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[–] 110 points 5 months ago (27 children)

A usb cd/dvd/bluray drive is like $20 on amazon, nothing stopping you.

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    You can even get ones with spicy firmware for extra flavour that lets you back up your physical media (where allowed by law, of course... Naturally)

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Do you need special firmwares to run a dd command on Linux?

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

    I'd imagine that could make a backup of the whole disk, but it can't decrypt it

    I just flashed the firmware and used makemkv (when I was using windows...) I'm sure there's a better FOSS way but I haven't explored it since moving to linux

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    makemkv on linux for DVDs. abcde for CDs. dd of=game.iso for games.

    I used to have pretty good luck with mplayer -dumpstream for DVDs, but its success rate started dropping a few years ago and I switched to makemkv.

    No magic firmware required.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    You do need magic firmware for BluRays.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Untrue. You can rip standard Blu-ray movies using MakeMKV with factory firmware. You do need special firmware to rip UHD Blu-rays unless you have a certain drive with older unpatched firmware. Also, Blu-ray data discs work as you would hope.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Must be a new thing. My 20-year-old BR drive has never complained.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Most newer drives won't give you the kind of direct access you need for an accurate copy. Some disc areas necessary for dealing with copy protection are inaccessible except by specially blessed playback software.

    Some older drives ignore this restriction but newer ones, especially all 4K-capable drives, don't.

    There's an alternative firmware called LibreDrive that enables a low-level access mode where an application has direct control over the laser assembly. That plus ripping software aware of this mode (MakeMKV) will get the data off the disc. Add known decryption keys and you can get at the raw video files.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    When I was in the market for one a few years ago, an internal drive and a USB enclosure was a safer bet for making backups than a USB drive. It's usually not too hard to find out the recommended drives for the backup software.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Just a heads up-

    Asus' USB DVD drives 'with USB-C' are not USB-C, they have a crappy MicroUSB to USB-C cable included in the box.

    So if you wanted one with USB-C on the device- DO NOT BUY ASUS.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Just curious how you think this will impact performance? Reading of a DVD or CD would not be a nottleneck due to what USB interface used, its always going to be the device its self so it really doesnt matter at all. If anything props to them for at least updating to the latest to maximize compatibility.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    It won't impact performance, but microusb is dead. Apart from this dvd drive, I haven't used microusb in ~2 years.

    Microusb might as well be proprietary to me at this point, I have 'infinite' usb-c to usb-c data cables (and at one point, I did for microusb too...) but only 2 working microusb cables now, I never wanted to have to buy another one.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    It's funny to me how people hate on ai but still use Amazon.

    They're both equally immoral.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The unfortunate reality is sometimes you don't have a choice.

    Between Walmart and Amazon a lot of places have had their retail hollowed out.

    I'm lucky in that there is an electronics retailer near me that I'm quite sure would have something like this but your local best buy is unlikely to carry such an item. Maybe a staples would have it for 3 times the cost of the same item on Amazon.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    and some people claim to be anti-capitalism yet they have jobs and pay for food and housing... curious...

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Using Amazon isn't a requirement for living comfortably. It's a luxury that people could easily do without if they would just take the extra time to find an alternative.

    I get what you're trying to say but I don't think it fits here.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You're wrong. Low income households were absolutely made dependent on it, solely because of prices.

    Some examples:

    • Certain food is way cheaper, especially spices. In the shop I get 30-50g of it for 3-8€. On Amazon I get 250g for about 10€. Doing without means worse food.
    • A lot of tech is cheaper. Especially daily items such as cables, powerbanks, earphones etc., other shops usually are more expensive - often even for the exact same items.
    • Clothes are cheaper. The very same shoes from a known brand (Hummel) were just 33€ there, but 50€ anywhere else.
    • Some items you won't even find anywhere else except shady shops or Ebay sellers, and especially poor people can't afford to be screwed over. To know Amazon will just give you your money back is an unavoidable perk.

