In Ireland I was a student.
In France I was considered an alcoholic.
In Ireland I was a student.
In France I was considered an alcoholic.
Vacation vs Work Week... I'd be curious how it would go vacation vs vacation
What is "vacation"?
In the article I read they compared the drinking in the days around the scottish game to the drinking in the 4th july weekend and the scots massively won.
What article? I must've missed that one... but it's still not apples to apples... because a lot of people still work day of 4th of July, don't take that time off to celebrate like people on holiday for the world cup do.
I'm not doubting the answers, mind you, just the validity of the test itself.
Y'all have never encountered Wisconsinites, and it shows.
Slow news day in WI:
"Steven's Point man arrested for 16th DUI."
Not much of an exaggeration, sadly.
Is a Wisconsin Driver's license even valid without at least one DUI on your record?
https://x.com/Outkick/status/1579137795741741057
Scotland doesn’t hold a card to sconnies.
Scotland versus all 50 states: Wisconsin carries the team.
Scotland versus 49 states except Wisconsin: I'm not sure how this would turn out but I suspect Scotland would win.
Scotland plus Wisconsin versus the other 49 states: sort of like a professional sports team playing a high school sports team.
I lived in WI back in 03 when they lowered the bac from .1 to .08. people were pissed, but I don't recall them drinking any less, just getting arrested slightly more.
It's not a 1:1 comparison is the thing. A DUI implies you can still get into the car and start it, so it's like you're bragging about only doing half the job. You haven't passed out at the bar and your friends stack empties on your head 15 high. (I've seen the Welsh do this at 10am ahead of a WC qualifier that started 10 hours later)
I've seen both of y'all get sloppy, UK and WI/MN. The Brits, but especially the Scots, do drink more that you statistically, and are just better at it.
And they're descended from some pockets of Scotland and Ireland that never slowed down.
But for real, there parts of the world that get slooooooooooppy. Drunks stumbling down the street at 9am in major cities type stuff drinking corn hooch in southern African countries. A lot made at home in Eastern Europe, who already ranks high. But they hold theor booze better, too.
Finland has a term specifically for feeling antisocial and not wanting to go out so you can get drunk at home alone - underwear drunk.
At some point, pissing contests lose the nuance or ick or charm of what makes alcohol-fueled cultures like that.
Oh my sweet summer child. Come to Britain. We'll show you what liver-threatening levels of belligerent drinking looks like. The only nations on earth that might - MIGHT - out-drink us are Russia, and maybe rural Finland.
Wisconsin's beer consumption per capita is almost double that of Britain's.
And we drink that beer while we are waiting for our brandy and whisky drinks to show up.
What percentage is Wisconsin beer?
The Midwest and Great lakes region isn't the south. Our beer is worth drinking on several different metrics.
4.5%-7% for common popular beers, and excluding the fancy craft ones that you're probably having only one or two of that are 10%-15%.
The south has fine liquor, but some states/areas have weird laws around beer that makes it basically tap water with a dream. Their tea will have more effect.
Ha! Ha ha! HAHAHAHAHA!
Average abv of beer overall in the US vs beer in the UK is roughly similar. 4-5% in the US, and 4.5-4.8% in the UK.
Wisconsinites drink ~34-36 gallons (~128-132 liters) of beer per capita. Per capita consumption in the UK is ~18-20 gallons (~68-75 liters).
Additionally, while the UK has a great pub culture, that means the drinks tend to be spread out over the week, whereas Wisconsin (and really America as a whole) has more of a weekend binge drinking culture. This means that not only do Wisconsinites drink almost double what people from the UK do, but they tend to do so when only drinking 2-3 days per week.
And, if you want to include liquor, Wisconsin still has the UK beat. Pure alcohol consumption per capita is 10.6-10.7 liters per capita in the UK, vs 11.7-13.2 liters per capita in Wisconsin.
Montana is highest in the US.
It should be noted that the rubes in both states drink shitty corporate beer for the most part.
The most popular beer in Wisconsin is Spotted Cow from New Glarus Brewing Company.
Spotted cow is also one of the top ten craft brewers by volume in the US. They do not distribute outside of Wisconsin to my knowledge.
Not even close. New Hampshire, apparently, is the top consumption per person.
I'm assuming this is based on sales of alcohol. NH has state run liquor stores (they sell all kinds of alcohol, not just liquor, but are the only stores that can sell things stronger than wine/beer). They have no sales tax, and are generally cheaper than liquor stores in all of the surrounding states.
Vermont, Maine, and Massachusetts residents regularly cross the state line to buy in NH, and NH makes it convenient with stores close to the borders and near highways.
Yeah, and looking at the global stats, the 2019 ones seem equally dubious in some ways, being mostly lower and rounded the same way. But to WI's consumption, they also have lower taxes relative to IL and MN.
Plenty of places like Eastern Europe, people make their own wine at home. That's going to skew them, already high, higher in reality.
Just personally, the UK is just fucking professional at drinking. Despite the fact they aren't even in the top 10 globally. I know that upper-Midwest drinking a touch, but it's just not the same.
You do know alcohol comes in other forms, right?
Per capita, UK alcohol consumption is actually just slightly ahead of WI. But the UK is also only 22nd globally by rank.
