Am I the only one who has no problems with Nvidia drivers?
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ugh even worse if you have a hybrid laptop. integrated amd and discrete nvidia.
Kids, learn from me, do NOT buy an ASUS ROG Strix. less than 5 years old and thing is already on its deathbed with constant reboots and hanging at POST.
I'll do you one better: do not buy ANYTHING made by Asus. That stuff's built to fail as fast as possible.
So far i've always had good luck with their motherboards, granted those are the only things from asus that i've bought, and my current motherboard is from 2019 i think.
As a single data point to the contrary, I've been an ASUS guy for 15 years and always recommend to friends and family. I have an ROG Ally, all my Mboards are ASUS, same with my networking gear. I have an ASUS monitor from 2010 that my Dad still uses.
They provide more settings to tweak out of the box than most of the other tech companies in the same price range.
Me with my Asus ROG Ally running Bazzite: π
Hey, if you already bought it, keep using it as long as it serves you. I'm still using the asus laptop that taught me this lesson, even after its touchscreen failed completely (about a month after the end of warranty) and it has a whole bunch of issues to watch out for, like sometimes staying partially on after shutdown and overheating in my bag. But it can still compute and run Linux Mint fine, so I'm not throwing it away. Just covered the asus logo with a sticker to save some face.
But now that you know, don't buy anything new by asus. I hope for you that your Ally stays good for as long as you use it, but my experience and others' suggests that in a year or two it'll start to show its many flaws. The touchscreen is pretty important for a device like that, isn't it? Good luck.
Thanks!
I have a feeling that Asus can have like QC issues, unlike Dell. I have heard of bad and good stories about Asus. One good thing is they offer H/W at significantly cheaper rates which makes it very lucrative for the lower segment of the market. Also, Linux support on my Ally and my Asus laptop has been great.
PS: I am not a Asus fanboy. In fact I might buy a Macbook next time.
I don't think that is a function of the nvidia GPU save that ANY discrete GPU will cause increased wear on battery and heat. Also something that starts out with 6 hours battery and now has 2 is a lot less useful than something which had 10 and now has 6.
I have one of those, and my solution was to permanently disable the Nvidia card in favor of integrated graphics. Yeah...
ProArt here with AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU. Zero issues on OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Just upgraded yesterday.
Upgraded to an AMD card and suddenly Linux became perfectly reliable.
I had a 3060 and it wasn't that Linux wasn't reliable but it occasionally would receive an update that would require a video card driver update as well. I bought a 9070xt, sold the 3060, and haven't had a single issue since.
Yeah, the nVidia shituation is much better than a decade+ ago, nowdays I just have to manually pause upgrades (of drivers, kernel, or both) for a few weeks once evey two years or so.
I need to buy me some AMD. And AMD/Intel needs to build some high end GPU (for consumers I mean).
Still has an issue with HDMI speed since HDMI is a proprietary spec and they don't allow 2.1 in open source drivers so it's stuck on 2.0 speed. Displayport is very good though.
Same. Hopefully AMD still bothers making GPU with...is it 1% market share while Intel gave up entirely again? Dire.
This is why I'm annoyed that AMD hasn't released a high-end graphics card for 4 years. I don't want to build a brand new gaming PC with a 4 year old GPU.
My Nvidia driver has worked flawlessly in Fedora for the past 3 years. Not a single issue.
The people who are yapping about this kind of stuff literally haven't even looked around or explored any of the options. Nvid drivers running flawlessly for years.
I've tried 6 different distros on my pc with nvidia graphics and none of them worked the way they shoudl have.
What distros have you actually tried? And what does "not working like they should have" actually mean?
I tried Fedora, Debian, Bazzite, Nobara, CachyOS and some others I cannot recall. Not working ranged from jot being able to get through initial setup (fedora after install), not being able to install at all, unexplained graphical glitches everywhere and performance under any kind of load being worse than playing on a laptop.
I've used nearly every one of those distros and I've never had problems. Based on what you're describing, it doesn't sound like problems that exist inside the driver. Best of luck to you.
Sure bro, all the endless people having issues with those shitty drivers are at fault. Nvidia is making a whole new driver because they just love to do it, not because the old one is a huge mess.
I'm doing my best helping family and friends with these things on various distros, but by now they all moved over to AMD or Intel or are in the process of it; even swapping out RTX 3000 series cards because the driver keeps fucking up and the Wayland support is a hot mess. Every single time the constant issues and glitches vanished once the Nvidia was thrown out. Nvidia on Linux is just hot garbage.
