Google

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Only because Google actually worked as advertised (and only as advertised). Compared to what Google is now, that’s a matter of opinion.

    All things considered, I’ll take the Google of yesteryear over the Google of today. I’ll also take a more privative and much goofier/glitchier YouTube.

    Shit, I remember when having a Gmail account was a coveted thing that required an invite that people paid literally hundreds, even thousands of dollars for. I had five, and I sold one for $2k, and another for $4k. (These people were total twats). Decades later, I still use my fistname.lastname@gmail.com addy, while one is dead, and the other got married 2 months later and changed their name anyway. Idiots, lol. Weeks later, invite Scott bumped up to 50, then 250, then unlimited, then it got opened to the public.

    Being impatient is expensive.

    Grad school was a crazy time

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  • [–] 69 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Back in my day, memes weren't Ai "enhanced" and Bart didn't have a vagina for an ear.

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    [–] 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You sweet summer child, back in my day YouTube had a five star rating system and video response functionality.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Gotta say, don't miss video responses. It was nearly all irrelevant content and people trying to advertise their own channels

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    no one uses the return YouTube dislikes browser extension?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

    What's the point, if downvotes are no longer a factor in the YT backend?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It's more complicated than that. The button still exists even without the add-on and the back end factors it in and I think shows the creator, but doesn't show it to the front end. So the add-on doesn't have the real numbers but there still are real numbers

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    yeah the only thing you see with the add-on is the stats for the people who have the add-on, which ideally would statistically approximate the actual data but we all know that it's not even close.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    It is surprisingly close. I download a lot of videos with yt-dlp and have seen ratios where up to 20% of total likes being from Return YouTube Dislike users.

    Like here's a video with 188,573 likes in total of which 28,330 were submitted to the data base:

    https://returnyoutubedislikeapi.com/votes?videoId=dtjb2OhEQcU

    The users disliked 130 times which was extrapolated to 356. No idea how that formula works, I believe users with this plugin could be more likely to dislike videos than users without that plugin which may be factored in.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It still does, it just doesn't show numbers because YouTube is a coward.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    And this meme wasn't AI upscaled

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Ah, I remember when you paused and the whole video was buffering. You could have multiple tabs open and watch the video when it was done. No matter what kind of connection you had, you could simply wait for the video to finish downloading in the background and watch it without problems.

    No ads, a 5-star rating system, 100% buffering, and mostly enthusiasts posting, no profit-driven incentives. We didn't know how good we had it.

    I hate the way YouTube now gives millions of dollars to people exploiting children watching videos - be it slop factories or 'influencer' preying on their insecurities.

    In a just society YouTube would have been destroyed as a pseudo-monopoly ages ago.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    We're all being punished because Google's feelings got hurt when we didn't like the 2018 YouTube Rewind enough. That was the end of the dislike button and the YouTube Rewind altogether.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Back in my day, you could customize your YouTube profile and PM anyone on the platform

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    YouTube used to not have ads.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    back in my day, you posted about your life in your geocities website! And you wrote the html on notepad and had to include an animated gif that told people to email you, cause that was the style at the time.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Eh, back when GeoCities was still a thing, most people were too busy actually having a life to regularly post about it online. Since this was before smartphones, updating a social media profile was a lot more complicated and time-consuming.

    Having an active social media profile back then was often a red flag that a person was more “talk” than “walk“.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    I miss being able to tell people they suck with just one click

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    It still does.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    The dislikes were great at telling me quickly if a tutorial was good or not.

    Now you generally have to check the top comments to see if there's something wrong about the tutorial, but then YouTube started hiding those comments below ads/recommendations.

    Now I just use GrayJay and I can quickly check comments for any video.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    All I want these days is a "Don't show me any fucking AI slop" setting and a button to report AI slop.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago*

    Tidal has a no-AI button, if it helps. They've just introduced it. That's music taken care of, I guess. It's something.

    YouTube is letting people mark their videos as AI or not AI and I assume doing nothing with it? I think I've stumbled upon an AI video or two on YouTube but I didn't see any labels?

    EDIT: Oh, fuck, are they just asking us to label our videos "non-AI" so they don't train their own AI on AI slop? Fuck.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Return youtube dislike extension.

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    What pushed me to use revanced some years ago.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I seem to recall that people found that the like and dislike buttons equally improved the video’s visibility in the algorithm, causing many youtubers to genuinely suggest disliking the video as their call to action.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    That's more of an issue with their algorithm. The thing I think most people here (myself included) miss is that they used to let you know the rating on videos before you clicked them so you could see whether a given video was decent or not and therefore whether or not you should bother with some clickbait BS or not

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I hate the one-sided engagement button. It elevates trash.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Back in my day you only watched YouTube videos for tutorials on how to do stuff.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    i remember spending two hours making sure the background of my youtibe profile theme tiled correctly.

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    back in my day it was kinda easy to find interesting content

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck yourube lol, couldn't care less if the like button and the rest of the website disappeared too

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    I watch it all the time. There are a lot of really interesting niche channels run by enthusiasts who care about the content. I like how ordinary people can have a chance to build a following without having had to be green lit by suits in a boardroom first. Plenty of garbage too, but still plenty worth watching.

    Also good for sports highlights.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    gvid.tv has a downvote button. And it actually does something useful.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    As was the style at the time…

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Now you will like everything

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    YouTube music still does, at least

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Uh, it very clearly has a dislike button still?

    Maybe it's time for a cool refreshing glass of turnip juice.

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