▲ 459 ▼ ANTI PEE PAINT (mander.xyz) submitted 1 year ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 123 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (16 children) How many are enough? https://allinmap.app/en/map/toilets/hamburg?visible_marker=toilet https://www.stadtreinigung.hamburg/stadtsauberkeit/oeffentliche-toiletten/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not nearly enough, especially near the transit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago "The transit"? There is transit all over Hamburg and there are three directly outside the Hauptbahnhof. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 28 points 1 year ago (12 children) If people are still peeing in the street there, then it's not enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 26 points 1 year ago (4 children) I don't understand how hard that is to understand for some people. I have never met someone who'd rather piss in the streets than in a toilet if given the choice. The answer is always, always, ALWAYS "not enough free, clean, accessible toilets" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) The answer is drunk people. I was once walking home with a drunk housemate who pissed in the street a few minutes away from home. Also "clean" does not enter into it. The street is not clean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A few minutes can make a difference in wet vs dry pants, especially when there's 15 beers inside you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Iambus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You haven't met enough drunk people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) So to you it is axiomatic that the problem is insufficient toilets. You cannot understand that there are people - usually drunk - who will not use a toilet unless they are already inside it. It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination, so maybe a multi-pronged approach including discouraging people from doing so is more sensible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) We've already been doing the later. And how has that been working out? You are correct, that I cannot understand something that I've never seen, or even heard of. I've seen shitfaced people stumble into restrooms pretty frequently. I've never seen someone say "I know there is a toilet less than a block from here, but I'd rather piss on the wall!". But I hear the opposite all the time: "Man, I wish I didn't have to piss out here, but the nearest toilet is a mile away". It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination... Citation needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I have been walking home with someone who pissed in the street less than a block (I don't live in the US, we don't have blocks, but it was a couple of minutes) away from home. Cmon, use that imagination of yours to go beyond what you have directly experienced. Remember too that all drunk people have come from somewhere with a working toilet, because places that serve alcohol have toilets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe the place was closing. Maybe they didn't need to go at the time. Maybe the toilet didn't work. Maybe they just pee a lot. Guilty as charged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Iambus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Stop making excuses. If people are still peeing on the streets they are lazy drunken degenerates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago i've seen more studies saying the answer is more free toilets that i've seen everyone is just lazy degenerates. in fact. i haven't seen any studies that concluded everyone is just lazy degenerates. maybe i'm reading the wrong studies? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kaki@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago Most of these are not free, according to your second link. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not nearly enough, especially near the transit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago "The transit"? There is transit all over Hamburg and there are three directly outside the Hauptbahnhof. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago "The transit"? There is transit all over Hamburg and there are three directly outside the Hauptbahnhof. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 28 points 1 year ago (12 children) If people are still peeing in the street there, then it's not enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 26 points 1 year ago (4 children) I don't understand how hard that is to understand for some people. I have never met someone who'd rather piss in the streets than in a toilet if given the choice. The answer is always, always, ALWAYS "not enough free, clean, accessible toilets" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) The answer is drunk people. I was once walking home with a drunk housemate who pissed in the street a few minutes away from home. Also "clean" does not enter into it. The street is not clean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A few minutes can make a difference in wet vs dry pants, especially when there's 15 beers inside you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Iambus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You haven't met enough drunk people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) So to you it is axiomatic that the problem is insufficient toilets. You cannot understand that there are people - usually drunk - who will not use a toilet unless they are already inside it. It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination, so maybe a multi-pronged approach including discouraging people from doing so is more sensible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) We've already been doing the later. And how has that been working out? You are correct, that I cannot understand something that I've never seen, or even heard of. I've seen shitfaced people stumble into restrooms pretty frequently. I've never seen someone say "I know there is a toilet less than a block from here, but I'd rather piss on the wall!". But I hear the opposite all the time: "Man, I wish I didn't have to piss out here, but the nearest toilet is a mile away". It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination... Citation needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I have been walking home with someone who pissed in the street less than a block (I don't live in the US, we don't have blocks, but it was a couple of minutes) away from home. Cmon, use that imagination of yours to go beyond what you have directly experienced. Remember too that all drunk people have come from somewhere with a working toilet, because places that serve alcohol have toilets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe