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[–] 128 points 4 months ago (14 children)

The good/bad news is that the old "I swear to God you bootlickers need a good ass kicking" and "Jesus is ashamed at what you do in his name" styles of country are making a comeback

And for inclusivity, there's a sub genre devoted to the "you tried to end my people but I will not die" style which includes focuses on lgbtqia+, women in general, pagans/wiccans, indigenous groups, other, and various combinations therein

The bog witches, fae creatures, and {unknown description of Appalachian denizens} have been putting out some good stuff

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Pink Williams is actually one of those people for those who dont know. His style is very anti capitalist country music. "The Devil is Real" is all about how the real devil is the capitalists who take advantage of the common folk. And "Thank God For Gay Cowboys" is as the title suggests about gay cowboys and rednecks.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Americana. Check out James McMurtry.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Chris Knight, Jason Isbell, Steve Earle, Turnpike Troubadours, Cody Jinks, Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, Lucero

    All great Americana / Folk Rock / Outlaw artists who have meaningful music most would call country that has nothing to do with pavement princess trucks, shitty beer, racism, or military worship. Quite a few of these artists have songs with anti establishment themes or have made statements against conservativism at some point, as far as I am aware. Classic outlaw country is also full of artists who were hippie / fuck the state types before corporations co-opted the genre

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I thought Colter wall was an asshole, but I'm only basing that off the fact that he sang Dixieland as a preface to one of his songs. I just kinda assumed that he was a white supremacist and stopped listening to him after that.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I'm not claiming to be an expert on the personal affairs or beliefs of any of these artists and I've removed other artists I didn't mention from my library after learning some unsavory things. I do know Sleeping On The Blacktop, his most popular song, makes several literary juxtapositions about class and ideology in the south, one in particular about a rich white confederate type woman spitting on the working class people in a region of the appalachians that traditionally opposed the confederacy and slavery.

    Would be a very odd to also play songs supporting confederate ideals at the same time, but some people do some real mental gymnastics with their views

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There have been quite a few options in heavy music as well. Zeal and Ardor mix black metal and spiritual folk, Wayfarer have an Appalachian black metal vibe, and Bask do some really beautiful progressive metal in the style.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I've also been grooving some Lilith Max lately but she ventures closer to indie pop but the sentiment is the same. Add Peggy, Mollie Elizabeth, and Emei to that vibe

    Oliver Anthony is a good hit of the Appalachian soul. Bryan Andrews is a hit you over the head with the calling out of the establishment. Add Jesse Welles and Tyler Childers for slightly more subtle messages

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Queer Appalachian country sounds awesome. I normally go for folk punk, but I do kinda miss living surrounded by queer Appalachians like some of the places I've lived

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    talking about hot beer and cold women

    My truck left me and my girlfriend broke down.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    There was this super popular Vountry Sing a few years back called "That's my kind of night" with terrifying lyrics.

    The course was saying that on a date, other men might take a girl on a date to a restaurant or something in town, but that the singer would drive them to a river in the middle of nowhere where nobody can hear them, put them on a boat, and sex them.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You’re missing the cultural context and misinterpreting the intention as a result. You see, in Glorious Christian America, having sex is so shameful for the man and the woman that you must hide a long distance away so nobody knows two consenting adults enjoyed themselves.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I mean a fair bit of old country music was just "I love it here, but sometimes it sucks, but it's right where I want to be" and taking pride in that. It seems like a lot of modern music has just distilled and broken that into "I'm gonna get fucked up and laid and if you ain't from round here then git out".

    The soul just got sucked out of it and the scraps got wrapped in plastic and makeup.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I was driving through western Washington near Idaho recently, scrolling through the radio to see what they had going on out there, and the song literally went "find you a girl who loves her daddy, and talkin bout babies makes her happy" likeeee cmon this is straight up Christian white nationalism dog-whistle, let us be honest with ourselves.

    I love Lucinda Williams

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    If you like country, you need Euro Country. Ciara and the gang have plenty of soul, they're feckin' class.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    I heard death comes in threes, I misheard it, bein' from Dublin

    I thought "death's in the trees"

    Which makes sense 'cause they're the saddest removed

    Of plants I have seen, oh, the drama of them dying every year

    I love that bit so much

    Edit: oh my instance censored me

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I was shocked when a friend told me he was into early country music some years ago. Then he explained the difference between the country he was listening to and the country music of today. It was actually pretty cool before it got watered down.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    If you gave me modern country music and the AI slop version, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    Is This Country Song Racist? - Key & Peele: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnUJzueBOQ

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    NPR had some good bits about this.

