https://apnews.com/article/trump-prayer-gathering-conservative-christians-nationalism-c677a4c43070e9da261f4ec5ebcf62a4

https://www.whitehouse.gov/freedom250/america-prays/

The gathering has been organised by the White House as part of a programme of celebrations for America's 250th birthday and, in a video message inviting Americans to attend, Hegseth said it was an opportunity to "rededicate this republic to God and country".

Muscular Christian nationalism has enjoyed a prominent platform since Trump's return to power, and evangelicals form a core element of the president's support base.

I thought America was a secular state?
A secular state is an idea pertaining to secularity, whereby a state is or purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion.[1] A secular state claims to treat all its citizens equally regardless of religion, and claims to avoid preferential treatment for a citizen based on their religious beliefs, affiliation or lack of either over those with other profiles.

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[–] 82 points 5 months ago (13 children)

And yet I was taught in school that people went to America to escape religious persecution.

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    It's true, they did! They just don't mention they were being persecuted for being christofascist nutjobs nobody could tolerate.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Amd they were persecuted by Christians.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    What happened to separation of church and state. Which was always funny since they have in god we trust on their money.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They were “persecuted” in the same manner the modern fundamentalist calls being told to respect the boundaries of others and coexist with different people “persecution”. In an era of religious extremism, the Puritans were so fucking obnoxious even the other Protestants didn’t want them around. It’s a national myth, loosely based on a kernel of truth but twisted to fit the broader idea that Christians, especially the fundamentalist ones, are a victimized, persecuted minority when they don’t get to use their religion as an excuse to force their bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and values on everyone else.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and values

    misread this as bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and wolves

    what might that mean???

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Well cuz, I think you’ve just got canines on the mind. I know they’d like to think of themselves as pack leaders or lone survivors, but the Lord is their shepherd and we all know what shepherds look after. Care for some mutton?

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago

    EPSTEIN FILES!!!! OMG THEY TORTURED, RAPED, AND KILLED CHILDREN. Fuck your stupid prayer. Only the most depraved demon would answer any of their prayers. Also, I hear they ate people too.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Muscular Christian nationalism

    Somebody's gonna rip a phone book in half....

    But even with the power of God Almighty, no Christian warrior can rip the Epstein Files in half.

    /s

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    HAHAHAHA I also read this and was like wot, maybe its british slang LMAO idk

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago

    Matthew 6:5

    “And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    All while proudly going against most teaching of the bible

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    We can pray for the demise of Christofascism, but it's going to be our job to make that prayer come true.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Oh dear sweet baby Jesus, please reach down from the heavens above and make this motherfucker's heart explode. There. I prayed.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    Oh I'll be praying for something alright ..

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They need to do this from their closet.

    At least according to their own text.

    https://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html?v=6

    And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Priests read this as gospel at mass where everyone shows up to pray in public and will 100% gossip behind your back if you miss a Sunday or don't look like you're praying hard enough while there.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I'm so glad I live in a part of the United States where I just don't have to give a fuck about picking the "right" church and doing the "right" things there. I have to pay as much attention to that shit as I do to how much someone loves Harry Potter series vs. Star Wars.

    Though apparently that is a huuuuge thing in certain parts of the U.S., notably, the South.

    My view is that religion and all its little rules and rituals are for those that have adapted that lifestyle. Since I live in a secular nation, I don't have to give two farts in a high wind about any of it.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    May they be touched by His Noodly Appendage.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Donald Trump is a prophet of the old testament. He even got the part about fucking his own daughter right.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Ah yes, Christians, the oppressed 69%.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Most of Christianity in USA is disgusting and unchristian.

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    If heaven is filled with Christians like Trump, send me straight to hell.

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    God's just another shitty boss. Satan was just the first union organizer trying to get fair treatment for himself and his coworkers. Hell was his punishment for that. He's not in charge of anything as far as is described by the text.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    “White house to pander to Christian voters because they’re scared about the midterms”

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    I'll pray.. I'll pray the good lord takes him awaaayyyyyyyyyyy, yeaahh!

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Satanists should demand equal access to do the same thing.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I pray every day. Just not to the god they expect me to......

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Nothing Christian about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Respectfully disagree.

    While it doesn't comport with many (better) people's concepts of it, these people aren't all hopped up on secular humanism when they ban books and open de-transition centers

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    There's nothing Christian about de-transitioning centers.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Except that they're literally all ran by Christians who use Christianity and the Bible to backup their reasoning for existing.

    Just a coincidence probably.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I pray they get struck by lightning.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Thought this was the Onion for a second.

    Sucks you can’t even tell real news from the onion these days. :/

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    At least you don't have that scary brown lady.

    But hey, bOtH sIdEs R tEh SaMe amirite?

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Kinda lame Lockheed Liberal talking point.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Kazoos on standby

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Maybe the felon needs some big operation tomorrow? Or they should give him his last rites?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I'm so atheist that I find even discussing it asinine. It's odd to me that a grown adult could hold any other opinion, and I'd rather keep pretending that I'm surrounded by grown adults. So I don't discuss it at all. And then shit like this comes along ...

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'd piss on a bible tomorrow if I had one

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Hail. Mother fucking. SATAN if these are the assholes telling you to pray to Jesus

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't pray any other day, but I'm going to not pray extra hard tomorrow.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Will they be talking about the TRUMP-EPSTEIN (TM) files?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Can't travel there and I'm not muslim. But if I could, I'd show up with a prayer rug and FSM teeshirt, and kneel facing Mecca while loudly making noises.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Wipin' mah ass with the constitution...

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I can pray. He won't like to whom or for what I pray, but sure, the gods could use another plea for his downfall.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How does one not pray extra hard?

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    I have no gods to pray to but anyway good luck with that

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    He demands people pray to him. If they pray to God, they get thrown in a lion's den

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Okay.

    "Dear Satan…"

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    The government is endorsing the concept that the citizens should reject Critical Thinking Skills, and embrace Faith-Based Thinking, in which people believe what they are told, without any evidence, based solely on faith in the authority sending the message. Once they've convinced someone of their authority, anything they say will be believed, no matter how outlandish.

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