the place was closing. Maybe they didn't need to go at the time. Maybe the toilet didn't work. Maybe they just pee a lot. Guilty as charged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Iambus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Stop making excuses. If people are still peeing on the streets they are lazy drunken degenerates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago i've seen more studies saying the answer is more free toilets that i've seen everyone is just lazy degenerates. in fact. i haven't seen any studies that concluded everyone is just lazy degenerates. maybe i'm reading the wrong studies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MBech@feddit.dk 26 points 1 year ago (4 children) I don't understand how hard that is to understand for some people. I have never met someone who'd rather piss in the streets than in a toilet if given the choice. The answer is always, always, ALWAYS "not enough free, clean, accessible toilets" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) The answer is drunk people. I was once walking home with a drunk housemate who pissed in the street a few minutes away from home. Also "clean" does not enter into it. The street is not clean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A few minutes can make a difference in wet vs dry pants, especially when there's 15 beers inside you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Iambus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You haven't met enough drunk people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) The answer is drunk people. I was once walking home with a drunk housemate who pissed in the street a few minutes away from home. Also "clean" does not enter into it. The street is not clean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A few minutes can make a difference in wet vs dry pants, especially when there's 15 beers inside you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A few minutes can make a difference in wet vs dry pants, especially when there's 15 beers inside you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You haven't met enough drunk people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) So to you it is axiomatic that the problem is insufficient toilets. You cannot understand that there are people - usually drunk - who will not use a toilet unless they are already inside it. It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination, so maybe a multi-pronged approach including discouraging people from doing so is more sensible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) We've already been doing the later. And how has that been working out? You are correct, that I cannot understand something that I've never seen, or even heard of. I've seen shitfaced people stumble into restrooms pretty frequently. I've never seen someone say "I know there is a toilet less than a block from here, but I'd rather piss on the wall!". But I hear the opposite all the time: "Man, I wish I didn't have to piss out here, but the nearest toilet is a mile away". It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination... Citation needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I have been walking home with someone who pissed in the street less than a block (I don't live in the US, we don't have blocks, but it was a couple of minutes) away from home. Cmon, use that imagination of yours to go beyond what you have directly experienced. Remember too that all drunk people have come from somewhere with a working toilet, because places that serve alcohol have toilets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe the place was closing. Maybe they didn't need to go at the time. Maybe the toilet didn't work. Maybe they just pee a lot. Guilty as charged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) We've already been doing the later. And how has that been working out? You are correct, that I cannot understand something that I've never seen, or even heard of. I've seen shitfaced people stumble into restrooms pretty frequently. I've never seen someone say "I know there is a toilet less than a block from here, but I'd rather piss on the wall!". But I hear the opposite all the time: "Man, I wish I didn't have to piss out here, but the nearest toilet is a mile away". It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination... Citation needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I have been walking home with someone who pissed in the street less than a block (I don't live in the US, we don't have blocks, but it was a couple of minutes) away from home. Cmon, use that imagination of yours to go beyond what you have directly experienced. Remember too that all drunk people have come from somewhere with a working toilet, because places that serve alcohol have toilets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe the place was closing. Maybe they didn't need to go at the time. Maybe the toilet didn't work. Maybe they just pee a lot. Guilty as charged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I have been walking home with someone who pissed in the street less than a block (I don't live in the US, we don't have blocks, but it was a couple of minutes) away from home. Cmon, use that imagination of yours to go beyond what you have directly experienced. Remember too that all drunk people have come from somewhere with a working toilet, because places that serve alcohol have toilets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe the place was closing. Maybe they didn't need to go at the time. Maybe the toilet didn't work. Maybe they just pee a lot. Guilty as charged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe the place was closing. Maybe they didn't need to go at the time. Maybe the toilet didn't work. Maybe they just pee a lot. Guilty as charged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Maybe. All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Stop making excuses. If people are still peeing on the streets they are lazy drunken degenerates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago i've seen more studies saying the answer is more free toilets that i've seen everyone is just lazy degenerates. in fact. i haven't seen any studies that concluded everyone is just lazy degenerates. maybe i'm reading the wrong studies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago i've seen more studies saying the answer is more free toilets that i've seen everyone is just lazy degenerates. in fact. i haven't seen any studies that concluded everyone is just lazy degenerates. maybe i'm reading the wrong studies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kaki@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago Most of these are not free, according to your second link. permalink fedilink source parent