    Now add more disgusting tactics to that:

    • Amazon has certain ways to firmly insert themselves into e.g. poor people's lives. In Germany you get free Prime (and therefore free shipping) if you're on welfare. Combine that with the above, especially items like food or clothes. You have to save every penny, you do not have the financial freedom to just say no to that. Especially parents don't.
    • Local shops simply vanished due to online shopping, subsidized mega markets such as Amazon did the rest. For lots of stuff you'd have to travel long distances. Let it be because of no affordable public transport, slow ones or your old junker of a car falling apart, this isn't an option either.

    And it isn't even just poor people. With the economical situation as it is more and more people don't have the luxury not to use the cheapest, most easy option (you have to manage stress as well after all, and Amazon is easy). Even just spices and kitchen supplies probably saves dozens of € per month for a family, unless they really like bland food. Money available for healthy ingredients instead - or the washing machine that just broke.

    Please be aware how privileged you are being able to say what you said.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Also, usually many shops won't sell you things you need, especially in some countries and tech stuff! I think that i would've an hard time finding a blueray player that has some supported custom firmwares in the local shops, maybe i can find it on ebay...if i can find it in good enough conditions to be used at all

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I mean, I get where you are coming from, but they are also my backup durable medical equipment supplier. I have two options in my area and they are number two. If you rely on medical equipment and have ever been jerked around by a supplier, having one that is responding to your money and only your money is very nice.

    Like, I bought some pink tape off Amazon a few years back. Someone had unspooled the roll until it was almost empty then put it back in the box, then sold it to Amazon to sell to me. Nice scam, right? Fortunately the equipment I need is not returnable like the pink tape. Since I need medical equipment and when I need it from them I need immediately, it makes sense for us to pay for prime. Comes out to about six bucks a head if I did the math right, and I didn't even try

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    Just torrent it. It's actually pretty legal in that case

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    I have an external cd drive that I plug in via USB for this purpose. Tech ain't limiting you.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I have one that's mostly broken, which isn't a surprise as I took it from e-waste.
    When I tried to burn a disc with it, it suddenly started accelerating out of control and I had to kill the power to it. It almost shattered the disc:

    Clearly that wasn't burning it quite well.

    But there's another interesting thing. It won't read CDs. Except, somehow, VLC manages to get something out of it. It's earrape, and the recording from VLC ends up corrupted, but FFMPEG can still process it as raw audio (and so can aplay).
    Here's a sample:
    https://files.catbox.moe/bkwt82.flac
    Audio should embed on desktop:

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    This sounds like The Cure or something gothy playing through a 30s AM radio then transmitted to me by neighbour through our tin can phone system.

    Someone should run it through some distortion filters and maybe adjust some timings so it keeps a consistent beat. (I swear a hear a drum-machine version of a kick drum keeping beat there already)

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    They sell the drive as a USB item, buy one of those and enjoy.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    I picked up a lil usb dvd drive years ago

    Don't use it much but it waits ready in the tech closet. Cost like $20.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Been moving the same DVD-RW drive to every new computer for like 20 years. I'll be able to read Mechwarrior 2 until I die.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Currently rocking an internal blu ray drive and external floppy one (only because I couldn't find an internal one), I can't possibly imagine not having an optical drive on my computers. I still own a lot of disks including software and movies, I won't just throw everything away because the tech is now deemed obsolete (which is debatable on top of that, currently have a better quality on blu ray than on streaming platforms, plus no ads and works offline) If only it were easier to install multi-disk software through wine/proton though...

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I'm increasingly convinced the "Nobody uses discs anymore" thing is a coordinated manipulation campaign by rent-seeking streaming media giants...

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't go that far, my external media drives really don't get used as much it used to, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that people still using discs are now very uncommon anyway. Doesn't help that the blu-rays are still worse than piracy convenience wise due to the several layers of drm to bypass to be allowed to read a disc I own on hardware I own with software I also own...

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yeah discs are mostly a backup medium for me now, as I'd rather just read things off my server. :)

    HOWEVER... I'm not absolutely swimming in terabytes as a lot of self-hosters seem to, which makes storage really suck right now.

