That means if Google’s verification system gets widely adopted, browsing the web could become a headache.
Using a phone to scan a QR code in order to access a website on my desktop is a headache even if it has no dependencies in particular.
That means if Google’s verification system gets widely adopted, browsing the web could become a headache.
Using a phone to scan a QR code in order to access a website on my desktop is a headache even if it has no dependencies in particular.
If you're a web dev, and you implement this, just know you won't receive my web traffic. Ill go live with the other robots and we will start our own internet with blackjack and hookers.
how do you do, fellow human
I too, enjoy the company of blackjack and to play hookers
I’m getting close to just giving up on the internet.
This goes well with another thing I say : "If your website only works on Chrome, your website doesn't work"
Web devs who implement this won't care about your traffic.
Ignoring the de-Googled phones for a sec: I assume if you're using a desktop, then the QR shows up and you have to drag out your phone to scan it in the camera app that then prompts to open the google play store. Dumb, but possible for people who have a phone with Android. What about those that don't? Would you need a google account?
Now if it's all on phone (using Chrome or Firefox or whatever) and pops up a QR code, you can't scan it... but the browser would have to open the play store directly and thats a huge security no-no. The browser shouldn't even know I have the Play Store.
I have a feeling the hundreds of us that are de-Googled ad just going to stop using these sites all together.
Yeah, so the hundreds of us won't be able to use the internet anymore if this passes
Awesome
Google doesn't care about screwing up the lives of thousands of people, as long as it can capture the information of millions.
At this part I'm genuinely starting to wonder which parts of the internet I really need.
We will (actually already have) make our own Internet, with blackjack, and hookers.
...and what about iPhone owners?
https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652
According to this support page only older iOS versions would need additional app. So I can assume Apple and Google collaborate on that and Apple added the "feature" in newer iOS already.
And desktop users? Will Linux and any non-Google Chrome browsers be locked out now?
The browser shouldn't even know I have the Play Store.
Every app on your Android phone knows every other app you have installed. GrapheneOS are trying to solve this but it's challenging.
I'm not even de-Googled (yet) and I wouldn't bother with this shit. It's an instant close in that tab, and if it's something I need then I'll find another service.
Once this is implemented, Google will have finally succeeded in closing the entire fucking internet. That is, assuming this will become anywhere successful and smaller websites will be using it as well.
A lot of Android bot devices simulate (or even ARE) a full phone with a legit Play Store and other Google services.
This requirement is enforced vendor lock in. Nothing more.
Wait wait wait. To prove you’re human you have to read something designed for computers to read?
To be honest, most of what they use now is pretty easy for machines to do. Mostly because they've been using the captcha to train ocr and self driving.
OMG is that why I always have to identify bicycles and crosswalks? That makes sense.
And started off with letter identification to help with reading scanned books. For example, place 3 known 'R's tell users to select all R's. If majority of people select 4 R's then that unknown 4th R becomes a known letter
I knew that function. And improving OCR felt like a worthwhile endeavor to crowdsource. There are a lot of old books that we need to digitize before we lose them forever.
The pivot to recognizing things for self-driving cars makes a lot of sense, but I really don't like the idea that I'm increasing shareholder value for Tesla.
This is awesome news for scammers:
Would this pass in EU? Seems anti competition. Do we need another movement like stop chat control to mobilize people?
It's not just anti-competition, but anti-privacy - Google will know exactly who is going to what sites, regardless of your browser.
Probably not, but my expectations is the EU will slam them with a record fine of 0.03% of their monthly revenue after 5 years of investigations and obligation to provide an alternative solution, that they will work around so it still does not fix anything.
By the time the damages would be done.
Has anyone seen the benefits of EU's mandatory opening of chat systems to third parties yet??
Yeah, this should definitely not be allowed. Google should not be allowed to dictate which operating systems people are allowed to use. And no doubt that this is harmful to many European companies and prevents competition in the space of mobile operating systems.
That said, it remains to be seen if anything will get done about it.
Then I'll just not use the services that use it, very stupid, as this shouldn't be necessary
This is evil. Fuck it. I want nothing to do with these cunts anymore. I'm degoogling this year.
My weather apps force google play integrity checks too 💀
Don't use those apps, there are alternatives.
Monopoly, anybody?
Naaaahhh, this is just good old fashioned American freedoms
There is a fucking huge market for non Google non iPhone come on somebody get the fuck on it
I really hate the idea that any car I buy in the future is going to come stuffed with fucky software that I don't want. Software defined car my fucking brown asshole.
I don't want some old jalopy with a carburetor and crank windows, but there's so little benefit to the individual for all the shit that I can't imagine wanting it.
I do my own repairs and I hate that half the time I need to get my laptop out to reset a thing, clear a code, re-initiate some shit. Pulling the battery cable off used to work for most things, but not anymore and for a long time.
I bought the car, but they own the software? So if I want do change or repair something, I have to pay them, but if the software shits the bed, I have to pay them? Everything ends with me paying them for something I already paid for.
