A lot of women had stopped using these types of apps ever since the forced birthers overturned Roe, knowing this type of thing could be used against them.
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Use softwares that are open sourced and be happy. There's plenty of period tracking apps on F-Droid.
Open sourced softwares can't hide trackers from users since the source code must be up-to-date. If not, people will be suspicious. And if a open sourced software do use trackers, the community will complain... a lot!
We can't trust any of them. They'll sell it to the government for those pregnancy lists too, to combat abortion.
The lying the app did in their priv policy is shitty behavior. But not unusual behavior.
The phone app ecosystem is a hot mess of treachery.
I love fucking up their data.
Haha, bitches I had no ovaries to begin with, and now you think I'm ovulating soon!
Mwahahaha :3
Is there anything FOSS like this?
There are a few:
- https://f-droid.org/packages/com.drip
- https://f-droid.org/packages/ch.nilsgrob.android.bluemoon
- https://f-droid.org/packages/com.mensinator.app
I'm not a user of any of those, but from descriptions and screenshots alone they look decent.
I use Drip for basic cycle tracking. I don't use it for fertile phase tracking so no comment there.
For cycle tracking, it does what it needs to do. It's easy enough to setup and completely forget what tracker/spyware I used to use. Heck, I think it was Flo I used to use.
And f-droid or another alternative app stores not mandatory, Drip is on the Google Play store at least. Not sure about Apple.
Poison the data. It's time for all you men to go log your manstrual cycle.
The idea of putting this info on my phone has always seemed bonkers to me. Just keep a journal of it, on paper, if this is so critical for you to know for some reason. My daughter used to use one but she deleted it as soon as the Roe v Wade stuff happened, she had no reason to be using it anyway
The idea that putting this on your phone is bonkers is bonkers to me. Why would you want to carry around a journal or paper when you have everything on your phone? It can also be more easily backed up and synced.
It shouldn't be normal that this data is stolen and sold. That is 100% the problem, not the fact that people track things on computers.
It shouldn't be normal that this data is stolen and sold. That is 100% the problem, not the fact that people track things on computers.
it shouldn't be, but that's the world we live in. we can't change it anymore.
No, but you can still choose to choose software that doesn't steal and sell your data. You can also support laws that make doing this illegal.
This is why I have a period tracker app despite being a non-menstruator so they get bad data.
I’m currently dealing with infertility and perimenopause.
Periodical uses no permissions. Not even network permissions. Can't get more private than that.
Yes but you don’t know they aren’t doing the same thing.
What we need are apps that use your own cloud data and are prevented from making network connections outside of that by the OS
I mean, you kinda do because F-Droid maintainers check for 'anti-features' like that before approving each app to be added to the repository. That's the big benefit of it over something like Obtainium.
I haven't checked myself, but I think it's very likely that there's at least one period-tracking app on F-Droid that doesn't require network permission at all.
If the data goes to their cloud, fdroid can’t check for anything.
If the app makes network connections…. You need to assume anything it can access on your phone is shared with a malicious third party.
Why do you keep talking about cloud shit? What part of "[they probably don't] require network permission at all" did you not understand?
In fact, if some app's data did "[go] to their cloud," F-Droid would slap a big fat anti-feature warning label on it saying "this app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service" and not put an install button in the list in the search results, forcing you to go through an extra step if you still wanted to install it!
I don't know why you're trying to fearmonger so hard when F-Droid really does everything it can to protect you from shit like this, short of actively restricting you itself.
Oh boy… You don’t know what “cloud” means.
If an app stores info on their servers, they have access to it. This isn’t something only big tech does. Any app may store user account information, general app data, etc. if you can use it on your desktop and you can use it on your phone… guess where that data is…. ☁️ 🧠
As I said above, what we need are more apps allowing the use of private data storage. Your own “cloud” (server). And then an OS level block of all network connections besides that single source.
