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[–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

That will work for 5 minutes.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Just like the thorn thing, we're gonna hinder the disabled before we hinder the bots

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I don't see why, since this is a font any text written in it will be read correctly by any tts, only in screenshots will it be unreadable to bots, this wouldn't even be an issue for camera images as they will bot be sharp enough to capture the lines properly.

    But for this reason, this is also why it is kind of useless

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago

    Well... tbh, i have good vision and i can't read it easily. I don't think it'll work and if it does it won't foe very long, it's just a cool design thing making a statment while potentially looking good on a poster

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Do not like

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  • 37 comments in c/technology@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 85 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Well look at that, it works!!

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I've found circle to search on android can read both variations depending on how you select the image

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  • In selection 2, you don't seem to be selecting an image. You're selecting text.

    In method 1, it's doing OCR. In method 2, its just reading the raw text data you selected. This is how you can copy text from thing A and Font A, and paste it into thing B with font B (depending on Thing B's paste settings)

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Here’s the text my phone extracted from that image:

    FUCK THE POUXCE

    What does this say?

    It says "THIN BLUE LINE."

    The word BLUE is split between the second and third lines:

    THIN

    BLU

    ELINE

    β€’β€’β€’

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago

    Well, I’m glad that we now have a font that makes it look like I’m not wearing my glasses… when I’m wearing my glasses.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It works at full resolution, but it's a cat and mouse game. If something like this becomes popular, then all that needs to be done is to start passing images through a filter first (blur, lower resolution, etc.), or just train a new vision model that can pick out both the blurred message as well as the decoy message.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago

    This is art

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    Clever as fuck

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Most AI systems work by reading the pixels of an image up close

    In the case of text aren't LLM’s reading actual text ?Whats the usecase here ? For any text I dont want to be readable by ai scrapers and such, I need to use this font and render as image(s)?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    This is not for the case of using text, it's for protecting text in images. The problem with adding invisible text is that LLMs can defeat it by screenshotting and using OCR. This tries to plug that loophole.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    Person: does something impressive against AI Comments: it's bad because it's not perfect

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Top points for effort, but if it's making it hard to read even 2 words.. I'd rather poison/prompt inject via invisible text and not make any humans cross-eyed trying to read that font

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Invisible text doesn't work for images though, which is what this is specific for. Invisible text is also defeated by taking a screenshot, so if you use this too then you have a chance of defeating both LLMs that read the text as well as those that screenshot and OCR.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I think this is the first step in an arms race between fonts that can't be read by computers and systems to differentiate between obfuscated text.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Good luck to the visually impaired and their screen readers.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    Screen readers read text directly, the point of this is to be used in images, which screen readers don’t read anyway.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Facedeer is a bad faith troll and AI evangelist, in case anybody is wondering why he's pretending to care about accessibility.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Ahh, that explains the willful ignorance.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    By "bad faith troll and AI evangelist" XLE means "someone I disagree with about this topic, and therefore that I follow around obsessively accusing of being a troll."

    He's really rather sad that way, I notice that every thread I've been in over the past few days with any relation to AI he's been adding this comment to. Guess he noticed me again. At least he's stopped calling me a literal bot or accusing me of being "from Reddit" as if that meant something nefarious.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    My iPhone reads text from images. I wonder how it’d do with this?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You can take a screenshot or save the image directly. My iPhone reads the blurry text without issue, so this may be more related to LLMs in particular, or of the image is compressed before the analysis, the illusion is broken

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    And if this sort of font became common (and actually kept working) then screen readers never would be able to read these. The point remains that accessibility is being sacrificed for the sake of some kind of general "anti-AI" movement.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    There's no way this will become common. Non-visually impaired people don't want to read like that either.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Back when generative image AIs first came into general awareness with Dalle-3 and Stable Diffusion and so forth, there was a fad of changing image alt text into deliberately misleading nonsense. Which, of course, was not great for the visually impaired back then either. It was ineffective and short lived, but it's still pretty annoying seeing people proudly declaring their intent to make things deliberately difficult for people who rely on technology for this kind of stuff. So IMO worth pointing out.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    This hurts my eyes, I see both at the same time πŸ€”

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Works better if you have crappy vision.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I think i might be a cylon. πŸ€–

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    We can't be writing like this, fuck AI. We tailor our language to avoid sounding like it, analysis images to tell if it had been generated and now using fonts to avoid scraping. What a toxic, horrible invention. An invention that freely takes from workers, repackages it, and monetizes it all for a small class of capitalists while depriving the majority of its value created.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Doesn't work on a dark background ? The decoy text is invisible..

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  • 8 comments in c/typography@lemmy.ml view that post
    [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    This sounds awful for accessibility tools such as screen readers.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago*

    Story checks out in Gemini

    Gemini says:

    The text in the image reads:

    TAJS GBNFBNCB JS

    WKJIYBN JN BBCDY FONT

    …but man does it hurt my eyes to read

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, do people think robots use OCR to spy on them? They have access to the actual unicode symbols. They know that an A is an A regardless if it's displayed as Arial, Times New Roman or Wing Dings. Is there a subculture somewhere that people only communicate through text as images?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    It might be useful in some countries where the prevalent unencrypted messaging app is preventively scanning every single image before actually delivering it to the recipient, and silently dropping it if some forbidden keywords are found

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I know this has good intentions but this is pretty much an accessibility nightmare

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    Just looking at the happy human/sorry robot image, it doesn't work as well if the image is large (at least for me), the outline of the decoy message starts to take visual priority over the real message especially if you don't know what it is. With no additional context, I definitely read sorry robot on first glance with the image at phone's width and didn't realise that's not the actual message until I read the description. Seems to work when the letters are smaller though.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I feel like this can be easily cracked if you downscale it down to only a few pixels per letter. Then the decoy letters get filtered out and the human letters lose their blur

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  • 8 comments in c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's so inexplicable to me that the anti-AI font was created by an AI company, of all things... Like, clearly if you make something like this, you understand that we're sick of AI nonsense. And yet!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Obviously, this would only work on images. Otherwise the AI can read the text without the font or the ocr metadata if in PDF format.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    This doesn't really make sense to me. The way text is displayed is for the human reader, but the underlying text is computer (and AI) readable. You can use Wingdings to write your blog, and only the AI will know what you wrote. This seems like a play.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I'd love to know how well it works in practice.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago
    4 comments in c/typography@lemmy.ca view that post
    [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Me trying to listen to content with my a11y screen reader

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    This seems like it'd be pretty good for obfuscating email addresses from crawlers. At small point sizes the real text is extremely obvious to a human, but both LLM OCR and pytesseract was failing to extract the real text from this image

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  • 1 comment in c/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se view that post
    [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Sappy roban

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