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Stupid sexy raft (mander.xyz)
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[–] 226 points 11 months ago (46 children)

I tgink I heard of that. Didn't the "scientist" just like self isolate, angry that they didn't fight eachother, while the other passengers became lifelong friends and had a great time?

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  • [–] 315 points 11 months ago (34 children)

    It went beyond that. In an attempt to ferment discontent in the group he started reading their reports out loud. Airing all their dirty laundry. Instead of getting them mad at each other he basically forced them to settle all their issues and form together, closer than ever. After that didn't work he started trying to usurp authority from the captain that he selected because he thought as a woman she would crumble under the pressure of command. His greatest accomplishment as the new captain was damaging a fuel line and failing to fix it by swimming in the fuel and water.

    If I remember correctly they had to rescue him and distract him while they fixed it themselves and after that he basically sulked in the corner of the raft. Only getting the balls to try something near the end of the experiment, trying to Shanghai the raft and expand the experiment to try and force his theories into reality. After they finally got back the subjects would get together every few years to relive the good old days without him.

    It's ironic, by trying to get them to hate each other he accidentally became something for all of them to rally against.

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  • [–] 147 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    ferment discontent

    I'm stealing this typo.

    (It's "foment", but I love the imagery of rotten, festering discontent)

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    You know, you reminded me of a vague memory. Making that same mistake in school, being corrected, and deciding that I liked it better my way. I was a stubborn child.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It is 100% better your way.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Fermenting is usually when you make something rot in a specific way that makes something delicious. In that vein I propose it be applied to the exact sort of situation on the raft where someone tries to forment a discontent raft and accidentally fermented a friend ship.

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  • [–] 50 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    That's awesome. Like he was really hoping for some dismal and dark exposé on "savage human nature" a la "Lord of the Flies", and at every turn, proven wrong by people who were happy to just get along and cooperate for mutual benefit...

    ... Which should come as a complete shock, social species that we are! /s

    I think these desperately dark tales of people turning on each other in sociological contexts is another propaganda tool to put this idea in our heads that without "qualified leaders" we'd all just be grunting and beating each other over the head with rocks.

    Nah, someone with something to gain has to motivate us to fight each other. What if we just said "lol, anyway" and kept getting along on the raft?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Lord of the Flies was also a direct answer to a book that was really popular during England's colonial hey day(?) called the Island, I think.

    Basically, English colonial culture wasn't as good as we might have thought.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That social bond doesn't scale and it is why have had to invent government, police, schools, hospitals, etc. The guy's idea was right (imo), he just had the wrong scale.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I mostly agree with the other *homey about “foment.”

    I just want to add that all of the social experiments I’ve ever seen, *participated in, and/or ran nothing brings people together like a common enemy.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    So... did this scientists great grandchildren invent reality TV?

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Fun fact a lot of people, including myself, believe the invention of reality TV was actually the writer strike in early 2000s. Basically TV writers went to the producers and said "you make all these millions and only pay us this small amount when we are the reason people watch these shows". The producers basically said "fuck you we will make TV shows without writers"

    That created reality TV in America and panel shows in the UK.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It’s ironic, by trying to get them to hate each other he accidentally became something for all of them to rally against.

    Like reverse Stockholm syndrome.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    It goes to show that humans are actually good to each other on an individual level or in small groups.

    It's when we place ourselves in massive groups and communities of thousands or millions or billions of people that we start to act terribly to other humans.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    "tribalism" being the word we use to label when a civilization engages in pointless violence when it's tribes that avoid this bullshit naturally by excluding the waste of time members of society who try to break society is so frustrating to me

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    In all fairness, tribes did occasionally fight.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    sure. but tribes didn't often engage in systematic eliminations. genocide is something civilizations do

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like projection from the incel scientists.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    the perverted ones yea, scientists usually dont have trouble finding SOs. i remember reading a book about prion research and one of them has a "unusual predilection towards young boys, in SE asia" where he was studying kuru, although the book dint come out in say it, they were implying he was a pedo. i believed he worked for a well known university in a UC.

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