Romania drinks 150% of what WI drinks per capita, and a lot of that is wine and brandy.
Right. But hey look, these stats are pretty unreliable the more I look into them. I've seen plenty that put the UK avg and WI avg close enough to be negligible.
I dunno, man. I've seen WI and UK drinking. It's not a pissing contest worth having online from either side.
I've been to Britian many times, you folks get out drunk by the Germans a couple times a year and by the American Midwest consistently
A former colleague of mine who enjoys a glass of wine of an evening was reported to HR as an alcoholic by a Midwest American at her new job in London. It was a US-based company so HR took it seriously and she had to explain herself.
All of us at her previous job were astonished. We'd worked with an alcoholic - he had a bottle of water in his desk drawer that turned out to be vodka, and he got so drunk he passed out and fell off his chair. Miss Prim America had been on a work trip with our friend and was scandalised by her drinking wine with dinner every day. Maybe it was a religious thing?
The UK isn't even in the top 15 European countries based on liters consumed per capita. You are higher when it comes to alcoholism per capita, but still not in the top ten.
Pretty sure Australia and Poland are up there too based on my experiences.
You have a long history of drinking beer because the water wasn't potable for much of your history. The rest of the world drinks actual spirits because we like getting drunk.
You would handle a night of drinking with Americans as well as you handle an inch of snow on the roads.
They'll never know the joy and sorrow of spending 16 hours in a Wetherspoons and not being on shift.
Czechs do pretty well too and they do it on beer. None of the cheating on vodka.
After returning from a vacation to America, an English Youtuber was talking about the cultural differences, and said that what they call "going to a pub in the evening," Americans would call "a serious drinking problem."
This would never happen in the Midwest.
To make this simulation a little easier to the compare the Western US is ~80M people and I think the UK takes em down comfortably.
The Great Lakes region would take down the UK, but in a much closer and drunker matchup.
Forget America, I wanna see the UK go head to head with Romania
The Czechs are supposed to be amongst the best. Not as good as I, but still.
We'd lose
I'm Canadian.
We'd mop the floor with you. The UK would be just as successful. As long as you consider 6% beer "strong beer"....
I never specified which side I was from though
Obviously American. Because American's cannot drink for shit.
Why not cut out the extra steps and just say you'd like to see the UK cease to exist?
Alcohol is a helluva drug
So is sobriety.
Send them to Wisconsin next. The standing BAC for elementary school kids is .12.
As much as I hate the USA, this is the first time I'm ready to compete for my country. I'll have a double-shot and a Pilsner, please!
UK cant even out drink other Europeans.
You would be dead before you made it past Pennsylvania.
I was curious. The UK drank 12% more per capita than the US in 2022. 10.8 L/person year for the UK and 9.8 L/person year for the US.
10.8L is roughly 3gal which roughly 33 12oz bottles
Thats like 1.25 cases of beer, either I'm drinking a lot more than the average person or these stats arent correct
It's not how much they drink, it's how they drink. It's all binge drinking.
Challenge accepted.
I'm in Santa Fe, only a mile and a half above sea level. Wanna go lower in altitude? Guess I'll drink double. And since you invited me, you're paying, yes?
I’ve never been at high altitudes. Do you get drunk faster or just get nauseated/tired more easily?
I don't think so, but above 6,000 feet oxygen deprivation shows effects. It won't effect alcohol metabolism. The high plateau folks are just stroking themselves off, they can't outdrink anyone because of their altitude.
Yup, Santa Fe is at 7000ft. At those altitudes, a single drink is worth about 2, and you sober up slower. 4 beers is considered a long night of drinking, and must be done with water breaks and food.
I don't think that's actually a thing, I'm at 600 ft above sea level, and I would drink you under the table.
I'm not so sure, years ago, I saw a documentary once that tested this.
I know this is a joke.
If every person in the US could handle 2 drinks, every person in the UK would have to drink 9 of the same to keep up.
High school mentality.
American's call 6% beer "Strong beer". Get the fuck out.
That's gotta be a regional thing, I have never heard the term "strong beer" said stateside and my life is probably more than half over.
Domestic beers are standardized at 4.5-5%, which at 12 oz is the equivalent to one standard unit of alcohol in American Medicine.
Pretty much anything that's popular right now is an IPA and those typically start around 6% and go all the way up to 8% before people decide to start renaming them doubles or barley wines.
Besides when comparing beer drinking of Europeans to Americans in the context of alcohol your comparing apples and oranges. Americans drink less beer and like 50% more hard liquor then y'all do.
So now that we know the British don't drink as much as they think are they ready to admit their beer isn't all that good compared to the continent
India Pale Ale is good ale. I know others make a lot of good beer I don't even know about, like the Czechs especially, belgium went all corporate.
What do you consider good beer? Because heavy hops is non negotiable for many of us, that may prefer the 7.6% ales over the weak ass corporate bullshit they sell to the sheep hereabouts.
https://www.hauf-bier.de/produkte.html
Is probably my favorite beer company, I generally prefer the pils unless it cold then I prefer the Dunkel.
IPAs are my least favorite they go from too much hops to an unbelievably too much hops.
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