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[–] 148 points 6 months ago (42 children)

Am I the only one who has no problems with Nvidia drivers?

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  • [–] 114 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    There's a lot of PTSD from linux users in the before-time.

    Don't get me started on trying to compile 3Com network drivers.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The funny thing is that for a long time nvidia was the GPU brand to get on Linux because ATI (now AMD) drivers were just as closed but sucked ass.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    I have an almost 20-year old laptop with an nvidia card as old as it is. I’m running Mint on it and never encountered any issues with it in particular. To be fair, using Mint also probably made it less of a headache as it sorted out the drivers automatically during setup.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago* (9 children)

    It depends on both the hardware and distro. I got a laptop RTX 3070 and depending on the distro I got different problems.

    On Linux mint, running some games in full screen will freeze the main screen

    On fedora KDE/Nobara, you can have an incompatible kernel version getting installed as an update, borking the system.

    On nix os KDE, blender doesn't want to render anything after waking from sleep (may be a blender issue.)

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    @RustyNova @MyNameIsRichard >On nix os, blender doesn’t want to render anything after waking from sleep (may be a blender issue.)seems to be cuda issue. On my machine cuda sometimes refusing to work after sleep, requiring some 'node restart'Might be fixed by disabling modeset (nvidia-drm modeset=0), or by blocking display server from using nvidia drm node (if display output does not use nvidia)

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah on fedora or any other rolling distros you've got to look it up online if an Nvidia driver has been released before upgrading the kernel. I always forget to do that and I'm forced to touch grass for a few days until the driver gets released.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Personally that was a deal breaker for me. After a long day at work, coming back to chill out and do some blender only to find out your setup is booked and now you have to fix the system, it really gets on you.

    Thankfully I had an old Linux mint partition I never cleaned up (Too lazy), so I could have continue, but the average user would just go "fuck Linux. Going back to windows".

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yes I switched to bazzite on by gaming PC for that reason. Works really well and I can always play my games without that fear, or the annoyance of windows. I always recommend bazzite to new users for this reason.

    Fedora works really well on my laptop tho

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not a big gamer (and factorio doesn't have the full screen issue) so I still use mint, but I'm gradually switching to nixos. Works better... If you add the correct config for game scope and the rest (easily found on the wiki)

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm still at least a year away from falling down the nixos rabbit hole, but I can hear it calling to me. Good luck tho

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    As a nix os user, I would recommend it if you are actually willing to learn the config language. It will be hard. And 2 months into actually making nix os my main machine, I still have no intuition with how to edit the config more than "copy paste this file, add the new code, import".

    Is it worth it? Ehh... I just like how I can actually know what's installed and not forget a 30 GB app I never use is still there

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    Yes. Don't brag.

    In all seriousness I haven't used nvidia for ~ 6 years. Back then my issues on nvidia were periodic updates breaking, or with multi monitors. On amd ive never had a driver update break...ive also switched to a single very large 4k so that may also help.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Lot's of circlejerking online. I have no doubt that some people have issues while having an nvidia card, and I also have no doubt that in some cases the driver might be to blame.

    But unless you fiddle things, go out of your way to "optimize things" by following some random posts or something like that, most common distros handles nvidia drivers properly. The same usual disclaimers applies though; being "bleeding edge" means you'll cut yourself, and all that.

    For people that just install a system (and I mean something well known to work, not "the latest craze you absolutely have to replace everything with", it's fine. They (nvidia) even ironed out most of wayland issues for a while now. There are still some minor lingering issues, but nothing most average users will notice.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Minor lingering issues like DP displays not consistently waking up after sleep without a hard power cycle, VRR and HDR being essentially unsupported, and basic driver functions like frame rate limits not working?

    Your average users might notice some of that..

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Running Debian 13 with a 3060ti with Nvidia drivers, 3 monitors mixed DP and HDMI, and as far as I can tell those all work just fine. Save for the VRR, I haven't tested that at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Mixing DP and HDMI works, using DP only causes issues with resume from suspend.

