Palantir CEO and Trump ally Alex Karp is no stranger to controversial (troll-ish even) comments. His latest one just dropped: Karp believes that the U.S. boat strikes in the Caribbean (which many experts believe to be war crimes) are a moneymaking opportunity for his company.

At the New York Times’ DealBook Summit on Wednesday, Karp was asked about the worries over the unconstitutionality of the boat strikes.

“Part of the reason why I like this questioning is the more constitutional you want to make it, the more precise you want to make it, the more you’re going to need my product."

This is bond-level villainy.

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[–] 73 points 6 months ago

Palantir is the enemy of humanity.

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  • [–] 55 points 6 months ago

    He is correct, but the conclusion to draw from that is that the system that allows those businesses to exist needs to be remedied.

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  • [–] 42 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Too many Lex Luthors walking around these days.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (5 children)
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    Yeah, timing. America has two important Constitutional checkpoints to get past before we are more or less in the clear - the 2026 Midterms, and the 2028 Presidential Election.

    We have to keep a lid on untill we get through the Midterms, which promises to be a bloodbath, even if they get the gerrymander they want. They think they can win by manipulating the number of competitive seats, but they have no clue of how angry people are. There are many, many seats in competition who don't know it, and a lot of well-established MAGAs, who convinced themselves they were safe, are going to be crying on the day after.

    Then we have to get through 2 lame duck years, which is going to get crazy, as he tries increasingly outlandish stuff to try to stay in power so he doesn't go to prison for the rest of his life, or worse. We will try to keep the lid on for that period, but it may get tough, and maybe even impossible, if they decide to go full on brutal dictatorship in order to hold onto power. Then Luigis will be everywhere. Take away people's hope, take away their reasons for existence, and they might as well go out with a bang.

    And if they steal the 2028 election, it's on.

    But if we can get through the 2028 election without a Civil War, and we get a new president who is courageous enough to deal with MAGA decisively, and purge them from our government and society, then we can maybe have a decent country for the rest of this century.

    But we have to get through the 2026 and 2028 elections first. They are literally the most consequential elections since the Civil War, and maybe in our nation's history.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    When I was a kid, all I wanted was to be rich so I couid be Batman. How did we end up in this world full of jokers?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Therein lies the problem. When I was a kid all I wanted to be was spider-man so I could help people.

    Notice the difference?

    Batman/Iron Man/ et. al are ok as heroes but really their super power realistically should be the number of people they could lift out of poverty with that money. The fact that they haven't speaks volumes.

    I don't blame the writers per se. They exist in a world same as ours so God forbid a billionaire give away all their money because no one needs all that money.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    In the defense of Batman he does actually try to lift people out of poverty in lots of versions. Wayne industries is basically the only thing keeping Gotham vaguely functional because that city is quite literally cursed while also being in New Jersey.

    Like it varies by version but at least with the animated version Batman is dumping cash into charities, job programs, urban revitalization program, infrastructure expansion and repair, and probably some things I'm forgetting. Point is Batman knows that the difference between crime and prosperity is poverty, which he has done his best to eliminate, now he's stuck with the personally and ideologically motivated as well as the weirdos. Hell some versions of Batman have cured Mr. Freeze and Nora once he found out what was going on with that.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    I'm thinking of another thing that can move a lot the businesses: hunting CEOs.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago

    I'm GLAD we're giving HIM Taxpayer Money INSTEAD of Teachers or Hospitals or Children!

    -LITERALLY EVERY Republican Voter!

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    I will keep saying this till I die, aspiring to be a billionaire is a very strong sign of multiple mental diseases involving addiction and sociopathy.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I would argue that "aspiring to be a billionaire" is more of a fantasy than a fixation in the population at large. People don't really get to choose whether they become billionaires, as they have very little control over the mass appeal of their business ventures.

    I would counter that becoming a billionaire is what results in multiple mental illnesses, as the rapid elevation of social status, the alienation from your non-billionaire peers, and the functional immunity from legal censure drives you insane.

    Like, JK Rowling didn't set out to become a billionaire when she wrote Harry Potter. But once her net worth crested into the nine-figures, her mouth-brain barrier disintegrated along with any sense of humility or decency.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't know if this is accurate — striving to reach financial freedom in the form of near infinite levels of wealth is not a sign of mental disease. That's what I'd call a dream, and it could be purely motivated.

