Gnome Slander (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/43631736

Gnome Slander Rules

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[–] 110 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Hey I like Gnome :((((((((((((

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Uhhhhh anyone know… …the artist’s… name? Cuz cute.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago*

    Oh, you didn’t want to be disoriented by all the apps flying apart in every direction when ever you wanted to use the task bar? Oh you wanted a system tray not hidden behind a menu?

    Oh, well you can just use a plug in … just pray we don’t update and break all the plug ins anytime soon.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, we're good

    keeps enjoying KDE

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago* (19 children)

    Everyone asking about gnome, but what's a braixen?

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    It's a PokΓ©mon, and in the game, the creatures you don't intent to use are stored in a PC

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Oh no.

    That's ... that's too humanoid.

    I'm sorry you were made this way Braixen, the internet is not safe for you.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Yep. It has one of the highest number of r34 results of any pokemon.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    That's impressive. Who got the most of them?

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  • Lucario. Even mentioned on their Wikipedia page:

    Patricia Hernandez, in an examination of the furry fandom, stated Lucario was the most popular PokΓ©mon for the subset dedicated to the franchise's characters.[45] Meanwhile, the PokΓ©mon has also been cited as one of the most frequently utilized in erotic works by the fandom and furry pornography,[46] with a June 2023 study of such content on Rule 34 websites, such as e621, Rule 34.xxx, and Sankaku Channel, noting a significantly higher volume of material compared to characters from most other franchises, and the highest of characters from the PokΓ©mon franchise as a whole.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucario

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Don't make this poor soul search all 1,025 pokemon on there

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'd suppose Guardevoir or Vaporeon

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Gardy is currently at 24k, Vaporeon at 18k. Lucario got 37k

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly I didn't expect lucario to be so high. Also I forgot lopunny but I guess it won't come close to lucario

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Lopunny's at 18k, so closely tied with Vaporeon. Pikachu has 22k tho, same as Eevee. Of the eeveelutions, Umbreon (24k) and Sylveon (20k) are more, uh, "famous" than waterfox. On a different franchise, Renamon (31k) carries nearly half of Digimon (72k) on its back.

    Palworld's total "fame" sits at only 6.7k, quite ironic considering Lovander πŸ˜†

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Most of the starters for like the last four generations are basically fursonas. It's tragic. I've been a Pokemon fan since the nineties but I'm losing interest.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    What made me lose interest is how dead the games feel. I'm impressed how they made the world more open and somehow made it feel so empty. Towns have barely any personality, and the routes are just designed to wonder around aimlessly in.

    Don't even get me started on the permanent xp share, constant hand holding, and lack of any real puzzles.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I still think Gold/Silver/Crystal was the actual peak in terms of world design/mon design/storyline/characters, but I'm 100% willing to admit that could be my own particular age bracket of nostalgia talking.

    I do like some of the additional/revised gameplay mechanics from later games... team battles, weather, held items, that kind of stuff makes the games meaningfully more complex, as well as more detail and structure given to how breeding and heritability actually work.

    But a lot of the more... closer to current day stuff bssically just seems entirely like a gimmick that isn't very well systemically thought out.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    My god, I really don't like Gnome.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    Hey, at least it doesn't run windows.

    Things can always be worse

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I see no lies

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    I love Gnome but it fucking sucks

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Lack of desktop shortcuts by default: pretty much why I always switch to cinnamon.

    That said, it's not inherently bad, it's just not inherently good.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    I like old gnome and have stuck with cinnamon

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    It puts the Gnome on its skin or else it gets the XFCE again.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Cough cough server side decorations in wayland being sabotaged cough cough

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Coming from MacOS into Linux and landing on Debian/Gnome encouraged me into the world of keyboard-driven navigation.

    I got into customising keybindings and moved to a split programmable mech keyboard not too long after. Three years ago I made the switch to Sway and now on Niri (all transitions switched off) on my laptop. My desktop workstation still is on Gnome and I switch between the two machines (with full keyboard-driven navigation) seamlessly.

    Yes, some extensions do break on updates but I use extensions very minimally and they get patched relatively quickly. For the experience Gnome provides, I dont mind the couple of days that "blur my shell" is broken. The DE remains stable and the keyboard-driven workflow is fast.

    Now that I daily drive a WM (on my laptop) I am thankful I started on Gnome upon landing in Linux. It still remains the best keyboard-driven DE out of the box for Linux first-timers. Perhaps Cosmic will be the other DE in a few years.

    I hope Gnome sticks to its phislosphy as it truly provides something unique, stable and a great entry point into the world of keyboard-driven workflows out of the box.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't really see how GNOME is any more keyboard focused than, say, KDE. If anything, other DEs give you much more freedom for a keyboard workflow.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I think their point was that MacOS -> GNOME was a smoother transition than a diffetent desktop environment would have been, which led to them naturally discovering more keyboard-oriented workflows. Not that GNOME is any more keyboard oriented than other DEs.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I took sort of the opposite route. Lifelong windows user. Tried Linux out several times from like 08-12/13. Moved to Linux full time, and landed on Fedora, and absolutely loved it because of Gnome. It was different enough from Windows that it felt like a fresh start. Have been daily driving it since then.