    Country music hasn't always been the soundtrack of the Republican Party, according to music historian Lester Feder. He says President Nixon cemented the relationship during his years in the White House, and there's a country album to prove it called Thank You, Mr. President.

    https://www.npr.org/2007/02/18/7484160/the-conservative-evolution-of-country-music

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Country music draws it's origins from southern blues music. Blues originated from religious black musicians and often why it was singing about struggles or over coming demons.

    New country is just a racist pop singler that wants to fuck their tractor.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Zandi Holup is a pretty "new" artist who sings a lot about "struggles or over coming demons". My favorite song of hers is "Gas Station Flowers", the official video for that song is intense. She releases pretty much nothing but bangers, IMO (not a fan of "Mary Jane" personally, she kinda missed the mark on that one). "Go Find Less" is another great one, straight up feminist anthem. "Dirty Wings" is a good song as well.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago*

    The modern country I listen to goes like:

    He's bouncin' off my booty cheeks,

    I love the way he rides,

    I can hardly breathe while he's pumping deep inside.

    I kiss him on the neck and then he kisses on my bussy,

    Call him Daddy while I holler,

    "Man that boy's so damn good looking!"

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    I actually love the sound of a steel guitar but it seems like the only country music that features steel guitar heavily is the kind with insipid lyrics.

    If anyone could make any recommendations on that front, I'd be happy to receive them.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    May I introduce you to countrycore

    Bilmuri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW2JD0tj1jQ

    I never knew I needed this in my life, and they are amazing live too.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It seems like the interesting parts of country music got kicked out by gate-keeping corporate assholes. Americana seems to have collected a lot of the exiles, i.e. Brandi Carlile, John Prine, Emmylou Harris, Jason Isbell, Allison Russell, Gillian Welch, Maren Morris, etc.

    I guess Chris Stapleton hasn't been kicked out of country yet, and he's pretty good. I thought "White Horse" was an absolute jam.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I'm generally not a country music fan, although I love any well composed and performed music, regardless of genre. Chris Stapleton is as good as a musician gets. He's a first rate composer, and an excellent singer/ guitarist/performer.

    The fact that he exists, puts every one of the rest of those lightweight State Fair acts to shame. I would be ashamed to put out so much of that insipid nonsense, knowing it's going up against masterful work like Stapleton's. He's easily the best thing happening in Country Music these days.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    It’s never been great. Nasal and basic, with real zingers like “my love burns like a hot stove”.

    Rockabilly, now we’re getting somewhere good. Music with a little soul. Other various fusion efforts can be good too.

    I won’t wax poetic on it, but top 40 country has been rather banal for decades.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago

    I will wax a little poetic, then. ;-)

    Nashville has had a machine since at least the late 60s for harvesting songs basically provided for free by writers desperate for a break, and routing them them through overproduced studios full of controllable singers even more desperate than the songwriters. Now, to be fair, the occasional gem slips through, more when the model was less refined, and then there's folks like Dolly Parton who infiltrated it like a virus and then took it over to explode with decent music.

    Still, other than what Steve Earle called "The Great Credibility Scare of the 80s" when he, Dwight Yoakam, Lyle Lovett, KD Lang, and Melissa Etheridge (among others) were allowed to bubble to the top of the scene, there's always been a grifter business mindset that's somehow worse in country because, as a direct outgrowth and expansion of certain varieties of folk music, audiences ask for authenticity when all they really want is cultural validation (hint: for country-adjacent music, authenticity usually looks a lot like it does in other genres). Bubblegum country therefore somehow feels dirtier than bubblegum pop, and it gets even worse as product categories ossify and Nashville country gets targeted to a more and more specific segment of the public.

    I'm fully aware that even the stuff I like, the "Rockabilly [and] other various fusion efforts" broadly called "Americana," is subject to its own tropes and business pressures, but being smaller and targeting a different niche, there's at least room in the conversation for artistry and risk, and thankfully good music isn't as hard to get made as some other forms of entertainment, so there's a lot of it out there waiting to be found.

    Also, nothing wrong with some nasal vocals in the right context, LOL. I do grow weary of "High and Lonesome" bluegrass vocals after about two songs, though.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Kinda depends on how far you go back/what genre of country you are talking about. But John Hartford has some of my favorite lyrics that still carry weight today. I probably think about the song In Tall Buildings everyday on my drive to work.