    Now, having that dream and being willing to do anything to obtain it — that's a different story. That's what it takes to be a billionaire, you have to be completely willing to crush people beneath you for the simple fact that it makes you more money. Many people, myself included, are simply incapable of deciding to harm someone else for simple profit.

    Like, I'm not a hyper space nazi because I'd like to be a Viltrumite. I just want to live 1000 years and be super strong and fly and stuff.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Having billions is not financial freedom, it is thousands of financial freedoms. It is hoarding financial freedoms. To that end I can understand someone wanting something on the order of millions, especially depending on where you live (although that is still a shortcoming of education, healthcare, homing systems etc)

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    damn I dream of letting this guy loose in the forest at night, butt naked, so I can hunt him with my dogs. They love the scent of fear

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Apparently free speech is when you can't criticize Israel but can advocate for war crimes.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    The quote, from _Star Trek VI:The Undisovered Country __ by Kurtwood Smith as the President of the Federation, "Just because one CAN do a thing, does not necessarily mean one MUST do a thing." I swear, if we quote the Oracle at Delphi any more in humanity, we might seem insane to any extra-terestrial beings. /s?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So, was Farenheit 451 about keeping the idiots from the ideas that were dangerous, or simply convincing them to willingly build the torment nexus? Instructions unclear, critical debate needed.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Uncertainty is a wing of the Torment nexus surely. The only way to leave it is through certainty, but you'll never know if what you're certain about is actually true

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    Slavery was pretty good for business too I hear.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    This dude has got to be trolling otherwise he needs to be put in a mental institution.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (20 children)

    Carp, Thiel, Musk, Vance and a bunch of these douchebag technofascists subscribe to this really nonsensical philosophy called “dark enlightenment “ it’s basically just the feudal system with mass surveillance and AI to enforce it. They openly advocate for the dismantling of democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Except China does it to drive national interest, the above forementioned people do it for personal wealth or power growth

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Thats meaningless, Carp, thiel and musk could say the exact same thing

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    But they're capitalists and beholden to shareholders and profits? They're not the same. I don't condone China's actions around privacy and control. But I also think it's erroneous to compare them to China.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    How is it not a fair comparison? They want to remove all minorities - China removed/is removing ~8 different ethnic minorities, they want a surveillance state with total control - China has a surveillance state with total control, they want a full censored media - china has a fully censored media. The other things is they're willing to do whatever it takes to reach that goal just like china. All their end goals are basically a powerful group of unelected people ruling over everyone with total control. The cope they all tell themselves(including china) is that they'll be benevolent. I'm sick of seeing people hand wave all this just because they built a train and some houses(btw a lot of houses in china are shit, they're tiny and fall apart and the ones you actually want are still unaffordable).

    Also corporations can operate however they want and that its just an overused meme to cite Dodge v. Ford as forcing them to maximize shareholder value.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Well china has lifted 800 million people out of poverty and these men want to force most of us into poverty or worse because they’re literally fascists

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    So the ends justify the means? If that's the case then you basically agreed with these evil cunts because they claim their goals are for the good of people. They are dumb but they aren't describing a dystopia any more than China is a dystopia.

    Personally i wouldn't go down the chinese route and kill 100 million people just to have the dogshit human rights, labour rights and environmental regulations and go from 50c to $1.20 a day.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    DHS has literally said they plan to get rid of 100 million people. Stephen miller has talked about it and project 2025 has too.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    Ok but you'd be ok with that since the ends justify the means to you.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    Dude seriously American capitalism has killed way more than 100 million. Your Chinese strawman isn’t an effective argument. Especially when we’re constantly starting wars all over the world and literally bankrolling a genocide.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    America has killed 100 million people thats crazy how did they do that?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don't think anyone is spuiking how fantastic china is. They have serious flaws, but they have also had huge improvements in quality of life, poverty, engineering etc. Just to be clear also, China has taken such a staunch stance in nationalism since the bullfuckery of England, America and Japan.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Then why make the defense? Why jump in and "um actually this dictatorship was pretty good" if you arent trying to spuiking how fantastic china is. China doesnt have anything that other successful democracies dont have. As it stands China has done far worse than Carp, Thiel, Musk, Vance

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I never said the dictatorship was good. Its not accurate to compare a capitalists who are purely for self enrichment to a country that is lifting people out of poverty. They're not the same.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Capitalism and capitalists were a major factor in lifting those people out of poverty by the way. credit markets, FDI, private firms, and export growth were all a reform away from communism towards capitalism and western style market economies. Its also lifted people out of poverty all around the world.

