It's like corporations don't know how to do anything but enshittify anymore
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Don't forget that they've halted PC ports for their games, including shitcanning nearly-complete work on Ghost of Yōtei.
They'll probably keep releasing for the PS5 for years into the PS6's lifespan, so as long as that happens I'll get their games if they look good, but once they shift over to PS6 completely, I'm done. I already have the hardware, much cheaper to keep using it than to get something new.
PS4 is my last PlayStation. Can't even recall the last time I powered it up on purpose.
Good call. If you didn't get a PS5 at launch price, it certainly won't ever be worth getting one, or any future PS console.
Honestly, I regret wasting my money on the PS4.
You might be able to jailbreak it! I have a collection of consoles that I got only to tinker with. I keep up to date with the PS5/PS4 through MODDED WARFARE on Youtube. Might give you something to make it useful for you, even if it is just to run Linux on it. :P
Out of curiosity, why did you get one?
There were several PS4-exclusive games coming out that I was really looking forward to,and I was expecting many more; furthermore, I thought it might be handy to have something with built-in optical media support. Most of those original titles were re-released for PC, my future hopes never really materialized, and I never used the optical drive except to insert a disc for DRM purposes.
Honestly even if you got it launch price, it wasn't worth it. Mine's collected dust since launch
Depends, it's been worth it for me as it's more powerful than my PC and was much cheaper than building a similar power one would have been at the time. But if you already have a powerful PC, yeah, definitely not worth it.
Yeah, I really only got mine for Ragnarok. and as an upgrade to my 4k player. Which I then proceeded to only use detective Pikachu in. So, definitely not my brightest usage of money.
They are also lobbying to make hosting your own videogame server illegal: https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/esa-bafflingly-declares-private-minecraft-servers-illegal-in-stop-killing-games-hearing-we-consider-it-piracy-we-have-lawsuits/
Sony is part of ESA.
So is Microsoft who owns Minecraft who definitely presents private servers as dangerous (which for children may very well be true).
Having the possibility to setup a server allowed me to setup one for my sons and I. I’d rather have that then them going online…
You would think that's what every parent would prefer....
Both because it’s more safe and secure. Plus I have very fond memories of LAN parties and without private servers and local multiplayer kids won’t be able to experience that :(
Don't worry, they'll still be able to drink a bunch of cough syrup and think they're really hanging out chatting with random people on forums and Pink Floyd and Abe Lincoln, and then get genuinely lost in a game for what seems like eternity but can only ever be vaguely recalled later.
So are bicycles and kitchen knives. Ffs
That was kind of my point?
That just because it's "dangerous" for children doesn't justify banning it wholesale. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
Yet Microsoft allows people access to host a private server while also putting up scary warnings for kids telling them to stick to the "safe" realms servers or whatever (are they even still called Realms? fuck if I know). On the one hand, it's good they haven't removed it entirely, on the other hand, it seems like that may be their eventual long-term goal with how they treat the private server ecosystem.
I also think Discord and Roblox contributed to people not knowing what the fuck "server" actually means anymore.
definitely end of an era.
I'm not buying a console without physical media.
Sony can kill the second hand market if they want, but that was the last thing that differentiated them from Steam. Good bye Playstation, i'll remember you fondly.
Its like they saw how much Xbox has been sucking and thought "hold on, instead of building on this market lead, I bet we could beat Xbox in enshittifying!"
Ever since the PS3 and Xbox 360, it's like the console wars have just been about them trading whose turn it was for the next PR disaster. Racing to the top was too expensive so they race to the bottom instead.
It helps when you get that their goals and ours are not really the same. They want to earn more money, and don't need to provide a perfect service to achieve that. They just need to be (slightly) less shitty than Xbox.
probably going to complain when steam/valve is the only competitor making bank. MS wasted all thier money on trying to make AI work.
