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[–] 113 points 5 months ago (13 children)

An insane amount of money and overtime went into changing software and data to make sure that a lot of bad things did not happen. It's not that the Y2K bug was a nothing burger, a lot of people worked very hard to make sure critical systems were changed.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Yep, now we have the 2038 year coming for Linux. It already got me, I didnt want to renew my home NAS certificate every year, so I thought I'd do a 30 year cert. Well after 2038 it rolled the date to the 1960s...

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Debian is ready - as of Debian Trixie (released in August 2025), all software in the official repo is being compiled with 64-bit time. https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/64bit-time

    For your home NAS, I'd recommend using Let's Encrypt with Certbot. You can use it for internal systems, as long as you have a real domain name. Use DNS verification instead of HTTP.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    So when some Linux apostle is preaching how I need the salvation of Linux in my life, I'll just tell them that I'm waiting for 2038, and then I'll jump in AFTER the apocalypse.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Join now lest ye not be saved. 😀 32 bit time keeping is the issue, most systems are 64 bit now, so its just logistics / implementation issue now, not a technology problem

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    I have been telling people this for 26 years now to no avail. I wish I hadn't busted my ass now so all the motherfuckers since then who claimed IT is useless could eat the giant dick of downtime.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    And it's tough to remember just how fast computing was changing in the '90s, improving by leaps and bounds all the time with seemingly no ceiling in sight. Consumer computing power was doubling every one and a half years. And in, say, 1994 it wasn't unreasonable at all to assume that all of that crusty old tech from the '80s and even early '90s surely would have been replaced by the year 2000 anyway without anyone having to do anything special about it. Probably more than once... right?

    The crucial disconnect there was that tech people are not necessarily business people and I think a lot of folks grossly underestimated management's recalcitrance in spending money until it was more than clear they were facing a crisis.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    A lot of stupid businesses and government entities waited until the last fucking second to fix a problem they knew about for half a century.

    The overtime should have been exponential for them kicking the can down the road for literal generations.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    We haven't changed. Companies will not spend more than they have to on IT if they think they can deal with it until next quarter. This was no different, plus developers of software didn't expect their stuff to become legacy and not updated with better programs. Memory was premium, so a few less bytes here and there that would work fine for a few years was what they did.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Half a century is a bit of a stretch, but I otherwise agree. It should not have gotten to the level of trouble it became, but I also dislike the implication in the OP that it was just a non-issue meant to scare people; it was a problem that indeed came to a head because many companies kicked the proverbial can, but a potential real problem nonetheless (especially in medical/insurance/monetary systems rather than "planes will rain from the sky" sorts of issues).

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago

    Having spent 80 hour weeks in '99 ensuring this became a meme....

    ..i still wanna smite.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Millions of man hours preventing catastrophe only to be met with the perpetual refrain “What do we pay you for?”

    Those people deserve to be as honored as those who worked in the space program, but all the recognition they got was the movie Office Space.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    I worked on an ISP helpdesk in 1999 (including New Year, to my disgust), and we had dozens of people call in during the next few days because systems they relied on to run their businesses had failed.

    The fact they were calling an ISP about their accounting software is probably an indicator of the type of thinking that caused their problem.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Y2K was a real threat and maaaaany people worked around the clock to update firmware and software to ensure everything would be fine. And it was fine. And then people said "iT wAs JuSt A cOnSpIrAcY". No, it was a crisis that was avoided by hard work from many people.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    I have a similar one on my computer. But 2038.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Thid is the same bullshit as anti-vax i hope you know. When a bunch of people work their asses off to prevent a tragedy and when it is averted everyone acts like its a total waste of time or some kind of conspiracy.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I was a nerd in high school with no friends and all I wanted as midnight approached was for Y2K to not interrupt my Team Fortress Classic match.

    It didn't. And I laid waste to my digital foes.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

    This reminds me, a local man built a bunker with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and food in preparation for Y2K apocalypse. When it didn't materialise, he eventually died and my dad bought some old steel things at estate auction. We cannot for the life of us figure out what these things were for.