    ...So we still use our blu-rays because I can't afford to just throw gig after gig on platters like that. :(

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Or by Valve and their clones to drive sales on their DRM'd game platforms. Movies haven't really died out on physical, not as much or as early as PC games. Combine that with the tactics of idiots who also used Starforce and its clones and they've also left an impression outlasting the few games that were infected with the stuff. Now the new normal is to buy stuff infected with online account DRM as if that's somehow better.

    Okay but also I heard bluray movies can be directly played only on Windows, for other OSes you have to rip the movie. Must be fun.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I searched for and found an audio CD last month, and then proceeded to rip it on my PC as mp3.

    No idea why some people don't have CD drives anymore.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    So many computer cases don't have 5.25" bays anymore. But some do and those are ones I end up purchasing because I have a few CD/DVD drives kicking around that I'll toss in my computers when I build them because I'd rather have it and rarely use it than not have it and have to turn to a noisy and slow USB DVD drive

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    This is why piracy is so important.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    🤔 is it considered piracy if you're downloading a copy of something you already own?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    I mean those are just rules that some asshole made up. Make up your own.

    Nothing is illegal in any way that actually matters except harming another person. All other laws are just words. It's just a question of whether someone is willing to hold you at gunpoint to make you stop what you're doing or not.

    Which, for downloading pirated copies of old games, is almost certainly a "no". Especially if you use the most basic opsec but even that probably isn't necessary. (Don't use Torrent without a VPN though, ISPs really look out for that, especially shit-ass Spectrum.)

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Cutely goes to the internet and download the game for free from there with hopefully no viruses

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I basically haven't used my multiple external cd dvd drives in years, but i will not get rid of them for the just in case factor. Speaking of my father gave me a handful of live music cds he wanted me to rip so it will get some use very soon.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I have a disc drive in my computer. I've still torrented games that I have on my shelf because its easier.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I have a CD drive you can plug into your computer for CDs.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Look up your old favourite games. A lot of them have communities that have kept them updated so they’re playable on modern hardware as long as you have a (totally legal) ISO or disc in your possession.

    For example, Project Magma has been keeping Myth The Fallen Lords and Myth II: Soulblighter going for 25+ years now.

    I loved this game back when Bungie was a Mac-only developer and it holds up pretty well with a couple graphics mods in addition to the work Project Magma has done.

    I currently have 4 old Thinkpad T420s (nice) set up just to run this game on Linux with some friends around the kitchen table.

    http://projectmagma.net/

    LibreQuake is another one. I’m not as familiar with what they’ve been up to, as I never had a computer that could run Quake in its heyday, so it doesn’t hold the same nostalgia for me. That said, I appreciate their work anyway.

    https://librequake.queer.sh/

    OpenRA keeps Command & Conquer and its various sequels and spin-offs alive, including Dune 2000. Combined Arms is especially fun; a version that includes all the armies from all the games.

    https://www.openra.net/

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly, invest in a Blu-ray writer and pick up some decent 25gb discs.

    Not only can you play old games, but you can archive data in a relatively stable format at a much lower price point.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I had read at one point many years ago that CD-Rs degrade over time and are not good for long term backups. Is this wrong or are Blurays different?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    So, CD-Rs in particular are very bad with regards to stability because the thing you are writing too is a layer of dye. Some are better than others, but basically all will have that dye brake down and fade over time. The type of plastic in the disk as well, a few Japanese disc producers were notorious for using plastic that had a tendency to absorb moisture form the air that would rapidly cause the disks to degrade.

    There are other methods of writing though. CD-RWs for instance are much more stable as instead of burning away a bit of volatile dye layer, they are writing to a layer of metal alloy by melting it a little to change it’s crystal structure.

