Also, "everyone" is conveniently ignoring that invading and bombing iran has been a bipartisan wet dream since the islamic revolution took place. I assume almost every american politician is probably gooning every day to the images of burned bodies tbh

Did Obama conduct carpet bombing? A quick google search indicates it was mostly conducted in the early stages straight after 9/11 under Bush

Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.
90% civilian casualties from his drone strikes.
A record 3.8 million deportations and a lot more.

You can debate who is the worse war criminal and mass-murderer, probably him.
'better' is not the right word.

we used to be so bug and strong we didn't have to punch people in the face dammit

also i'm keeping it

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Since I was ten or so every president has crossed that line.

I wonder if everyone who calls Obama a war criminal also calls bin Laden a freedom fighter.

Yeah didn't vote for this guy after the first term.

He was a sham.

We could do better, but the democrats have done nothing but far, far... Far, far, far... Far, far worse.

fuck u, we have dozens of intellectuals! DOZEENNNS!!!

Your first paragraph makes the assumption that the American people are/were on board with what is happening with Iran. Trump never attempted to get the population to support his actions. It's deeply unpopular with his base and liberals alike.

With project 2025 they seized all levers of control. Checks and balances, if they ever existed, are all but gone. Seems the courts are the only thing left that produce any pushback and that is an intentionally slow process vs the move fast and break things actions of Trump.

He doesn't care about his approval ratings, and congress isn't doing their job. Huge amounts of aipac money are being pumped into all levels of government. Disinformation campaigns from 24/7 news stations keep the normies divided. Bot farms are further manipulating the online narrative using ai.

The whole thing is fucked, but it's a little more nuanced than the general population not understanding (or frankly wanting to understand) the JCPOA.

Our government has basically been overthrown, and other than protests or violence, there is nothing we can do to stop it until November. We don't have a viable mechanism to eject Trump in the meantime, and he's going to continue stacking the deck in his favor with gerrymandering and other sketchy shit until then.

Turns out money and power runs things, and that doesn't produce the best outcomes.

They had every chance to call it on a blatant idiot.

Suckers and losers in the service.

Republicans have absolutely no clue how the past few months damaged America's reputation in the world. Especially in Arabic countries and Europe the trust in America has gone from an already low level to absolute zero. Every country which isn't absolutely braindead tries to cut ties with the US as fast as possible. This is a loss of soft power which made the US dominate the world and might never be repairable even with a sane president. America's decline is accelerating because of that down the line, long after Trump has left this world.

He was smart enough to drone strike children and got americans to think he's a nice guy. Or americans are just dumb and or don't care

He's also been happy to help rehabilitate bush and is now being pro republicans staying around as a party.

Hell in office he was more than happy to continue bushs programs and agendas

He probably disappeared because the DNC was still propping up Hillary Clinton and she was running the show. Remember 2008 was supposed to be Hillary’s year, Obama came out of nowhere during the primaries, he was just a one term senator. So the DNC and Hillary probably felt that Obama swiped the presidential seat from under their nose. Obama gave Hillary Secretary of State as a peace offering, but probably wasn’t enough for the DNC and Hillary. I doubt he could have pushed through any meaningfully change when the DNC was adamant on getting Hillary in office.

What was he supposed to do? He gave us 8 years of competent leadership. One deserves retirement.

He’s outta line, but he’s right

Raped fewer as well.

I doubt he killed less children

Cause not everyone in the military is a soldier.

servicemen is all branches. soldiers is army, airmen is airforce, etc. they are using precise legal language for the US military. it's literally the word they chose like, two hundred years ago i think?