Fuck that.
Sailfish is awesome. It just doesn't work on any phones that work in north America anymore.
Big market, but also huge barrier to entry to get a phone ecosystem off the ground. MS, Amazon, Facebook, Mozilla and many others have tried and failed. Apple and Google have huge moats
monopoly capital tisk tisk tisk... we need to keep the children safe... don't you care about the children?
This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human.
How is this going to work if you're browsing the internet on your phone??
the surgically implanted chip is required to be scanned
How is this going to work if you’re browsing the internet on your phone??
Easy, they force you to install an app, just click the link and agree to all the permissions and cookies and stuff. It might be malware, it might be legit, who knows?

Google copying UI workflows from literal malware developers...
You can screen grab to get it using the stupid Gemini shit
I was wondering how they would screw the new Motorola phones coming out since they couldn't do the whole "factory operating system has been tampered with" mode of whining and being little bitches.
Glad to see their engineers came up with another way to fuck us! Thanks google!
We need to move away from Google. Just make them obselete.
It SHOULD spell bad news for the people that use this verification method because it just means they lose those customers.
I would never scan a qr code to verify that I'm not a bot. I'd simply close the page
We'll talk about that again when all banks, online reservation, government websites all require the new captcha.
Oh, but you can still join us by phone to talk to an AI agent or wait forr 240mins of average waiting time for a human operator.
Banks love to reinvent the wheel and definitely can't trust Google to be part of their workflow, as Google will 100% change UI or steps or rename the app or discontinue the app while replacing it with an identical one but with a different name but less features with no advance notice. Relying on Google for banking workflow means that one day the bank user support will be overwhelmed by requests like "the button disappeared, where is it now"
For the rest of stuff, this system IMHO has too much friction, the bounce rate will be too high. Businesses won't like to pay for a bot detection system (it costs $1 per 1000 verifications) that will push humans away while bots pass it without problems (either by using the accessibility workaround or by using those smartphone farms in southeast Asia)
Even worst there is a huge privacy concern here. Google would associate who's browsing anonymously in desktop with their phones which Google has more access on your information. It is already a privacy concern before but at that time they go in a roundabout way, today we just give them the platter.
So more Linux phones?
I've scanned 4 QR codes in my life. 2 were not what I was told they would be.
I will never scan a QR code again.
I scanned a QR code once. I got JSON data back, with embedded links and other useless metadata.
Better use the self-checkout while you still can!
https://www.gs1us.org/industries-and-insights/by-topic/sunrise-2027
Surely this would be nearly impossible for visually impaired people, which makes me question the ability for governments to implement this on their websites.
I know about screen reader software for visual impairment, but to expect a blind person use a separate device with a camera to take a “photo” of a QR code on another screen is beyond comprehension. Well, at least it would be in the normal timeline.
I guess I’ll have to switch to a dumb phone out of spite now.
It turns out reCAPCHA has been a privacy nightmare from the beginning: from silently monitoring user activity in the background, to sending payment information to Google; in order for an AI to assess the data, and return a risk-score to the website. But that apparently wasn't bold enough, and now an effective 2FA is required, which provides additional telemetry to Google (but not to the website or app: which is obviously the privacy concern). So get ready to 2FA with Google upon registration, login, updating your cart, and payment; or to skip the hassle, you should just let an approved "shopping assistant" make purchases for you ("that drive a projected 25% increase in average order value"). I don't even own a modern Android or iOS device, so how am I supposed to solve these?
I think I'll just go to a local store and pay in cash instead. I'm starting to think the Amish have the right idea, anyone know where I can rent a horse and buggy?
Yeah, on the rare occasion where I do order something online, and happen to trip up the convoluted system, I rather give the webshop a call, than giving into this dystopian nonsense. And I've long done away with any mainstream platforms, which I suspect will happily adopt the system (especially those who forced me to adopt 2FA: which was seemingly just in preparation of this...). I'll happily function as an example, to illustrate just how morally unjust it is, to effectively force someone to purchase and use a device they explicitly chose not to use; I really want to hear someone justify that.
I think there's few people left, which do not believe we've gone too far with technology, so the Amish to some extend are definitely onto something.
google allows V3 version to be used REDDIT , thats why there has ben a huge amount of bans last year. alledgely to catch bots or whatever.
Fuck that. One of the biggest offenders of web scraping and bot traffic wants to force us all to install their spyware just to verify that we're human when there have already been much simpler ways to do this without that bullshit captcha for years...
This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human. Although this will stop an autonomous bot in its tracks, it also adds another step to verification. But the problem runs a little deeper than the annoyance of a single additional step.
I didn't see what the spec of this new recaptcha is but my first thought is an android emulator and a free google account combined with whatever bot/LLM wants to pass through is probably going to be what happens.
And as we all know, they're going to say that not using a Genuine™ Android® Operating System is extremely suspicious.
That's probably ok. Google doesn't give a damn about protecting websites from bots. They just want to know what YOU are doing on the web.
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