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[–] 179 points 6 months ago

teal really proved living well is the best revenge.

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  • [–] 132 points 6 months ago (17 children)

    Neither one is someone I want to talk to but grey really should've just put the phone down and focused on that promising opportunity

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  • [–] 80 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I don't think grey actually has another "opportunity". This feels like a negging tactic to me.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Remind me what negging is again

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  • [–] 52 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    If I understand it correctly, it’s the use of negative framing of another person’s physical attributes or demeanor, constructed in the hope the receiver of the “negging” has low enough self-esteem to agree with the assessment and will assume the asshole is a person of higher intrinsic worth.

    There might be more to it, but I usually just think of it as a form of reverse psychology + emotional abuse.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    That's right, thanks. I haven't heard it in awhile

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

    Green has a decent counter play against being snubbed first, but it surely is a dick move versus just saying "okay, cheers".

    However, we humans do crave drama, and I've been entertained, so I think in the grand scheme of things, as a miniature Shakespearean tragic comedy, I will allow for it to be cosmically more good than bad. Perhaps they both learned something. Or it's all fake ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Having someone show their red flag this early warrants a "thank god" methinks. Also, "thank the flying spaghetti monster" is more like it.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Red flag? "This is going to sound bad but I need to cancel, sorry" is way more than you'll get dating, 90% of the time. IG they could've told them sooner, but I also don't know how serious things are. It looks like a perfectly adult response.

    Regardless, saying "Thank God" when you were just confirming a date with someone feels like a knee-jerk reaction to save face and insult the person you feel ditched you.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The proper and respectful way to cancel a date would be to say - for example - "look, I've thought this through and I am not feeling it, I changed my mind about further dates, I appreciate the time you spent with me & I wish you all the best!"

    The red flag here is mentioning someone "promising" and not wanting to miss the opportunity. It says in the same words "you are not a promising character". The comparison is the hurtful thing you don't say out loud if you want to be respectful of someone's feelings.

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  • [–] 57 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The one who flaked, and then said that there were better options. I’d respond just like the one who luckily got away.

    “Hey, I’m so sorry to do this, but, something came up”.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    "Excuse me?!? You're supposed to be absolutely crushed by me blowing you off! I'm clearly in the right and you should be upset about it."

    Green dodged a bullet.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    If grey's other opportunity didn't work out, they probably would have unashamedly reached out to green again for a new date, if that exchange hadn't happened.

    Non-zero chance they will anyways, especially if grey is a guy.

    Though I had a woman get surprised and upset when I declined a 3rd reschedule after she went uncommunicative twice when I asked the "we still on today?". Apparently she didn't have a mobile plan or internet at home and had to go to some public WiFi to communicate and both times had shit come up with her kids, though the second time was her son's birthday party, which isn't something that generally just pops up on you by surprise. It's not even punishment, just the emotional rollercoaster before we even had a first date killed any interest in having a good relationship with her, just like that cancelation message in the OP would have.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    oof, that sucks.

    Vaguely related story: Back in the Olden Times before ubiquitous wifi and data plans, I had a friend cancel on me after I'd already gotten in the light rail to meet him an hour away. He didn't call or text, just emailed, so I looked for him for almost an hour before giving up.

    Turns out he'd emailed me then was at the hospital with a friend who'd gone into labor, and didn't have his phone with him (so didn't get my calls or texts).

    My partner (who'd come with to meet my high school friend) and I had a good time in DC anyway. We went to a geeky bookstore and a nice cafe.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I hate people now. Nobody wants to keep their commitments. You can invite people to an event and they will all say yes, until a more enticing thing comes along and the flake on you last minute. If you say yes, be there, tell the other person “sorry I already made plans that day” like an adult

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    For me the issue is that everyone is always busy.

    Me: hey, how about we meet next Friday

    Person1: I can only do Sunday from 17 to 19

    Person2: I can only do Saturday

    Person3: I can do Sunday but from 19 to 21

    Person4: I can only do the Friday after that

    Or even better, they take 5 days to reply and in the end say something came up.

    But once I manage to find the one date that fits most people and plan something people do show up.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I mean that makes sense, your friends respect prior commitments.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Most of the time it's not like they are meeting other people. The commitments are like family visits every other week, traveling, studying, fixing something at home and so on. Occasionally it's some birthday party or something. It's mostly that everyone is busy all the time. Which I do understand but it takes a lot of of effort to organize something.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Edit: right, Doodle

    And wouldn't this also work as a local-wifi-only mobile app?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You mean doodle? It still exists but since polls are literally built into every messaging app now, its obsolete. It could be relevant if you have a one-time meeting with people who dont know each other and dont have a common messaging app.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Don't remember the name but I used it couple of times in corpo settings. I think it weird that we have to organize meetings with couple of friends the same way we organized team buildings. I mean, weekends are for resting. Why everyone has everything booked months in advance? I spend every weekend actively but I don't have a lot of plans that I can't drop to meet someone.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I for one will not invite you for anything if I don't want to do it with you. I also will not accept an invitation to do anything that I don't want to do with you. I greatly enjoy my own company and have a lot of things I love to do by myself. More people would be happier if they would learn to like themselves and found some hobbies.

