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[–] 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Robber Barons are back in style!

Why is anyone questioning why people want to murder the rich and support social programs more and more. You have just sit and think how much people will take before they absolutely slaughter these fucking pieces of human trash.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    They throw people in concentration camps without any process, much less due process, get giant tax breaks while taking away people's healthcare, layoff thousands of workers while getting a generous bonus, dump toxic waste in the rivers, use 45% of the corn grown to make ethanol that doesn't solve anything, and say there's not enough room for solar panels.

    But don't post Luigi memes because that's inciting violence.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago

    This guy's upset you won't break your back to make him richer.

    What a piece of shit.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    Yeah, you can go fuck yourself with your 7 day work week.

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  • [–] [S] 49 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    What I don't get is...they can just hire more people to do the work and expand the company? When you consider this, you realize that they're just asking people to work 40% more without an increase in pay (hence hiring more people is not an option)...then they call it "productivity gains".

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    they can just hire more people

    In software development, it's not that easy. Having multiple people working on the same code adds a lot of overhead. Also, finding another excellent programmer is slow and expensive. (The "fast, cheap, good: pick two" rule applies.)

    Plus, do you want two software developers with a good work/life balance and fulfilling ways to spend their free time, or do you want one software developer with mental issues that, among other things, leave him with nothing to do except work and no source of meaning in life except getting work done? The first option is more dependable, since the guy in the second option is crazy. However, if you're building a startup then you need to take risks and the second option is the one more likely to create something amazing. (IMO, of course.)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    This seems short-sighted. You want to hire enough people and give them what they need to grow their skills as they work. Invest in your employees a bit. Then you get the quality without the burnout and mental crises, plus you get a company that feels good to work for.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Plus the fundamental insanity of saying efficiency is a single monolithic thing that can only be effectively worked on by a single person. The only reason you have that is because the type of coder these people want to abuse is the same type of person who's bad at designing code. They just keep stumbling on subsuming additional features into the monolith because encapsulation and code design is uninteresting to their reward centers. That's why multiple people can't work on it, not because there's some fundamental inability to effectively partition work during the production of innovative software.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Having more people always adds overhead. It's not only software developers.

    You don't need to have two developers working on the same piece of code, you can have each one working on a feature. And different teams can develop different projects/products. If a project takes 1 year to complete but you want an output of 2 projects per year, you don't need to overwork your current employees. You can hire a new team so there are 2 simultaneous projects being worked on at the same time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I assumed that the VC is talking about small startups, the sort that have a dozen employees and just one project.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Can those be valued at 1Bn?

    Ok, yes, there are these examples:

    Instagram: When Facebook acquired Instagram in 2012, the company had only 13 employees and was valued at $1 billion.

    WhatsApp: When Facebook acquired WhatsApp in 2014, the company had around 55 employees, but it had previously raised funding at a valuation of $1.5 billion with a much smaller team.

    Duo Security: In 2018, Cisco acquired Duo Security for $2.35 billion. At the time of acquisition, Duo had around 10 employees.

    Nutanix: While not exactly a small startup at the time of valuation, Nutanix was valued at $1.2 billion in 2013 with around 10-15 employees.

    (disclaimer: I sourced these from gpt and have not fact checked them)

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Stebbings, founder of 20VC, a firm managing $650 million in funds, advised founders on LinkedIn last month that “7 days a week is the required velocity to win right now,” to compete with startups in Silicon Valley and China.

    Just from that sentence you can tell the guy leads an impoverished life in ways that won't be fixed by money. But he's going to spend his life chasing money because he can't imagine what else to do with it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Just like all the other psychopath techbros, he'll take from everyone else, make everyone miserable, wallow in his superiority, and be a general scouge to Earth in an attempt to fill a void that will always just expand anyways. At the end of the day, they'll always have the most money and still be the poorest people in the world. No amount they exploit from the rest of us will satiate their ravenous, everlasting hunger.

    They'll punish us, who they envy for our ability to live rich lives with emotions that they will never experience.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good - nobody needs billion-dollar startups. The line doesn't have to co constantly go up forever. We don't need to constantly improve productivity and do more for less. Fuck that and fuck this "debate".

