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[–] 37 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

It's true. I used to be pretty anti-China. I mean the CCP seemed like they were setting up as the primary antagonist for the geopolitical meta, at least from the Canadian perspective.

But then the States goes all "hold my fuckin' beer" and kicks us in the balls from behind. So yeah.. Fuck you, USA.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    How does it make China better when the U.S. gets worse? It's sad, but China is still much worse than the U.S., it's just that the China Communist Party has already the country's media and its citizen under full censorship control, while Trump is aiming at that.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    The US has betrayed our long-standing friendship. It's not about who objectively has the most human rights violations and geopolitical power abuses on record, and this is truly debatable in the case of assessing these two.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think it's really debatable. The US is far worse than China.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    China isn't putting tariffs on us or threatening to invade and their ambassador isn't a giant asshole who keeps insulting us, so yeah.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I mean, thats a low low low bar

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    As a 'Murican, I can't hardly blame them.

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    [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    According to the survey linked in the article,

    one area where the U.S. still gets higher ratings than China has to do with personal freedoms: More say the U.S. government respects the personal freedoms of its people than say the same of the Chinese government.

    Pew Research did also a survey to find out how views of the U.S. and China compare specifcally in Latin America:

    • Views of China are now slightly more positive than views of the U.S., due largely to worsening views of the U.S.
    • People generally lack confidence in both Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping to do the right thing regarding world affairs.
    • People are much more likely to say the U.S. interferes in the affairs of other countries than they are to say the same of China, but the two superpowers are seen in a fairly similar light when it comes to their reliability as a partner and contributions to global peace and stability.

    All in all it is a more balanced view and doesn't serve the Chinese propaganda.

    What is absolutely missing in my humble opinion is how the U.S. and China compare to European countries, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and all the other democracies. The choice between Donald Trump and Xi Jinping is just a bit like the choice between the plague and cholera. But that's just my opinion, maybe I am mistaken.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    There isn’t a third option at this point though. China’s advanced fabs should be coming online by the end of the decade and will have a fully integrated supply chain. Especially since they found the silica they need. Which until last month was an absolute monopoly controlled by the USA.

    So you really have only two choices. The West or China.

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  • [+] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    At this point this isn't even a matter of speculation. Harvard's been tracking domestic opinions through independent polling since the early 2000s. The tables in the report span to 2016:

    Sadly no newer data but as you can see there's a positive trend across levels of gov't with pretty high satisfaction across the board. Would be nice to see where these numbers are today, after COVID, the real estate bubble and the Trump trade war.

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  • [+] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    That's not to say there aren't plenty problems but I think they got decent chances to solve or navigate many of them. For example managing their hard-on for Taiwan without resorting to war. Managing the decline of the US without war is another big challenge.

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  • [+] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    Oh yeah, I get all that. A CCP Taiwan would have been treated like Cuba and probably had similar if not worse fate given what happened with other left revolutions in the region.

    That said, the history since then has created facts on the ground that Taiwan is independent at present and has had some form of democracy for 30 odd years. I personally would prefer for people in Taiwan to decide on whether to go independent, stay status quo or move towards unification. If China keeps developing as it has in the past, I think there's a good chance that in a couple of decades Taiwanese people could decide to unify. There's always gonna be unhappy people either way. Such is democracy. And any other system for that matter.

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