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  • [–] 46 points 6 months ago

    Although rude, I appreciate when people tell me outright I'm not a priority for them. So I can adjust my own.

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  • [–] 45 points 6 months ago

    Mmm the ragebait tastes so good though I feel righteous and angered

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  • [–] 84 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Grey is definitely in the wrong, that's exactly when you should have used a white lie but they were being a huge dick.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Being dishonest about it would have been way worse.

    But grey's reaction after that is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Obviously you shouldn't cancel on someone because something more interesting came along. But I would say telling them that's the reason is worse than just not giving one or making up something.

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  • [–] 69 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    Greens response could've meant (s)he had a busy day at work and was glad to put their feet up. The bluntness met have been unintended.

    Grey then exploded and made it a problem, showing that green actually dodged a bullet.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    That doesn't make a lot of sense. The T could only be there when the S is also there. I think what you're going for would look more like

    (s/t)he(y)

    Or maybe

    (s)(t)he(y)

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Counterpoint: Grey’s responses take a solid 30 mins. Green does not bother to clarify what they meant that entire time.

    Did green go overboard? Yes. Could grey have communicated at all? Also Yes.

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    Youre blaming them for not responding for 30min? Im happy when people reply the same day, same goes for me. And Im glad people arent so obsessed with their phones that theyre constantly available.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    My mom once blew up at me because I didn't respond to her text for 23.5 hours.

    "Sorry to bother you. I thought you might give a fuck but I see I was mistaken. I won't bother you again."

    She didn't call, she didn't email, she just sent a text and then exploded when I didn't respond (because I didn't see it). Anyways, she's blocked now--I don't want to make a liar out of my mother, so I won't let her bother me.

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  • [–] 66 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Who's in the wrong here?

    Everyone in this thread who is too stupid to realize this is fake rage bait.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    See this is the variety of shitpost where it’s just a shit post.

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  • [–] 48 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I am for having read this. Doubly for commenting,

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Also green could have meant "thank god you found someone good luck"

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Tell me you got banned from reddit and miss it dearly without telling me

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I must be weird, or maybe it's because I used to date someone like Grey, but the impression I got about green is not that they said that because they didn't want to go out anyway, it was that they were glad grey revealed themselves to be uninterested in them even if it was kind of in a sleazeball way, acting like it was just fine to cancel last minute to go be with someone else.

    More like green was happy grey pretty much just sent up a red flag and confirmed that they dodged a bullet.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago

    You deserve this

    Damn right they deserve to be free from that kind of personality

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Gray does not understand the relief of cancelled plans.

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  • [–] 35 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I don't get why people are confused about this.

    Grey was horrible human being first. Green's reply was a response that horribleness. It's not like green was genuinely waiting to spring that.

    ...probably.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The only reason grey is in the won't is for not giving more notice. Like either cancel earlier or plan your other date on another night in the first place. Calling that "horrible" is a but strong IMO. Definitely rude and inconsiderate but dating is completely unpredictable these days.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I mean its 95% fake but it doesnt really make a difference for discussing it as if it was real.

    I think it deoends on the relationship between the two and the kind of meeting they had planned. If its a date and grey bailed for an other date, thats really shitty. If it was a casual meetup between friends and grey bailed for a dating opportunity, its not that shitty and green was a bit rude with the follow-up, but again depends on their relationship and how they usually communicate. In any case, the last few messages are completrly overboard.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Maybe they were pals and Green was saying "thank God" in a good-natured "yay, you finally got a date, happy for you bruh" manner but the response went right over Grey's head and led Grey to make a total ass of themself.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (8 children)

    Eh, even taking the must charitable view for the canceller, you could also bee charitable to the other one and say that everyone feels relief at cancelled social plans

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    Hm, not sure I understand what you mean? I dont think its common to feel relieved about cancelled plans. If you dont want to meet, why make plans in the first place?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I want the credit for hanging out without actually hanging out.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    OP, for the drama bait. Woof.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Lmao, the other person for sure. There's no reason to lose your shit like that

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    stop posting ragebait this isnt reddit

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Grey didn't value Green's time, even stated someone better came along. Green responded with shade in response for this lack of respect, Grey had a crash out because her lesser choice had teeth.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Interesting you feel that was the her. There at no genders stated.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, for most of the post they tried not to and a single "her" fell out. Something to consider.

    I feel it is an interesting question though. I too assigned genders while reading this the first time so is it naturally ingrained in me? Or is it because of the first person POV of text message exchanges like this?

    Are women reading this and assuming the other way around? Would a different format (eg changing the bubbles to other side, or paragraph format like in a novel) change who we think is which gender?

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  • I try to be impartial, but each misstep online gets hammered on hard because apparently you need to be perfect for the imperfect themselves. Changing now would just be admitting to something i"m not so you cannot win. Shrugs I do my best and try to not let small mistakes turn into mountains.

    As well I see other people posting the grey is female initially so that might have influenced me and I didn't see anyone else calling them out.

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