Despite the click-baitish title, this brings up a lot of good points.
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What continues to happen with headlines should worry us all
The situation is catastrophic but not serious

In this case, we are a little behind schedule, but working to rapidly catch up.
In the Cyberpunk TTRPG universe, the original internet (known as the Net) collapsed during a catastrophic event called the DataKrash, which occurred on June 3, 2022.
Poor title, but pretty interesting article. The future of the internet is going to be wild.
What future?
I meant the Internet doesn't have a future, it's already half dead
Oh.
The Internet itself surely will continue, but yes the "free and open" version is already gone (how to test this: attempt to self-host a website now, like a Lemmy instance, and see how long until AI scrapers bring it to its knees).
I don't think so. I think it's going to fragment a la cyberpunk... It's beginning already through a mixture of government controls and profiteering. Large enough platforms will still exist everywhere, but I think we're going to end up with more regional networks
I think youll still be able to route a package across the world, but the age where you could access the same Internet from everywhere is ending
eh, i don't think things'll have time to regress that far before the pendulum swings back, plus it's only getting easier to set up your own connections over long distances.
What i can see disappearing are things like youtube and global multiplayer gaming, because that's just so incredibly data-heavy. But lightweight stuff like sane websites, forums, chats.. that's quite feasible on something like a globally interconnected mesh. At worst you'll have to wait a bit for things to load, but like.. we would probably benefit from that..
Yea, like the matrix, the Internet is now an intrinsically dangerous place where anyone is potentially some highly capable AI with potentially very malicious intent.
Context:
If you work in or around the film industry, there is a decent chance you have used the work of The Numbers this month, whether you realise it or not.
Its hand-researched data is the highest quality, tracking box office grosses, budgets, home video and streaming across more than 78,000 films and 236,000 people. It gets north of eight million visitors a year, and is treated as THE definitive authority by journalists, academics, filmmakers, prediction markets, and even Guinness World Records.
AI tools are some of the most powerful and destructive things humans have ever created. And they are being effectively tested by the public in real time in the real world. When the Manhattan Project was trying to work out the power of their atomic tech, they did not do so by sending everyone the specs each morning and seeing which houses blew up.
Honestly, this. In their desperate attempt to break even, AI companies are throwing everything they can at the wall to see what sticks, without any due regard as to its effects on society at large...
Which unfortunately have proven time and time again to be horribly corrosive towards human culture.
TL;DR
AI scraped it to death on behalf of prediction markets. They couldn't handle the load.
A year ago, Cloudflare launched pay-per-crawl, letting sites charge AI crawlers per page. Last week, it went further, announcing a pay-per-use model in which publishers get paid when their content actually appears in an AI answer, and declaring that, from 15 September, its customers’ ad-supported pages will block unpaid “mixed-use” crawlers by default.
I'd be OK paying a subscription fee to access websites.
Two BIG problems though:
a) my anonymity b) conglomeration of websites into increasingly enshittified monopolies.
Correct, but if humans get in free and bots don't, bots will pretend to be human. The only way it works ultimately is if every access is charged.
A year ago, Cloudflare launched pay-per-crawl, letting sites charge AI crawlers per page. Last week, it went further, announcing a pay-per-use model in which publishers get paid when their content actually appears in an AI answer, and declaring that, from 15 September, its customers’ ad-supported pages will block unpaid “mixed-use” crawlers by default.
Whether any of this works depends on whether the AI companies play along rather than route around it. But as Bruce put it to me, somebody has to try.
How come none of these sites being hit by AI to the point they can't function implement rate limiting?
Rate limiting grouped by IP or UA tends to work pretty well, and normal users have very slow request rates so generally never get impacted.
Residential proxies are a thing.
Also speaking from experience, especially asia based crawlers will send 5 requests at once from one IP, then 5 from the next etc. and the first IP wont appear again for several hours, making ip based rate limiting useless.
In my case i have honeypot links that block them, i block several data center adress ranges, have an automated whitelist for registered users, use some public blocklists and user agent filtering and that takes care of 99% of it. But it is non-trivial compared to rate limiting.
True, I also run crowdsec which blocks excessive 404s and other unusual requests too, between that and rate limiting I don't seem to have any server overload issues for the most part.
In the article they talk about getting hit by millions of different IPs. It's probably on a different level compared to what a random, non-targeted site has to deal with.
A few years back when graphics cards were getting botted for resale, a friend of a friend was buying with bots using a (pricey) rotating list of hundreds of proxy addresses that would each make attempts at a very reasonable looking frequency. I'm picturing something like that, except with much more funding.
I'm having a hard time blaming this entirely on Ai. We're talking about a 30 year old site that has probably never had a proper redesign (front and back end). Of course it's eventually going to be compromised.
Some of these used the site using legitimate URLs, others were looking for back doors, most likely so they could get to the data before it appeared on the site, or to manipulate the data presented to users.
I'm sure they know what they're doing, making me very wrong, but bots probing for back doors is very common, and not at all anything to be concerned about. The attackers most likely don't even care about the data, all they want is another site to spread malware or to join their botnet.
AI scrapers can be brutal though, and is very relevant.
This doesn't say anything.
Why did the server crash? Who knows!
Did it crash because of ai scrapers? Maybe! It was definitely stressed by them.
Was the server hacked? No idea!
If it was hacked, was it an attempt to rig prediction markets? Sounds plausible!
This nebulous theorizing really is worrying me! I'm worried for the critical thinking capacity of every commenter. Sure, ai bot traffic is a problem, the entire internet is dealing with it, but its tenuous link to TheNumbers.com mystery is merely clickbait journalism without any sourcing.
Man this sucks. Feels like we've lost the internet to the capitalists. I find myself at least once a day reacting to something with a "man the internet used to be actually good"

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