    This is my main problem with these "Nvidia is fine on Linux posts". People have something work in their specific setup, and assume it works in all setups, and that just isn't true.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not assuming it works in all setups. If people only talk about things that don't work though, it doesn't help move people to Linux. I've got a feeling that like with much of anything, the problems seemingly are overblown because those who aren't having problems don't have a reason to say so.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I wouldn't say my setup is that unusual: two monitors and a nvidia GPU from the 2010s. But I am stuck on Ubuntu 24.04 because it still has xorg -- my graphics card is not supported well on Wayland. I actually downgraded from 25.10 back to 24.04 to solve some wild display lag problems.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I've had a bastard of a time with Nvidia drivers in the past few weeks, though I'm honest enough to accept that a big chunk of that could well be a combination of user error, and that I have a fairly old 1060 GPU.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I've got a really old one, a 1060 or 1070 I forgot. Zero issues

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I made the mistake of updating to Kubuntu 26.05, and that was that. Dunno how, dunno why, but I could not load into a desktop. Tried uninstalling the nvidia drivers and reinstalling, but nope.

    Ended up wiping it and starting again with Arch, and even that wasn't particularly plain sailing. Had to roll back to an earlier driver.

    I'm happy to accept that it's probably user error, but man, they don't make it easy.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Nvidia drivers have worked fine for me on Mint, Parrot, and Artix. The only downside is they are pretty bloated and want to be loaded early in the boot process, so it adds several seconds to the initramfs load.

    I haven't tried compiling the image without them, mostly because it's only a few seconds on boot and I don't enjoy repairing broken boot images.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    2-3 years ago when I tried Fedora (I think shortly before Fedora 41 released)? Yeah, after a few hours of figuring out how to get them installed I had serious screen artifact issues still, and ultimately ended up back on Windows.

    Trying Bazzite a couple months ago with the drivers preinstalled and functional out of the box? No problems since then, games just work (except Crimson Desert for a month, but I didn't actually care to play it so that was fine), and I can actually focus on learning Linux without stressing over whether I can play my games.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    Yes it never worked right. Specially in all shitty laptops with a discrete nvidia card and how they all had different ways to be integrated. At least for personal laptops I only buy ones with simple integrated graphics, but was always a shitty situation with work laptops. It was particularly fun knowing that the hdmi port was only connected to the nvidia card so if I disabled the nvidia card on the bios basic shit like that wouldn't work. Let's not even mention how it was constantly crashing for sleep or when waking up.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I'm gaming on grandpa Debian using nVidia's CUDA repository for driver updates and I'm sitting fat and happy. Ignore instructions to install kernel headers for your specific kernel and just use the linux-headers-amd64 meta-package and it will automatically install new headers when the kernel updates. DKMS will rebuild the nvidia module for the new kernel and now kernel and nvidia driver updates are seamless. Performance is not noticeably different from when I was on Windows.

    The only improvement at this point would be kernel-level integration like AMD has so I don't need to add a repository, but aside from that I honestly don't see room for improvement.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Since I started using arch I've been fine. Ubuntu was rough though. Since Ubuntu and derivatives are mostly considered beginner friendly I can see how it might be a bigger issue. Maybe it is also a problem with older cards that don't get as many updates.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I switched to Linux because the nvidia drivers on windows got so bad my GPU was crashing once every boot. On Linux I regularly have significantly worse performance (especially in VR) but its more stable. I'm fine with a lower fps rather than just getting kicked out of games when the driver crashes.

    Would be nice if they worked on those performance issues, though.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    It's been fairly good for me on bazzite with my Nvidia card. I have to set some launch options in Steam from time to time to make HDR work but otherwise I'm happy (I had Nvidia issues on a different machine using Ubuntu but switched to different drivers and things improved)

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    nah i used mint for years with nvidia, it got good at least a couple years ago. i still have a thinkpad with nvidia running ultramarine, and i haven't thought about the drivers even once after installing.

    on the dumber side of the fence, sister was complaining about nvidia drivers being shitty on winslop, now she switched to amd and the drivers are way shittier.

    funny how it turned this way.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I had a problem on my work laptop with them about five years ago, but rolling back fixed it. Never on my personal machines.

    Edit: TBF, I’ve never had a personal laptop with an nVidia card. I generally prefer to build my own desktops, though I do have a laptop. It has an AMD GPU, also with no problems.

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    [–] 57 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    ugh even worse if you have a hybrid laptop. integrated amd and discrete nvidia.

