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[–] 220 points 11 months ago (30 children)

In grad school I remember being encouraged to submit a paper to a journal that would have charged me a few hundred dollars to put it in for peer review, and I told my advisor no, I needed to buy groceries, I would not throw my money away for an extra line on my CV. He got all flustered and it was a great example of why higher education is so fucked. My advisor, who ostensibly understood my background and means, could not understand how such a relatively small fee would be so prohibitive. He was incapable of understanding that I was essentially unemployed while enrolled as his grad student, and every dollar of funding went to bare essentials so I could continue breathing. He had access to discretionary funds for this exact kind of issue (I found out later), and didn’t think to offer.

Without independent wealth and deep personal connections it’s incredibly difficult to succeed in academia, regardless of the quality of your research.

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  • [–] 57 points 11 months ago

    I got lucky in that my publication was through a journal that doesn't charge money for access or submissions. It's part of our professional organization and our annual membership fees cover the journal's expenses.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Really needs to be a wikipedia style service for academic papers.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 32 points 11 months ago* (12 children)

    Without independent wealth and deep personal connections it’s incredibly difficult to succeed in academia, regardless of the quality of your research.

    Always has been, why do you think he's called SIR Isaac Newton?

    EDIT : Turns out his knighthood was afterwards, but he did have connections. There are several examples of science being the domain of already rich people.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Also, Newton was not born with the connection, he made them in Grantham. He had a very strained relationship with his mother and step father and was raised by his grandmother.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I was talking about his uncle that gave him an in for University

    His uncle the Reverend William Ayscough, who had studied at Cambridge, recommended him to the university.

    But I just read that shit off wikipedia so, I'm no scholar. 🤷

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (8 children)
    • Neils Bohr, from a Jewish/Danish banking family.
    • James Clark Maxwell inherited land and wealth in Scotland.
    • Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz… look at the size of the wig on the man!
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  • [+] -9 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Neils Bohr, from a Jewish/Danish banking family.

    come on man, don't start with something distasteful even if it's true.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    Judaism is distasteful?

    Or is it the Danes?

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  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Jewish banking and etc are tied to many (false) conspiracy theories. Me mentioning science has been part of the elites and immediately tying someone who happened to have a family that had bankers that were jewish ties into that in a distasteful/false/etc way.

    I'm sure it's not intentional, but I don't like giving these idiots more fuel for their fire

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Jewish banking is a legacy of antisemitic Christian doctrine in Medieval Europe that restricted the Hebrew people only to professions proscribed (as usury) to Christians such as financial services. Their prevalence in those professions is a historic consequence of discrimination of no fault to the Hebrew people, and acknowledging that reality isn't necessarily distasteful or false.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I don't like giving these idiots more fuel for their fire

    You're that idiot. Using every little fact as an attack on your worldview isn't healthy. Israel is using that same defense, while creating very powerful connections to censor and shape world politics.

    https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking-jeffrey-epstein-peter-thiel-israeli-officials/

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-politicians-slam-lammy-over-unannounced-meeting-israeli-foreign-minister

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/07/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-caught-on-camera-plotting-to-take-down-uk-mps

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsvjFKGsDg4

    Is is wrong to point that out now too?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Highlighting Jewish banking is anti-semitic. You are correct to challenge this.

    But it's mainly one particular family tied to the conspiracy theories (many attribute to a pamphlet printed by Georges Dairnvaell). Ethnicity should not be a shield against scrutiny and criticism.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Uuhh, beyond the fucked up publishing system, your advisor was a self destructive dick. It was his job to pay that. His lab and career benefit and hes the one that gets funding for research operations.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In grad school your institution should be paying for fees like that. If the school itself isn't paying, then doesn't the supervisor have a grant they can file it under?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    thats why its so gatekeeped, cant get a career in biotech, research you have to be published at some point, very few get it at undergrad let alone trying to get lab experience or even an INTERNSHIP. thats why most bio majors are health and not something as convoluted as research. its a cascading problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    My advisor, who ostensibly understood my background and means, could not understand how such a relatively small fee would be so prohibitive.

    No advisor expects a student to pay publication charges. My lab pays about $10,000/yr into this racket.

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