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I remember reading about a hotel in Japan that has been open for over a millennium, and IIRC it’s owned by the same family who has owned it for most of that time, and that’s their only business. We need more of that: steady-state businesses that operate but don’t pursue permanent growth.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Debate"? What fucking "debate"?

    Someone suggests something comedically fucked up and it's now a debate?

    Shut the fuck up and sit down, you VC cunt. No one wants to hear your clown-show takes.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Meanwhile, some places have been trying out 4-day 8 hour days, and have found that they retain competent staff who have fewer accidents and make fewer errors, increasing company productivity while reducing wage spend.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'd rather pay for clear-minded hours of a worker, rather than near-burnout hours. But the guy doesn't care, he's trying to compete by saving in wages...at the frontline of tech. It makes no sense either way.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I've told bosses before they can have either my early hours or my best hours, but not both. There's so much waste in our work lives trying to fit to some picture of productivity that isn't actually real. We just play the parts we're required to while getting nothing done.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Jokes on him: some of the laziest jobs I’ve had were for successful startups.

    Hell, I work for a startup right now and spent the last three hours in my hammock watching YouTube.

    I get paid for results, not time

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Must be nice. I've worked for a couple myself, and all I constantly felt like I was being exploited the entire time.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I’ve worked for a few where I was being exploited. One paid me by letting me keep the laptop they bought me.

    Then some accountant called me and asked if I still had it.

    I said no.

    Luckily as you do this more you learn what to look out for. The one I work for now is pretty great.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    JFC, I loathe douchebags like this so very much.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Can we just agree as a society that people like this are ruining the world? Maybe if they were treated like the enemies of humanity they are, and exposed to 1% of the misery they cause, it would be a less common genre of shitty person?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Screw all Venture capitalist. They destroy everything they touch. Why should a worker give all they've got just to get screwed in the end?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Says the dude who counts golfing, diners, other events as "work"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    The rich are ripping the copper out of the walls of society before it all comes crashing down. They burn out employees, throw them away and hire fresh ones. Who cares, they're not planning of any of this lasting much longer.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    You'll get four and you'll like it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    If it is your startup, you are free to work 996 mode. Don't expect your employees to do the same.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We need to tax these fuckers till they bleed.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Yeah you can fuck yourself with a rusty pitchfork. I'd prefer death over those shitty hours.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Given how much billion dollar start-ups are ruining our world, wouldn't that be a good thing?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He might be right, but if he wants me to work more than 5 days a week then I would expect to be compensated accordingly. Otherwise he can fuck off.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    CEOs 996 is 9 hours per week, 9 days per month, 6 months a year right?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I mean this is just how you get any real talent with any real mobility to use that mobility to leave.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I love how we're simultaneously being told that AI is this wonder invention that's streamlining everything but also that we're apparently supposed to now work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.

    Either AI works as advertised, in which case let it do most of the work and let us work less, or AI doesn't actually help at all, in which case fuck off and stop trying to shoehorn it into everything.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Check out the bags under this guy's eyes. He's not even thirty

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    But it literally did.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Isn't the point of working hard so that you can take it easy eventually? These psychos never take it easy, the suffering is the point for them.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    It can be that or it can be the satisfaction of doing useful work well. Venture capitalists don't do useful work so they don't know that satisfaction. And they don't know what else to do but chase money because they lack the capacity to appreciate life as it is and are probably scared to just stop, in case they have to face the void in their heart. Hence their unstoppable, narrow-minded craving for more money.