I mean, if there are working drivers that don't have issues, and you're using those that do, it's not entirely your fault, but also it's your fault.
There are graphical interfaces for it if you're afraid of letters on the screen. You're making it sound like it's some kind of impossible ordeal, but even in shit distros (looking at you, Ubuntu) it's just pressing checkboxes (or, OH HORROR, copy-pasting words in the terminal, I'm shaking even thinking about it right now).
And yeah, it's nvidia's fault for making shit drivers, and distros' mainterner's fault for choosing shit drivers to be included, but since good versions of the drivers exist, you gotta take some responsibility for not using them.
if there are working drivers that don't have issues
There aren't. Some distros come with Nouveau alone, which is often awfully slow or lags behind in support for new cards. Some by now ship with nouveau + NVK, which is still unsuitable for demanding tasks and has bugs as NVK is still beta. And some ship with the proprietary Nvidia driver which is a hot mess. Changing something about this usually ends up in a mess due to how the Nvidia driver has to install itself into the system every time an update runs, and the fact you have to basically rip out a kernel module for it (nouveau).
I'm on nobara and it's generally fine, until I try to plug in my TV via hdmi to game or watch tv from the bed. Idk if it's just that TV, or if it's having 3 displays, or even just mixing DP and HDMI, but it flips its shit when I do that. I plan to troubleshoot at some point when I'm not in such a cramped space.
How did you get sleep to work?
I'm also on Fedora with a 5060 and that's my only issue after getting it setup and fixing the initial black screen on boot. Runs games and my own CUDA code well.
I haven't actually tried sleeping the system. It's a desktop, so it isn't something I generally do. I'll give it a try later tonight and let you know what happens.
Warning, you might need to hard reboot because it won't wake up from sleep
I just tested putting my desktop to sleep this morning and everything seems to have woken back up correctly.
Here's the system summary if you're curious:

You're on a newer everything than me, except the hardware. I'm on Fedora 43, with kernel 6.19.11 (or 6.19.12? I don't remember exactly), and driver version 580.x, with an RTX 5060. I'll send a pic of the system info once I get home from work.
Note that I can't update to Fedora 44 currently because my WiFi is borked.
I have a 3090 that I will replace with an AMD card the second it makes financial sense for me.
If you don't have a video card, you don't have (video) driver issues.
I haven't had issues in ages, with Fedora at least. My laptop has NVIDIA and my desktop has AMD. Both are pretty stable.
Regular desktop stuff and gaming usually works fine. Problems start cropping up when you try to use some more advanced GPU-powered apps, or do development yourself. I've encountered even older OpenGL apps that fail to start unless you force them to use the Mesa software renderer.
Yeah, usually the issue I've seen is when drivers are optimized for specific games to show off hardware performance and then another application or game tries to emulate that game to take advantage of that optimization, but then the optimizations change and the application now is creating conflicts and errors, just as am example. If drivers followed more open standards and optimized to those instead of trying to draw out a few more FPS to market incremental upgrades rather than all that proprietary junk, it probably would solve some of those issues. But otherwise unless the applications keep up with reverse engineering the proprietary stuff, doing that ends up binding the application to a specific driver version and/or hardware. There's some value in optimizing specific hardware to specific software. It's how MACs and iPhones and such have always been successful. But outside of controlled ecosystems like Apple, it is a big burden for app developers to not have reliable middle layers.
But not long ago it used to be that even just desktop environments like KDE and GNOME were super unstable on NVIDIA drivers. That seems to be a thing of the past, mostly, but older hardware does still have some of those issues and a lot of Linux users were brought to Linux to support older hardware. And so there still some bad reputation out there more than realistic expectations of a market that's driven by today's profit over keeping existing customers happy or future profit.
I've run modern AAA games with no issues, but using an emulator to play an old SNES game caused the driver to lock up. Apparently it has something to do with running 2 different screens? It's definitely not just using advanced features or games that push the envelope.
When I was running Windows for games and Linux for other things, I think I had an nVidia driver problem once in something like 10 years. Once I switched to Linux completely (with the same hardware) the driver issues are frequent. This is using Bazzite so it's a base system that has been assembled for all nVidia Bazzite users, not a quirk of my particular setup.
It's basically what you'd expect when 95% of nVidia GPU users (at least home users) are running Windows, and only 5% are on Linux. Windows gets a lot more QA effort, and Linux gets a lot more bugs.
Same with Arch, they were slower to adopt Wayland but stability has been fine for the last decade.

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