Teams isn't made for the users.

They recently cribbed the Catch Up feature directly from Slack. I’m a big fan of that. Come up with a good feature on their own? Nah.

Good to remember that the client for Teams isn't you - it's your IT department

I bet some employers love that shit. They are Microslop Teams‘ main customers. Making our life miserable is a feature.

Loathing and fellating their corporate partners. Every part of Teams is extremely user-hostile...

If your whole ecosystem is in azure, it kind of works. Similar to gsuite

Wow, and what an image…

It would be very useful me to know if a colleague is in the office or not without the need to message them and wait for answer.

But yes, I have to fix my status roughly once per day, so I have doubt this feature will work properly.

Many also do not care, unfortunately.

Let's not get that Lemmy echo chamber vibe where a few dozen of us agree that millions of Windows users don't exist.

Even better when you have multiple machines logged in.

I am simultaneously presenting in a call and magically away from my desk, soon to be while working remotely and sitting at a desk in the office.

Fucking idiots.

The activity issue finally just made me set to appear offline. I was irrationally paranoid that my manager or skip would see me away most of the time and think that I wasn't showing up for work, even though I was sitting there typing away.

The worst part is that even if I set my status in the status bar to "available" once I noticed it was away, it sometimes would just set itself back to away instantly. Opening up teams and clicking in the window seems to be the only way to get that to not happen.

"Hey are you in the office" works well, too.

But IME if I am, they are just lining up at my door anyway and I can't focus on actual work. At least when I WFH, I can ignore "hey you got a sec?" until I actually do.

My status is permanently set to Away so that people don't bother me with stupid questions like "are you in the office", although for some reason teams randomly resets my status to green every couple of weeks until I notice the increase in stupid questions.

Even without VPN, IP-based location has always shown me in all sorts of random places, sometimes even in the opposite end of my country. Guess it's an ISP thing.

This is using your office network/wifi SSID to set your location status in Teams. It’s not sharing your location when you’re nothing the office.

Also, it’s opt-in.

Management on the other hand ..

God damn I hate this universe, why is technology a tool to create new shackles instead of breaking old ones

It will also introduce 50 new product-breaking bugs

I too have a hard time seeing management as human,

I was at Shiny Night at one of the local Seattle furry bars a little while back and wound up hanging out with a bunch of folks in really well articulated fursuits talking shop. Eventually, as it does with any group of devs, the topic drifted to the classic game of "who hates Teams the most" and unfortunately it turned out the people I was drinking with:

1- Were mostly M$ developers working on Teams doing their 'team bonding' polycule thing.
2- Hate teams more than I could possibly ever manage. I mean, you think you hate teams? You think it's unmanagable, insecure, convoluted and a pain in the ass for your IT crew? Imagine what the backend for that disaster must look like, then make that your entire day job. My god, it was a level of vitriol matched only by discussing Deutsche Bhan with a group of drunk Germans...

Nutella gremlins?

Always.

Easier to control if your employee is actually at the office instead of working from home.
It's not like the pandemic proved most office jobs could actually be done remotely...

The phone calls part is one of the better parts at least for me) for Teams. It has it's own number, works on all the devices, can forward, and works well. I don't want to carry a work phone, and don't want a desk phone in the office (even though we have ones that connect to Teams). If there is a better solution that's 'cheaper' all for it, but seems pretty sold.

Because Microsoft, and just the constant little BS problems I'm always having with it. Which are probably a result of being subjected to Microsofts shit QA processes. They're always changing shit with it while the problems that have been there for years keep occurring. Also my work decided we don't need actual desk phones because Teams calls work just as well (they don't).

I don't think I hate teams for the same reason as most on this site. My gripe is the stability issues. Just at my department alone there are 20 different issues per teams. Some range from buttons working after a few presses to teams just bsod the device. On my laptop teams has a memory leak and which is persistent. I have to clear teams every week or it will not even start up anymore

I miss Skype. I think Zoom is better. It just worked in the browser, on a Linux host. The dependencies for Teams is icky to me.

Its likely they will be forced to and it may even be enforced by group policy at some time in the future if its not already

Home users, corporate users have group police edit: policy... Same thing

It won’t. IT has to set it up - which scammers won’t, and users have to enable (or at least not disable) - which scammers won’t.

grab a router and install OpenWRT onto it, and turn it into a wireless bridge. Use the router to connect to the office WiFi, and have a wired connection to your laptop

A setup like that would trip our IT security. I actually killed all the phones on our floor by doing a simple packet route they didn't recognize, they have the routers set to kill all the PoE and block all data when anything they don't recognize comes through.

At work ?