End of an era for just about everything. Streaming is all enshitified. The job market is shit. Democracy is falling apart. Decades of progress being undone. It's just the way it will be until people get sick of all this shit and start doing things differently and move on. All the great old companies are dead. Either turned to zombie brands or run by zombies. I remember how excited I was to buy my first Sony Trinitron, my first walkman, my Sony component stereo, first PlayStation.
At some point Sony bought a Movie Studio in the US and a few years afterwards the company leadership started coming from their Media division instead of their Engineering division.
This was in the early 00s.
That was when Sony started enshittifying, with things like locking down their consumer devices (not just to block copying but also to do things like segment markets via region locking) and at one point they even shipped Music CDs with a PC Rootkit (the infamous "Sony Rootkit" scandal).
IMHO, Sony was maybe one of the first large companies to start enshittifying.
I've actually been boycotting Sony since then, so roughly for 2 decades now.
Technofascists running/ruining the world
Capitalism contains the seeds of its own destruction. Enshittification is the inevitable result of shareholders demanding endless growth at all costs.
I could just as well point to dumb people giving them their money as the reason. At the end it is more complicated than such a simplistic reductions.
Victim blaming is never a good take.
Not really, no.
Infinite growth is impossible on a finite planet.
Growth in this context isn't measured by physical objects; it's an increase in subjective value. So we've experienced high growth since the stone age, even though we've gotten almost no new stones.
While I agree in practice (and the resultant harm is real), in theory mathematical limits exist. (And this is without appealing to the idea that humans might eventually not be limited to a single planet.)
Don't forget they also paid $3.6 Billion for Bungie just to shut down their most popular game and put all their hope in their new extraction shooter that's been struggling. No new games in dev or even green lit. Also they just laid off a bunch of people.
This one is more on the Bungie side of things. Bungie got a few lifelines and STILL fumbled.
Imagine if Bungie never "vaulted" (read: deleted) any part of Destiny 2 and we were still able to play the original campaign it shipped with? More people would still be playing Destiny 2 and you'd get plenty more new players without them having to use a guide or YouTube lore videos to get caught up on the story.
Instead of mArathon they'd probably be making a Destiny 3
Oh yeah don't get me started on Bungie. The are a shell of their former selves. When they split from Activison and it all came out that the mircotransactions was all Bungie's idea that was my first WTF moment with these guys. They let us believe it was the Corp overlords ruining our game but they did it themselves. Then they did everything they could do to make themselves look profitable for Sony's acquisition. Just horrible decision after horrible decision.
Yeah Bungie management has been atrocious since at least the first Halo. Possibly from their beginning. It's honestly a miracle they've managed to release so many decently sized hits despite being mismanaged to hell and back for each and every single one.
What really sucks is that Marathon is actually pretty fun.
They just completely fumbled the marketing and launch, the UI needs to be cleaned up, and it doesn't feel worth it at $40. IDC if it's a AAA developer, it's still a pretty small game content wise even if it is fun to play.
Destiny got what it deserved. I can't believe it lasted as long as it did. I noped after they started charging $40 for a couple maps and a raid labeled as "expansions". And that was destiny 1. The game was an unbelievable ripoff.
Can't believe people still stuck with it even after they locked down the legacy content. It's crazy how much it takes to get people to stop buying enshittified products.
I agree I don't blame Sony at all. Also I hate myself for it but for me no FPS I've played comes close to the fluid gunplay in Destiny and Destiny 2. That is where Bungie always shined for me above everyone else. The rebooted Doom games are a close 2nd. and there are a few indie titles like Turbo Overkill that get close as well. Everything else just doesn't match up when I get that FPS itch.
Oh I know, the gunplay in destiny really was incredible. And the music and atmosphere was top notch, even though the size of the game and story didn't live up to the prelaunch hype.
It was hard to walk away but I couldn't justify overpaying for dlc that should've been $10, maybe $15 at most.