    Two weeks ago I got my first ever apple device because I wanted something genuine reliable for school that didn't have any weird hiccups, and I just could not stomach the idea of going back to windows. It's similar enough to gnome that I am adjusting pretty well. Still have fedora on my desktop and backup laptop, though

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Gnome is quite good with dash-to-dock and the system tray plugins, but it does kinda suck both of those need to be plugins.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Get in the fucking PC braixen.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    Gnome being the default in most major distros for the last 30 years is why Linux hasn't taken over the desktop market.

    CMM.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Sarcastic comment or not, not knowing that you could use something other than Gnome (or what Gnome is in the first place) was the reason I avoided Linux as much as possible when I was forced to use it during my first year in university

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I loved it when I first encountered it. It was simple, elegant, and easy to use. Over time though, things got bad. I relied on an extension to show the taskbar on all monitors as well as the "Other locations" tab in the file manager to see disk usage plus some other things but these two broke the camel's back. Every upgrade the extension stopped working for a few months, but at least I could delay upgrading for a bit. That was until the extension maintainer went AWOL, so no update was made for at least a year.

    The "other locations" tab showed disk usage just a click away from my usual workflows. As someone who has a habit of making high utilisation of my disks, keeping an eye on disk usage was required. That was until Gnome decided we were too good for such an easy location so now the only place to see disk usage is in the disk usage analyzer that 1) is rarely used 2) takes a while to start up while it's scanning the entire disk. My habit of checking disk usage thus died. Until I had to upgrade to the new distro version. And it turned out I didn't have enough storage left to carry out the installation so my laptop bricked itself halfway. I was lucky that I could boot with a rescue image to clear some space and continue the upgrade but the first thing I did when it was finished was to install Plasma and kill Gnome.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I bought a mac mini to run some cad software as everything else I have is Linux KDE. Hated it so much after a few months I bought a laptop and win 10 IoT LTSC license... Gnome is the only desktop environment that pissed me off as much as macOS, and that's after giving it a good try recently in Ubuntu Pro while working out a new auto roll out solution for work.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Yah, I'm not even being sarcastic. I think it's over-simplistic interface and disinterest in keeping extensions working over the years has been a major pissoff of people that stuck their nose in and then noped out. Maybe former Mac users could handle it since they're used to being herded around, but expecting Windows users to come into that bullshit and feel at home was a big mistake.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    are you sure its gnome and not the hundreds of other problems that appear on kde and xfce too?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    None of the problems in KDE and XFCE are caused by the maintainers deliberately making things harder for the user

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    none of my problems with gnome were caused by the maintainers deliberately making things harder for the user

    the maintainers dont have to intentionally do something for it to be a problem that would make people not want to use linux

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Reminds me of the garbage collector bug on Plasma that would take memory usage to several GB that the devs told people they were full of shit when they reported it and took a year to fix?

    Oh, wait, that was gnome. KDE devs give a fuck about their users.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yep it's GNOME. KDE and other DEs are more familiar to Windows users

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    linux is not familiar to windows users though
    a slightly closer UI would not change how many other things are done differently between linux and windows

    it would still not change the perceived difficulty of linux, people thinking you have to use the command line, or windows being preinstalled on everything, or some apps not supporting linux, or people not knowing WINE exists, or the many bugs i have encountered, or there being so many distros to choose and people getting confused, or people not having the time to switch to linux, or not caring about their computer, or people being afraid of change, or the many other things i have not listed

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    I'm the guy who actually likes and uses gnome as my daily driver.

    It's for people who want to spend less time complaining about desktop environments and more time actually doing stuff.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    We should dissolve the GNOME and KDE foundations and all switch to deepin and xfce. Then we might get discourse so stupid it actually kills people.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Gnome behaves consistently. I want to love kde and have used it since the 3. Days but kwin seems to hate every build I've ever done.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    Pretty art, but this meme is really getting boring. I think people are just regurgitating "GNOME bad" because they heard it from some tech youtuber instead of actually trying GNOME for themselves. IMHO GNOME is awesome. It's a bit different, but very comfortable when you get used to it. And definitely reliable.

    I often see people using some h4x0r i3wm setup scrolling through workspaces and windows for literal minutes trying to find some app they were using earlier, while on GNOME you can just see everything spatially organised in the activities view. They think they have it "tailored for their needs", but they end up with an unmanageable config file with bits copy-pasted from the internet that is getting harder to understand over time and keeps breaking. I know it from my own experience too, I got tired of it and came back to GNOME.

    But if you wanna go down that route, GNOME is also highly customisable. There's lots of extensions that let you change every aspect of it. If you know some JavaScript, you can make your own, there's a decent community and documentation. Things like Niri or Cosmic actually started off as GNOME extensions.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Customisable isn't an adjective I'd use for gnome. It might be more hackable but UX customization is broken in Gnome.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think that’s the perfect choice of distinguishing phrases.

    KDE is very customizable (perhaps too much for more casual users) while Gnome is hackable with the extension system - but it will always feel a little more tacked on, be a little less stable, prone to upgrade breakage, etc.

    As a corollary to OPs argument, there’s also a reason Niri and Cosmos didn’t stay Gnome extensions.

    (But at the end of the day, if the Gnome experience niche works for you, more power to you.)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Beer snobs by any other name run KDE.

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