    Kids, learn from me, do NOT buy an ASUS ROG Strix. less than 5 years old and thing is already on its deathbed with constant reboots and hanging at POST.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I'll do you one better: do not buy ANYTHING made by Asus. That stuff's built to fail as fast as possible.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    As a single data point to the contrary, I've been an ASUS guy for 15 years and always recommend to friends and family. I have an ROG Ally, all my Mboards are ASUS, same with my networking gear. I have an ASUS monitor from 2010 that my Dad still uses.

    They provide more settings to tweak out of the box than most of the other tech companies in the same price range.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Me with my Asus ROG Ally running Bazzite: πŸ’€

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Hey, if you already bought it, keep using it as long as it serves you. I'm still using the asus laptop that taught me this lesson, even after its touchscreen failed completely (about a month after the end of warranty) and it has a whole bunch of issues to watch out for, like sometimes staying partially on after shutdown and overheating in my bag. But it can still compute and run Linux Mint fine, so I'm not throwing it away. Just covered the asus logo with a sticker to save some face.

    But now that you know, don't buy anything new by asus. I hope for you that your Ally stays good for as long as you use it, but my experience and others' suggests that in a year or two it'll start to show its many flaws. The touchscreen is pretty important for a device like that, isn't it? Good luck.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks!

    I have a feeling that Asus can have like QC issues, unlike Dell. I have heard of bad and good stories about Asus. One good thing is they offer H/W at significantly cheaper rates which makes it very lucrative for the lower segment of the market. Also, Linux support on my Ally and my Asus laptop has been great.

    PS: I am not a Asus fanboy. In fact I might buy a Macbook next time.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I don't think that is a function of the nvidia GPU save that ANY discrete GPU will cause increased wear on battery and heat. Also something that starts out with 6 hours battery and now has 2 is a lot less useful than something which had 10 and now has 6.

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  • [–] 107 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Upgraded to an AMD card and suddenly Linux became perfectly reliable.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I had a 3060 and it wasn't that Linux wasn't reliable but it occasionally would receive an update that would require a video card driver update as well. I bought a 9070xt, sold the 3060, and haven't had a single issue since.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    Yeah, the nVidia shituation is much better than a decade+ ago, nowdays I just have to manually pause upgrades (of drivers, kernel, or both) for a few weeks once evey two years or so.

    I need to buy me some AMD. And AMD/Intel needs to build some high end GPU (for consumers I mean).

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  • [–] 35 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    My Nvidia driver has worked flawlessly in Fedora for the past 3 years. Not a single issue.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    The people who are yapping about this kind of stuff literally haven't even looked around or explored any of the options. Nvid drivers running flawlessly for years.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I've tried 6 different distros on my pc with nvidia graphics and none of them worked the way they shoudl have.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    What distros have you actually tried? And what does "not working like they should have" actually mean?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I tried Fedora, Debian, Bazzite, Nobara, CachyOS and some others I cannot recall. Not working ranged from jot being able to get through initial setup (fedora after install), not being able to install at all, unexplained graphical glitches everywhere and performance under any kind of load being worse than playing on a laptop.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I've used nearly every one of those distros and I've never had problems. Based on what you're describing, it doesn't sound like problems that exist inside the driver. Best of luck to you.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I've hobestly given up on linux for my desktop at least for a while. Mihht try it again in a year or so but rn it just does not seem destined to be.

    I've tried several times over the years. My laptop has been running fedora for 4 years now

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Sure bro, all the endless people having issues with those shitty drivers are at fault. Nvidia is making a whole new driver because they just love to do it, not because the old one is a huge mess.