Time to double down on retro gaming and buying second hand. Industry wants to burn I say let it.
Plenty of old, cheap games and consoles to pick up second hand. Don't need PlayStation's slop.
The carts, discs, and hardware will unfortunately eventually stop working, but fortunately most of them can also be emulated on PC really well, sometimes better looking than on original hardware.
Disc systems are mostly built like shit especially from the early 2000s but ROM based cart systems if well taken care of will run for a long long time.
Have my OG N64, Dreamcast and GameGear all run perfectly fine. Well my GG has a dead spider in the screen but it still runs.
PlayStation 1,2, Saturns , the first 2 Xbox’s might be a different issue all together.
But to me this is connected to the growing eshitification of the industry
Yeah, it's popular to mod systems like PSX and Saturn with a disc read emulator so you can load ISO files from solid state media like SD cards.
eventually but that will likely be long after most of us are dead. old consoles and carts are built like a brick house and most of them are repairable even games that have batteries. Just look at the N64 for example. that thing is like the Toyata truck of consoles.
Could be. Video game consoles are a young medium, so hard to say if the old consoles will still be going in 30 years or so.
I've found that the real problem is having a television to plug them in to. Still got my old NES and SNES from when I was a kid. But no modern TV has the RF input to connect them to, they're all digital only. Emulation is much easier.
that's what i hate the most about this. "retro gaming and second hand" works now because everything was physical back then, and could be preserved. what will the people of the future have of us? nothing but memories of what will then be a digital graveyard. most of it unpreserved, even through piracy, because consoles are getting harder and harder to hack and emulate and companies are getting more and more litigious.
It warms my heart to see that EVERY comment on Sony's blog post about it is negative. Hope the decision ends up biting Sony in the ass, but even if not, at least people weren't silent about it.
EDIT: and they're being yelled at everywhere else on the internet that people can post as well. Good.
So, this means mandatory proprietary hardware just to play the four or five true permanent exclusives that will be on the PS6 throughout its entire lifetime, given that everything else will eventually come to PC, and you don't actually own any of your digital content, meaning that they can revoke your access to your purchases without notice at any point if they choose to do so.
People will still buy it though, that's the saddest part.
They've already said they've stopped porting to PC
They have but others have not. GTA will come to PC. GoW Faye likely wont.
I'd rather wait and emulate the next spiderman and Wolverine game tbh.
Actually, the 2026 strategy and business environment report from Sony simply removed the line "Will continue its efforts to deploy its first-party titles to multiple platforms such as PC" from their priorities list, but did not outright state that they won't port games to PC anymore, as many journalists misinterpreted, the report simply states that it isn't a priority anymore due to mitigated revenue. The main concern within the report seems to be that near simultaneous releases on PC are effectively cannibalizing PS5 hardware sales, so you might still expect PC releases but further down the line compared to the current 1-2 years window, maybe previous generation games released on PC, not current generation.
For now, yes. But these companies change their strategies all the fucking time. As soon as they see their "only on Playstation" strategy is not giving them the expected return, I am sure they're gonna backflip, again.
Microsoft and Sony (and pretty much any other big corporation in the game business) are not reliable in the slightest - the only difference between them right now is the amount of power they have.
I find it both amusing and shocking that we still have 'fanboys' up to this day, when these companies themselves can't even maintain a solid long term strategy. All they care about is making maximum profit at the cost of literally everything else, so their 'promises' hold no weight at all.
I’m not one of those people who pretends they will play a physical disc game for the rest of their life
I do however like physical for two reasons. Firstly, the price, how tf can you justify charging more when you are cutting out all of the middlemen and listing on your own online store. Secondly, resale. I can buy a game, play it and resell.
If the tradeoff on going digital was that games were 50% cheaper, then I’d be happy. I wouldn’t have to hoard games and I’d have the convenience of digital.
Yeah, that’s the end of PlayStation for me. Hopefully someone else will come out with something decent.
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