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    I'd be so mindful of how i spoke, if I had a Backpfeifengesicht like him.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    All those men lost in the jungle and now we’re giving credibility to the Viet Cong. We truly have fallen.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    996 work culture isn't for everyone - or even most people. But if someone wants to start a company doing something they love and work that much, I say go for it. I started a company, albeit I only work 60/week, doing something I love and working with my family. It isn't the only way, but is the way that works for us. 🤷

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    albeit I only work 60/week

    You do realize that this is a lot of fucking hours to work per week, right? We need to stop normalizing this shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I work from home and with my family, and I love what I do (it is my hobby). I don't ask our staff to work this much and I don't communicate with them outside of business hours (or after 2pm on a Friday). So, I'm not sure why this is wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I didn't say anyone was forcing you to do it, I just find it disgusting that we've normalized hours like that to the point where it's talked about like it's on the low side. "Only 60/week"

    I'm glad you can work for yourself, but the overwhelming majority of people who work 60hrs+ are not doing it by choice, and it consumes their waking life.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    But it is normal for me and I don't think I should feel bad about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    OK, then don't... I'm talking more about the society we live in, in general, where people would preface "60 hours/week" with the word "only." Reading shit like that makes me super sad.

    It's a societal problem, not a you problem.

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  • 17 comments in c/workreform@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'd like to see this motherfucker work for 12 hours every day for 6 days a week for some minimum wage shit. These corporate suits are beyond disconnected from reality.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He probably "works" more than that, because for him his "work" looks like riding a private jet, golfing with business associates, fancy lunches and dinners, or sending emails from his phone on the beach.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "I work this hard, everyone should work this hard!" -- someone has no idea what hard work is.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh oh oh, they have one for this!

    "HaRd WoRk DoEs NoT EqUaL VaLuAbLe WoRk!!"

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    "As you can clearly see on this chart I made of the value I put on things, the value I put on my own work is the highest, and the rest of you are very low, and you should feel bad that I don't value your work! What are you going to do about it? Work harder? Haha, that will just make my value go up even higher!"

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Well not everything needs to be worth a billion. Certainly no person should ever be that rich.

    People with insatiable greed have a mental disorder. They cannot even conceptualize the idea of working a reasonable amount, and being happy with a modest profit.

    Maybe we should stop letting the most sociopathic & insatiable people set standards that can never be satisfied.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, you gotta work like that, if you're the one starting the business. Talking to a client who owned several businesses one night over drinks. He said you have to work your ass off for a year and-a-half to two years, then it pretty much runs itself.

    One might note that he wasn't talking about his employees working like that.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    You gonna pay me a billion dollars to work at your startup? No? Then shut the fuck up, you wannabe-slaver asshole!

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  • Tencent subsidiary riot games already does this. By soft policies like providing shuttle (only at night/early morning) and free dinner.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    these people are physically incapable of saying things meant to scare people without it coming out as supporting the thing they dislike.

    no more billion-dollar startups? fucking hell yeah, let's implement it!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I’d work 995 if…

    1. I was being paid twice as much as I am now
    2. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner are provided.
    3. You have someone who can do all my chores and errands before I get home.

    There’s not enough money you could give me could make up for having Saturday off.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I’ve seen a handful of new startups posting about their 4-day, 32-hour work weeks. I can only imagine they’re bringing on a scuzzton of top talent at middle-of-the-road prices.

    When one of them IPOs for a billion dollars, I hope their employees are incredibly annoying about it. I hope they never shut up. I hope my LinkedIn feed is wall-to-wall “look what you can do on four days a week.” I hope they go door to door with a Rolex on both wrists and say “hello, sir/madam, I just wanted you to know I haven’t worked a Friday in five years.” I hope they post pictures of themselves relaxing with a martini at the start of every three-day weekend and people go ballistic in the comments and they don’t even notice because they’re too busy doing interviews with Forbes and Fortune Magazine. I hope I get sick and tired of hearing about four day weeks.

    I’m sure as hell tired of hearing about execs that want their employees to burn out.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    We live in a world of Supply & Demand, and he won't get the supply of labor he requires unless he meets the demand for proper compensation. It's the simplest economics there is.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Who needs a life, religion, and family when you are working as a cog in "profit generator machine 3000"?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    No. It's obviously not.

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  • 3 comments in c/antiwork@lemmy.ml view that post
    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I mean of course the VCs will say that. They aren't the ones working. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Whatever LinkedIn loser. It’s not needed anywhere, and it’s illegal in China.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    we don't need billion dollar startups just to begin with.

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