    I dont like either of these side these people exist to seize power and maintain absolute control over people. They are both terrible which is why im comparing them and not trying to say one of them is actually good/not bad.

    All I have to say is CCP propaganda really got people good. yall see a high speed train and a meh healthcare policy and are immediately ready to throw away your freedoms and morals. You're from Aus you have it better than China, you're richer, have better housing, better healthcare, better social security, better quality of life. All without needing to put all your trust and future in a Authoritarian leader. You have Albo, id kill to have Albo as PM.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    China invests in infrastructure these tech douchebags are welfare queens extorting the American taxpayer to the detriment of our infrastructure. China has universal healthcare. China has affordable housing and affordable food. These techdouchebags don’t want to invest in any of that they want a permanent slave class and the pedophile oligarch class. China literally executes people like this. What we are facing is much much worse and American capitalism has killed well over 100 million people

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    34th Rule of Acquisition: War is good for business.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    [Karp]>“Part of the reason why I like this questioning is the more constitutional you want to make it, the more precise you want to make it, the more you’re going to need my product."

    Blowing up unarmed fishing boats is not a "constitutional question" it's a straight-up criminal act. War crimes are well-defined, so there's no wiggle-room about what one IS.

    The problem with constitutional immunity is that it protects indiscriminately. And presidents are using it to commit acts of barbarism rather than as necessary acts to protect national security.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 6 months ago

    War crimes are well-defined, so there’s no wiggle-room about what one IS.

    It's not a war crime actually. A nation state cannot declare wars on individuals under which the war crime would come about. Article 7 of the Rome statute (The UN thing that defines war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, etc.) defines blowing up civilians as a crime against humanity.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Ill bet my nuts that this guy is on drugs.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Not saying someone should assassinate this guy. But man would it be convenient for someone to off this guy.

    Also he has meth teeth. Bro is a drugo.

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  • He created a company named after the evil wizards spy glass, he is not subtle about his villainy

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    We’re not subject to the ICC/ICJ.

    Never signed that treaty.

    In the US what makes a war crime criminal is the UCMJ and various other us law codes. We get rid of things like “no double tapping” and “you can declare no quarter be given” and suddenly it’s legal.

    (There is a very pointed distinction between legal and moral. Explaining that to these fucks is useless.)

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    If we just make murder legal, I'll be able to murder anyone I want! Wouldn't that be great? Give that to me, I have to have it, I demand it.

    MAGA: Okay.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Do we need a purge? One day per year for doing something about the CEO problem?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    “you would have to make 100% sure of the exact conditions it’s happening in, and in order to do that, the military would have to use Palantir’s technology, for which it pays roughly $10 Billion under its current contract.”

    Trump could do the funniest thing - call Palantir essential for national security, buy it under Eminent Domain “at a reasonable price” (let Trump call it 20x forward earnings instead of 220x or ~10% current market cap), and let the competency of the government run it’s course until the whole thing has degraded

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Jesus fucking Crapcakes.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Does this guy ever stop and think, "the shit I say is fucking horrible and makes me look like an irredeemable asshole?"

    With his shitty hair style, probably not.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    Are we VC funding target lists because it's illegal to pay for them?!

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Having no ethics and morals makes more money in unregulated capitalism, more news at 11

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    He's making a great case against whatever business he's in.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Alex Karp realized only hell was real, leading him to realize that he must be as evil and cruel as possible in this life to secure a seat at Satan’s dining table.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    He’s saying we should codify war crimes as crimes in the constitution so in order to not commit war crimes presidents would need the precision targeting Palantir would provide. That’s the exact opposite of what the title implies.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago

    I'll find myself nodding and agreeing with so many of his values in the first half but then there's this sudden hard left like whoa what, chill for a sec man

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