Both have been prioritising "engagement" over "results" because it allows them to advertise to you more.
In case you didn't realise, if the product is free, you're the product and both have been doing an amazing job out of extracting value from your eyeballs.
Unsurprisingly, they're both owned by the same company.
It also feels like some pages in top results didn't even exist before I made the search. They are filled with generic babble about the subject without ever going to details or conclusions. Dribble that no human would ever write
It's so bad. I keep searching topics on YouTube and getting 3-4 results before YouTube starts recommending videos based on past searches or past watched videos. Like, excuse me YouTube, what the fuck? You search what I tell you to search.
Dunno about Google but Youtube seems to be making some things harder on purpose, like seeing the date of a video or showing search results in chronological order.
Yes. I have regularly been using DDG, but would wind up using google sometimes anyway. Now I’m actively forced to use other engines because google is now a monetized results server and will return zero or no relevant results in favor or sponsored or monetized results.
Yes. It’s becoming shittier everyday.
It's been bad for a few years already but it is getting worse. A good chunk of the internet isn't indexing anymore (places which require logins to get the content), and those that are largely exist to earn from the advertising, not to be helpful.
There's actually an opportunity for a disruptive force here. If you can be better at search than Google, you could steal users. But duckduckgo and related are mostly trying to be old Google rather than better Google.
I just love how YouTube has a "show unwatched" button in its search that usually shows me videos I have watched multiple times.
Probably because it's prioritising what it thinks you're more likely to click on more than the actual search term. AI recommendations basically.
month on month, everything gets worse and more noise to filter out. Can't be the only one with this sentiment.
What you're seeing is called 'enshittification'. In this particular example, in 2019, Prabhakar Raghavan – the ex-McKinsey, ex-Yahoo MBA who ran ad revenue for Google – came up with an ingenious solution: just make search worse. If you have to run multiple searches to find what you're looking for, that creates multiple chances to show you an ad. No really. This is real. https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
Why do people put up with this? You can find out more about enshittification here:
Short explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2e-c9SF5nE
Longer explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaoWpQ-3Zs
Use something else like Kagi or duckduckgo
I'm annoyed that YT got rid of the search by newest first option. At least Rumble has it still
It's all monetization directed, no matter what. Boolean search is gone.
Yup. I had this exact thought YESTERDAY, when I did a search for the name of a GitHub project I needed to read up on (I forget which project), with a couple keywords, and the GitHub page wasn't even IN the top results. Later, I was doing a search for a quoted phrase, which of course is supposed to guarantee that the phrase appears, verbatim, in the results, and found that NONE of the results contained that phrase.
And no, I wasn't looking at the AI results, I've got those removed with a plugin.
Yes! It's very hard to find alternatives to social media sites through google. Get choked in dozens of whiny blogs of 'social media isn't what it used to be' articles instead. Had to find duck duck go on yahoo then find alternative social media sites on duck duck go.
I wonder what would happen if we all just signed off for the rest of the year.
Not on YouTube since most things I search for are on the 1st few videos. For google, yes. ive stopped using it and primarily use ddg
Yes
Yes, it is one of the main reasons I started paying for Kagi. Google search is designed first and foremost to serve you up to advertisers who pay Google.
Search has been becoming smarter for years (decades?) by now.
The problem is that search has been made to work with the "you know what I mean" factor... fixing spelling mistakes, considering different tenses or forms of words, including related words...
Search became more friendly to the average non-technical user, but it became harder for users who know/knew how to search for exactly what they want.
Other factors include...
I've been using Ecosia since Google turned to absolute dogshit because of SEO and sponsored links. Now I don't even use search engines anymore, I just ask an LLM immediately and tell it to link its sources so I can verify for myself
What bugs me — and Apple Music is guilty of this too — is when I search for an indie or eastern song and it only shows popular results from the west.
Marvis Pro, a feature rich front end for Apple Music, knows my favourite musicians or bands are ONE OK ROCK, Enya, and Nightwish. I don’t want American Top 40 trash. But it still pushes that stuff.
That is why I've started using Deepseek as a replacement for searches, the proven tract record and successes of the Communist Party of China to improve people's lives make tech out of China OVERWHELMINGLY more trust worthy then tech out of the blood soaked Capitalist Imperialist threat to all humanity that is the US ruling class (and those who currently serve them) (and the US itself for as long as it hasn't yet overthrown the Capitalists (basically the Billionaires, and now also a F**king Trillionare.)) (it's almost like I'm writing code lol, I should try to make my writing style more consistent or something)
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