    The thing I hate the most about modern country is that there's nothing that really connects it to country/bluegrass other than the poor use of steel string guitar and fake accents. I live in Oklahoma.... Nobody talks like that, and even if they did you would usually lose it when you're singing.

    Someone like reba mcentire has a fairly common Oklahoman accent if you talk to older people in the boonies, but she doesn't really sing with a heavy accent. It's all performative affectations from rich kids from suburbs pretending like they're from the country side.

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    Surprised Jesse Welles hasn’t been mentioned. Maybe not country, more folk I suppose maybe. Not music I typically like though, and he’s my favorite artist right now.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well, it’s easier than just waitin’ around to die.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    At least where I am from the earlier music would be considered ‘folk’ not ‘country’.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    They are all narrative based, with bluegrass having quicker tempo and more harmony, folk mostly being acoustic, and country being more commercialized and featuring electrical instruments. However, largely what separates country from folk and bluegrass is mostly time. What we call bluegrass and folk nowadays were at one point mostly marketed as country music.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Sure Conway Twitty was marketed as country but was Woodie Guthrie? I am pretty sure there was still a separation even back then.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    He kinda predates the popularization of the term "country music". The predecessor of country music was called "hillbilly music", which is how he marketed himself as. The popularization of country music as a genre happened in the 40s. During the 40s he often played alongside people who marketed themselves as either folk, hillbilly, and country music artists. There wasn't really a clear distinction at the time.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    It's the same today with rock/pop, rap, r&b, etc. There are lots of variations that fit under the same umbrella. Look at all the different versions of rock music, but artists like Metallica and James Taylor both end up considered Rock artists.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well, that’s not how I learned it but honestly more and more genre definition seems subjective to me. I know people who are adamant that Johnny Cash isn’t country because they “don’t like country” but they like Johnny Cash. I’ve seen some places start referring to the more modern genre of country as “Honky Tonk“ just to make the separation more apparent.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    What kind of dates are we calling "old country" vs "new country"

    I heard a lot of commentary like this when I was in college in the 90's

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    That's around the time the swap was happening, heart felt ballads about the trials of life vs upbeat I'm the greatest and I don't take crap.

    It's not that there's no new country that's good, but most of what people call country is just twangy pop. I blame twangy pop for a lot of the nationalism we see now.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Sidebar: sadly, these days whenever I hear agreeable political lyrics in a modern song, my first thought is “you pandering motherfucker,” which is a silly thought I need to turn off. It just makes me think of Joyce from Disco Elsyium and her infraculture/superculture speech.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    No Burnham came up with the best name, stadium country.

    There's still plenty of smaller lesser know artists that still keep that outlaw country spirit alive!

    Charlie Crockett (southern twang) Cody Jinks Paul Cauthen (epic booming voice) Whiskey Myers (Lynyrd Skynyrd sound)

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Lots of good country out there, it's just not played over the air.

    Orville Peck is a huge favorite of mine, he did an interview with Terry Gross that I highly recommend checking out.

    Cody Jinks is another great one.

    Tyler Childers also has great politics as well as incredible music.

    Colter Wall, Sturghill Simpson, Billy strings (gild the lilies has been a fairly often replay by me.)

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    The Gunfighter Ballards by Marty Robbins were great

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Don't forget the tradition of revolutionary country music!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTlrMRLk8LQ

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I read the "Now" one in the tune of "What does the fox say" and after thinking about it found it accurate. This is what Fox news does say.

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    Meet Bryan Andrews : Yeehaw

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    My favorite example of this is from the Charley Daniels Band:

    Uneasy Rider, progressive(1971)

    Uneasy Rider, 88

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Country music became racist when white people co-opted it. I see David Allen Coe lyrics under this like that’s an example of non-stupid, non-racist country music? DAC is as stupid and racist as they come. Had help from Shel Silverstein’s racist ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Nuthin' about a loyal dog or a two-timin' woman?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The episode of Parks and Rec where they were trying to get the young country star to perform at the festival is one of their best episodes. The half-assed patriotic dog whistling in the songs was so good.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Cat loves food, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Cat loves food yeah, yeah

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Youre listening to the wrong country dumbass

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    I dumped country music when it picked political sides. The breaking point for me was the Dixie Chicks dustup with Bush Jr.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    I was drunk the day my maw got outta prison

    I went to pick her up in the rain

    But before I could get to the station

    In my pickup truck

    She got run over by a damn ol train

    -- RIP David Allan Coe

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