    Some sort of rack? Too short for hanging meat. Made of steel. About 5 of them. It's really been bugging us.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Why did your Dad buy them, if he didn't know what they were? They're big and bulky, can't stack, can't store them, etc. If I brought those home, especially with no plan, not even knowing what they were, my wife would hang me on one.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Not OP nor user Agent641, but hell, if I ever learned anything from my late father, it's this..

    That, my friend, is perfectly good stock metal material, just takes a hacksaw to cut it apart. Reuse the metal however you see fit...

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Well he's already divorced, collects all sorts of weird shit, and he has a giant scrapyard full of steel junk. Ancient bus from the interwar period. Pile of garage doors but no garage. I don't pretend to know why.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Coming from my late father, that's all perfectly good stock metal material, once the welded sections are cut apart into desired lengths anyways. Can be reused for whatever purposes, plus the material probably came way cheaper, if not perhaps free, compared to purchasing raw stock from the metal foundry..

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Doesn't sound like they are actually using it. How much stock metal do you need to store if your consumption of the stock metal is (near) zero? Don't think that theory holds weight here.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You never met a hoarder have you?

    They probably caught a hella fat deal on the material, but the deal might have come with the catch of 'You gotta take it all for this cheap deal' sort of thing from some construction site or something like that.

    My late father ran across such deals sometimes. Hell, he picked up an entire Pizza Hut freezer panel assembly. And I don't mean like a kitchen freezer, I mean like their main back freezer, enough material that he literally built a fucking storage shed out of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    That isn't storing stock metal, then, it's just hoarding. It doesn't matter the condition, or purpose, or any deals. It's just accumulating -stuff-. It possibly being used for xyz is just superfluous

    I guess "hoarding" is the answer I expected, not (they think) it can potentially be useful.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Meh, you don't know true hoarders then. My dad was the type to pick up a washing machine that got hit by a truck off the side of the road, if it even looked like it had compatible valves, bolts, control knobs, switches, whatever.

    Daddy collected lots of junk, but it wasn't all exactly junk either. He'd pick something up one day, having no idea what the hell he would eventually use it for, but sure enough, 3~10 years later, we'd find a use for the stuff.

    A lot of the scrap metal he found (pipes, pipe clamps, sheets of tin, canvas) went unused for years, just sitting on his property, until he got enough material to build his tool shop (different shop than the Pizza Hut freezer panel storage shed).

    I dunno about what OP has there, but I do know that there's two types of hoarders, those that intend to make use of their finds eventually, and those that are just straight up obsessed with collecting junk they'll never use.

    Daddy was the planning hoarder, and if he was still here, he'd say OP apparently inherited a hell of a load of useful material. And I'd say go ahead and saw all those weld joints out, stock the long pieces in the garage or wherever, and scrap the welded cuts at a scrapyard for a few extra dollars.

    Either way, whether OP has any use in the material or not, you'll get quite a bit more money for it at the scrapyard if the stuff is already cut up into sections that'll fit into their big boy scrap bins.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Is the water container part of the setup?

    If you want to make some kind of water purification system of that size, it would make sense to have some steel structures to hold the weight of the large containers.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    They look like frames for either a shell of something or potentially as forms for concrete pouring (doubt that though).

    So they probably go together to make the skeleton of some kind of shelter or vehicle.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Don't knock it. Iron Man's armor gained sentience because of the Y2K bug kicking in at the same time he was hit by lightning. It spirited him away to an island to 'protect' him, and became obsessive about it, to the point where it created an artificial heart for him to replace his damaged one. It also killed Blacklash, while Tony was trapped inside, unable to take control. Beat him like a motherfucker. To death, I say. Serious business, that Y2K.

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    [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Excellent prank by best buy, there's no month 31, silly goobers

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    This is fine. Booting the computers back up the next morning is shere we all went wrong!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I miss 1999

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    My guy over here with a 52 speed.

    Load-speed flex.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Y2K is why PROLOG devs are paid so much.

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