What part of "no network" you do not understand? There's no cloud in Drip, the one mentioned. Not from a company, not your own. It doesn't even have the network connectivity.
I mean in general. Not focusing on the specific app.
You started three chain of replies on a comment in favor of a specific app, Drip.
Then double down being condescending on your lack of understanding.
So understand people aren't engaging positively with you.
As I said above, what we need are more apps allowing the use of private data storage. Your own “cloud” (server).
Right. And F-Droid actively encourages exactly that by calling it an "anti-feature" whenever an app connects to a network service but fails to work with the service of your choosing.
I'm literally telling you about the thing that addresses your exact concern, and yet you're nonsensically bitching that I'm somehow the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about? What the fuck is wrong with you?
What the fuck!! What the actual fuck!!!!
It's really frustrating how people still trust their sensitive personal data to apps like this.
Can anyone recommend a data secure self hosted option preferably with easy docker compose variables?
I'm going to start using 'creamy' to describe how I'm feeling.
Reminds me of that Derrick Comedy sketch with Donald Glover about mercury poisoning. "How are you feeling?" "SLIIIIImy"
Lmao, I don't know that one.
I'm not in this race, but wouldn't it make more sense at this late stage, to simply not use any a phone apps whatsoever anymore? For this?
Big Evil Tech is going to take everything from us. Why would any educated people still use a period-tracking app? I'm sure going back to pre-cellphone, pen & paper calculations would be better?
We shouldn't have to go back to pen & paper to avoid big tech; that's an absurd overreaction to the point of almost coming across as a strawman argument. We should expect to have privacy-respecting alternatives (e.g. from F-Droid, as others in the thread are mentioning) available, as well as effective consumer protection laws.
The solution is not to just give up; the solution is to force the world to get better.
Sadly despite all the bad news over this most regular users don't give a shit and like the convenience.
NGL here... anything personal like apointments and health issues you gotta keep in an actual wall calendar in your home. Given how the tech companies are all data happy - if it's tied to an app on a computer or phone or whetever - it's a given that what info you record WILL be mined.
Personal privacy starts at the point where you keep your shit non-digitally.
keep in an actual wall calendar in your home.
There's no need to go so primitive in response; just stick to offline FOSS apps that individuals made with no Internet permissions. F-Droid/Droid-ify has multiple offline period trackers.
... Wait, you are on Linux, right?
Naah. I'm running ancient hardware at this time.. My main home machine is a MacPro3,1 from 2008 - and running an unsupported install of macOS (I'm typing on a literal dumpster dive 2010 MacBook pro also running an unsupported macOS install) and faffing around with getting my gaming PC (a former hackintosh from 2014) set to run Bazzite - but all my hardware's ancient (I have ONE newer piece of hardwre to my name - a GTX 3060 and that is it.) so most of my plans are on hold.
For the macOS, I'm in the "security through obscurity" hole right now.. (I do have Little Snitch and the firewall called Lulu running and tons of privacy tools in my browsers) and the PC only has Steam, GOG and Epic accounts on it.. Not even an email.
I'm not earning shit at this time, so am somewhat limping along with the old kit I have. Got no budget for new hardware.
But... that... that's one of the primary selling points of Linux (which is free, as you know): working marvelously on old hardware. You can even install entirely with no desktop if you're an expert in the terminal...
Well, you're very obviously knowledgeable about what you're doing, so carry on. I just think we don't have to be Amish with private information as long as we're aware of what we're using to access it.
It's not so much being amish as it is choosing, with a bit of circumspection, what to digitize and what not to. That wall calendar is 100% resistant to hacking and most people today won't even look twice at one if they're in a house.
More security through obscurity, in a way..
But I totally get the hardware/linux angle. My issue is hardware just starting to wear out. Got 2 PCI slots on the Mac already with dry solder joints and I just need to take a week and rip it all apart and reflow them all.. I just don't have the energy or focus, what with work.


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