    The same is true with recordable blue rays, with Low to High disks using the same sort of dye burning as CD-Rs, High to Low disks use a variety of different mechanisms to write, but some use a similar melty metal as CD-RWs.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I have a blu-ray drive that got a lot of action at one point backing up movies. Now it just sits there sad and lifeless. This might be my inspiration to get that guy back in action.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    ive still got cds with programs that just wont even install on 10

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    You can get USB drives for a pittance.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Steam allowed me to use the old security code for my physical copy of Medieval 2: Total War to allow me to download a digital copy updated to work on Windows 10.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I have several dozen optical drives. It's pretty great.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Blud, I have this problem. But with 3.5" floppy disks.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Imagine if someone managed to make software for your phone that could use the camera to read a compact disc. That would be rad as fuck.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I remember readin an article about some software that would allow you to scan vinyl records in a normal scanner, process the image and get a representation of the music on the record.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    Probably easier there. Records are just a bunch of physical grooves which are "read" by a physical needle scraping over them. CDs are read using a laser and at way higher speeds. But a camera uses light to work, too, so 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I'd highly doubt any phone camera would have sufficient resolution to resolve the pits on a CD, let alone a DVD or Blu-Ray.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Just buy a lens for hundreds of euros. That's much cooler than a cheap USB drive.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Trust me, I have several. I'll try my RF 100mm 2.8 Macro on it later if you want, but I'm positive even that can't see the data on an optical disk.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    This would make for a KILLER Hackaday read if you got a proof of concept working though hahaha.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    Tech Tangents already tried it, more or less. He did a whole video on it, but here's the wiki entry. TL;DR: You really do need an actual microscope at minimum. You're certainly not doing an entire disk in one shot. If you want to even attempt to reconstruct the entire thing you're going to have to figure out how to solve the tracking challenges, and at that rate you may as well just use a drive.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Meanwhile I still have a couple disc drives and the one that came with my laptop is still with me but has been replaced by a caddy to access my data from the old hard drive alongside my smol new SSD.

    And I have so many discs too...

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I ripped them 10 years ago. But prefer cracks; less hassle.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    That's the nice part about Linux, you rip the CD to an Iso file, and can directly Mount the ISO file as a drive.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Good luck ripping an ISO without a CD adapter

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I got an unopened box with a USB DVD/Blue ray player. I am good.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I gutted my old defunct laptop to get its CD Drive then bought a cheap convertor on aliexpress. Now it connects to my pc via USB.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    You coulda slapped Linux on that bad boy and gotten a few more years of life out of it

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Its defunct because a capacitor on the motherboard is fused. Don't worry I got Linux on my pc as well as Server

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    Yeah and then just ripped the iso yourself without needing an adapter. Then plop it on a thumb drive or move it across the network.

    Thumb drive probably easier than a Linux virgin (as in, inexperienced with Linux...the other type is just redundant) figuring out network shares.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Anyway unless it's something from the 90s, the DRM is one or all of those:

    • Hardcoded for windows XP and refuse to run on anything else
    • Must connect to an activation server that was turned off two decades ago
    • Requires the installation of a rootkit
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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I've got an optical drive mainly because of the audio CDs I buy. Back in the time when games on CD/DVD were a thing, I was too poor to afford one.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Even back when my PC still had a disc drive, even compatibility mode wouldn't let it function

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Windows killed a lot of disc drives around win10. I was convinced my laptop one just died.

    Oh but look, running EndeavourOS and what's this? Works just fine.

    CDs and movies no problem. Games probably too, with a little Wine/Bottles magic!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Mine always seemed to work fine, still does actually! Although I don't tend to use it much.

    The last thing I used it for was the soundtrack for Die Hard I got for a £1 at a boot sale on a complete whim... only to later realize it was actually the soundtrack for the sequel hahahaha

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I tried this the other day only to realize I don't have a drive.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I bought this back in in COVID times as I saw the writing on the wall for physical media, and I could sneak it past the ATO as a WFH deduction: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48810/pioneer-bdrxs07tuhd-slot-load-4k-external-blu-ray-writer

    Probably the best investment I could have made in terms of continuing to be able to use the media I’ve purchased.

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