    I'm doing my best helping family and friends with these things on various distros, but by now they all moved over to AMD or Intel or are in the process of it; even swapping out RTX 3000 series cards because the driver keeps fucking up and the Wayland support is a hot mess. Every single time the constant issues and glitches vanished once the Nvidia was thrown out. Nvidia on Linux is just hot garbage.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I mean, if there are working drivers that don't have issues, and you're using those that do, it's not entirely your fault, but also it's your fault.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    There are graphical interfaces for it if you're afraid of letters on the screen. You're making it sound like it's some kind of impossible ordeal, but even in shit distros (looking at you, Ubuntu) it's just pressing checkboxes (or, OH HORROR, copy-pasting words in the terminal, I'm shaking even thinking about it right now).
    And yeah, it's nvidia's fault for making shit drivers, and distros' mainterner's fault for choosing shit drivers to be included, but since good versions of the drivers exist, you gotta take some responsibility for not using them.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    if there are working drivers that don't have issues

    There aren't. Some distros come with Nouveau alone, which is often awfully slow or lags behind in support for new cards. Some by now ship with nouveau + NVK, which is still unsuitable for demanding tasks and has bugs as NVK is still beta. And some ship with the proprietary Nvidia driver which is a hot mess. Changing something about this usually ends up in a mess due to how the Nvidia driver has to install itself into the system every time an update runs, and the fact you have to basically rip out a kernel module for it (nouveau).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I'm on nobara and it's generally fine, until I try to plug in my TV via hdmi to game or watch tv from the bed. Idk if it's just that TV, or if it's having 3 displays, or even just mixing DP and HDMI, but it flips its shit when I do that. I plan to troubleshoot at some point when I'm not in such a cramped space.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (5 children)

    How did you get sleep to work?

    I'm also on Fedora with a 5060 and that's my only issue after getting it setup and fixing the initial black screen on boot. Runs games and my own CUDA code well.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    I haven't actually tried sleeping the system. It's a desktop, so it isn't something I generally do. I'll give it a try later tonight and let you know what happens.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    Warning, you might need to hard reboot because it won't wake up from sleep

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I just tested putting my desktop to sleep this morning and everything seems to have woken back up correctly.

    Here's the system summary if you're curious:

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    You're on a newer everything than me, except the hardware. I'm on Fedora 43, with kernel 6.19.11 (or 6.19.12? I don't remember exactly), and driver version 580.x, with an RTX 5060. I'll send a pic of the system info once I get home from work.

    Note that I can't update to Fedora 44 currently because my WiFi is borked.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I have a 3090 that I will replace with an AMD card the second it makes financial sense for me.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    If you don't have a video card, you don't have (video) driver issues.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I haven't had issues in ages, with Fedora at least. My laptop has NVIDIA and my desktop has AMD. Both are pretty stable.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Regular desktop stuff and gaming usually works fine. Problems start cropping up when you try to use some more advanced GPU-powered apps, or do development yourself. I've encountered even older OpenGL apps that fail to start unless you force them to use the Mesa software renderer.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, usually the issue I've seen is when drivers are optimized for specific games to show off hardware performance and then another application or game tries to emulate that game to take advantage of that optimization, but then the optimizations change and the application now is creating conflicts and errors, just as am example. If drivers followed more open standards and optimized to those instead of trying to draw out a few more FPS to market incremental upgrades rather than all that proprietary junk, it probably would solve some of those issues. But otherwise unless the applications keep up with reverse engineering the proprietary stuff, doing that ends up binding the application to a specific driver version and/or hardware. There's some value in optimizing specific hardware to specific software. It's how MACs and iPhones and such have always been successful. But outside of controlled ecosystems like Apple, it is a big burden for app developers to not have reliable middle layers.

    But not long ago it used to be that even just desktop environments like KDE and GNOME were super unstable on NVIDIA drivers. That seems to be a thing of the past, mostly, but older hardware does still have some of those issues and a lot of Linux users were brought to Linux to support older hardware. And so there still some bad reputation out there more than realistic expectations of a market that's driven by today's profit over keeping existing customers happy or future profit.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I've run modern AAA games with no issues, but using an emulator to play an old SNES game caused the driver to lock up. Apparently it has something to do with running 2 different screens? It's definitely not just using advanced features or games that push the envelope.

    When I was running Windows for games and Linux for other things, I think I had an nVidia driver problem once in something like 10 years. Once I switched to Linux completely (with the same hardware) the driver issues are frequent. This is using Bazzite so it's a base system that has been assembled for all nVidia Bazzite users, not a quirk of my particular setup.

    It's basically what you'd expect when 95% of nVidia GPU users (at least home users) are running Windows, and only 5% are on Linux. Windows gets a lot more QA effort, and Linux gets a lot more bugs.

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