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TIL Fred Trump, who was Donald Trump's father, wore a Hitler moustache. (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/til@lemmy.ca
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Nothing surprising given how terrible Trump is, but nonetheless.

He also was present at a Ku Klux Klan demonstration in 1927.

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[–] 51 points 5 months ago (11 children)

So did Hardy from the comedy duo Laurel & Hardy, or Charlie Chaplin.

It was a style of moustache that was very popular for a time until Adolf Hitler came along.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago* (10 children)

    Just like the swastika was fucking everywhere for decades before Hitler usurped it. I've got an early 1900s Sears catalog with swastika watches, pins, clocks. All when Hitler was basically a tween.

    Point being: Fascists always steal culture, they never create it.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I always hated that I’ve found the swatstika frustrating appealing as a shape. Why’d they have to ruin such an interesting geometric symmetry?

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How early? 1920s was when the fascists officially adopted the swastika. Prior to that the Ayran supremacists were using it in Austria.

    The fact that it was in the Sears catalog in the early 1900s says more about how much fascism was popular in the US than it does about how innocuous the symbol was at that time.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I believe the catalog is from 1906. So not sure if early Austrian fascism had made it over by steam ship and spread thousands of kilometers across the country before the automobile.

    But it was less than 10 years before the resurrection of the Klan, so that was certainly brewing.

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    • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    And the Trump family business wasn’t originally real estate, no. Fred Trump made his fortune with brothels.

    shitbirds of a feather.

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    • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    In Fred Trump's defense, there were a lot of famous people with toothbrush mustaches back then, and Fred Trump simply wore a toothbrush mustache because he was a huge fan of Adolph Hitler.

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    [–] 73 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    It’s a toothbrush mustache, and more than one historical person wore them, Charlie Chaplin who Hitler likely copied was one of them.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    The toothbrush mustache became popular because it was the only kind that would fit under the gas mask. I believe that's why Hitler had one, he was a corporal in WWI (and was temporarily blinded by a gas attack).

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Yeah. That's all true. But would you say that Micheal Jordan briefly had a Charlie Chaplin mustache? Or would you say Micheal Jordan briefly had a hitler mustache?

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    The difference is that one of them wore it before it got labeled as a Hitler moustache and the other did it after

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    and? Things can get tainted by millions dying in tacit relationship. Just like the swastika has been a symbol for centuries before.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    The mustache for sure can and has, same thing with names, how many Adolfs yall know?

    Chaplin is obviously blameless unless he had future sight, but the thing about the Jordan attempt was that anyone that has even kinda followed Michael Jordan knows that he only did it because he thought he was a big enough icon to overcome the stigma of a Hitlerstache

    Clearly his ego had grown too large

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    I know zero Adolfs, and would question their parents.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I know one. He's 104.

    Fun fact: in many countries outside the Western world, Hitler is treated as just some dictator.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    I would also question people naming their kids after any dictator or famous terrible person, especially one directly responsible for the Holocaust.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Why are you assuming they are naming their kid for that particular person?

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not. I said, "question". What part of asking questions makes you think assumption?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Why would you even question it if you weren’t being prejudice? Lol.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    So you just fundamentally fail to understand any of this conversation, then? Fucking pathetic losers ignoring history... You DO what they say about people like you, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Oh I’m understanding it quite well, you’re prejudiced, it’s that simple.

    We’re not ignoring history, I think a large portion of people know we need to leave unneeded stigmas behind.

    It’s a name, and a face covering, what’s so evil about that? Adolf type names are common in other countries, just because you don’t know one doesn’t mean it isn’t done lmfao. What a take.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    No Hitler did not likely copy Chaplin, he much more likely kept the "toothbrush" from his WWI army days, when it was common because it fit under a gas mask.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    He was known to be a Charlie Chaplin fan, there’s not proof to either side. It’s not like we can ask him or he let us know for sure. We can speculate though.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    And that's what social media is all about - opinions in a vacuum based on minimal information and defended as if it were a matter of life and death.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    In my original comment I never stated it as a fact, I said likely, since we can’t know for sure.

    And are you trying to mock me for just defending my point when you attacked it? That’s… quite the interesting tactic.

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    • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    In Germany we like to call it a "Rotzbremse," which translates to snot brake.

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    • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    I heard it was a WWI response to the necessities of gas masks, following a period of artistic facial hair

    I’ve no doubt that this guy isn’t one of humanity’s greatest, but it’s not indicative of anything - well, beyond the war at least.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I mean this is unfair what time was this photo taken. Since he was alive before WWII. And then you have the point did people of that time call it Hitler mustache like did everyone just shave it off after WWII. Or was it newer generations who called it that?

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I'd say it's very on the nose, but this time it's arguably under it, not on.

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    [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Shit apples don't fall far from the shit tree

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    • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Well that explains quite a lot, actually...

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Pre-war soul patch.

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Also evicted Woody Guthrie from his house, and got a diss track from him.

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Trump's mother just looks like Trump in drag.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    TIL people think Hitler invented the toothbrush moustache

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Np, just ruined its iconography. Why are you so dense as to fail to understand that? Want to defend it?

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    • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Just a moustache.

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