Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., the ranking member of the Science Committee, said in a statement, "This is the latest stupid move made by a president who continues to harm science and American innovation. The NSB is apolitical. It advises the president on the future of NSF. It unfortunately is no surprise a president who has attacked NSF from day one would seek to destroy the board that helps guide the Foundation. Will the president fill the NSB with MAGA loyalists who won't stand up to him as he hands over our leadership in science to our adversaries? A real bozo the clown move."

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[–] 32 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Fascism doesn't want education or truth. It just wants loyalists who follow the fascist doctrine

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So that's what the shooting was a distraction from

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The USA is killing itself and everyone is just shrugging.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago*

    72% of Republicans think the US is going in the right direction. They are not just shrugging, they are applauding.

    It is pretty clear at this point that almost nothing Trump could do would lose their support. How can the US ever work if Republican voters are so utterly detached from reality? It is likely a symptom of corrupt media.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Honest question: does he have the authority to do this? Not that it changes anything in the immediate term, just wondering if this is yet another move that will eventually be undone by the courts.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    He didn't have the authority to do half the stuff he has. Why should this be any different?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    "... Will the president fill the NSB with MAGA loyalists who won’t stand up to him as he hands over our leadership in science to our adversaries? A real bozo the clown move."

    Laying it on the line for Pedophile President Drink Bleach.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I hate Trump as much as most people, but Zoe Lofgren is quite literally one of the most corrupt of the congressional class. She has been in office for decades and enriches herself through silicon valley tech donations...

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    [–] 173 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    These fucking freaks really are absolutely intent on dragging us back to the dark ages.

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  • [–] 90 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    They told you this to your faces the first time you elected him.

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  • [–] 80 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I had nothing to do with voting them into power. I voted for decent people. Unfortunately myself and millions of others were drowned out by people who bought into the grift or saw them as an in to be able to say slurs and hate women, since that seems to be what they wanna do.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    The dems really screwed the pooch with that one. If it had been a flipped ticket, trump would have lost by a landslide.

    A black man being president is what started the MAGA movement, the US is still far too racist and sexist to have a black female president.

    Its bullshit, but it's reality.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    But Kamala was going to support Israel or something...

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, and Trump gave no indication he would do anything different with regards to Israel

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Someone should write a Dr Seuss style book about this circular debate on voting so people can move on and argue about more pertinent stuff.

    If you don't move on and find it in yourself to be angry at the system as a whole then you're still going to be ranting about this in 20 years. It'll become a part of who you are.

    The system catered to white suprrmacy and wealth, exactly as it was designed.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, and Trump does too?

    Whoa! whoa! whoa! Are you saying she should have a differentiating position on supporting genocidal countries to convince voters to vote for them?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Are you saying she should have a differentiating position

    I'm saying when it's the same for either candidate, then it cannot be a deciding factor.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago*

    But it’s not the same for both sides when one merely supports the actual aggressors while the other also has a plan to drive the survivors out of their homeland to redevelop it for the Epstein class, to abuse their piwer to personally enrich themselves by the death and misery of millions of people and potentially of an entire culture

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    its not individuals, its systemic.

    unless we change the game, there will be no "good" result, no matter if red guy, blue guy, green guy or whatever.

    (Capitalist) Nations in competition are the fundamental issue for ever-returning crisis based on fundamental (scientifically analyzed) contradictions... .....Capital and Labor (one side wants profit, the other wants fair wages), .... Usage and Exchange value (things are meant to be useful, but are sold primarily as commodities), ...Production and Consumption (too much is produced, but many - and an increasing number - cannot afford the goods). ..Competition and monopolies (everyone fights for market share until a few dominate everything) .technological progress and job losses (machines replace people, even though the economy is growing)....

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Ah and North Korea is in a better place because they have no capitalism. Clearly competition is the issue.

    Or perhaps we need to put some boundaries like other countries do and of course not let powerful people amass more and more power. But power also corrupts soooo many people, is there a solution?

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago

    May you please make one argument after another, or just one please.

    The only argument I can reconstruct out of your brainfart could be "Capitalism is good because North Korea has no capitalism". Just because (their own) people say its not communist doenst mean it is. Or do you really think they have no (ruling) classes, no money?

    Does NorthKorea not strive for "interests" (word is misleading us normal people btw, as its not yours/ours but the interest of ruling ones) of nationhood? So extending borders for example (as they are currently actively in war with South Korea under cease-fire)

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  • [–] 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Trump: We can't let China surpass us in science and technology!

    Also Trump:

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  • [–] 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Trump vowed to replace all the members and rename the board to the National Shit Someone Posted To The Internet Board

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Call me crazy, but I don't think the president should have the ability to fire all of these supposedly apolitical positions. The president should be walled off from those kind of decisions specifically to prevent the office from being able to hand out positions based on political loyalty and bribes. But maybe I'm just a kooky go nuts crazy guy.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Call me crazy, but what a stupid political system that puts the entire executive in the hands of one person.

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  • We historically called those people Cesar, or Emperor, or King, and in Africa they call themselves President. I like to think he is more of a Robert Mungabe because of the ethnic cleansing, incompetence, and scapegoating with crimes against peace & humanity. Americans should start learning about Zimbabwe's history. There will be no outside force to occupy America and prevent lawlessness.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    Isn’t that the whole problem here? We have all these walls to limit authoritarians, fascists, royalists but are discovering how easily they shatter when someone has no shame, no morals, no allegiance to anyone but themselves ignores their existence. We have this system of checks and balances to keep fascists in place, but are discovering how quickly they abdicate their responsibility and how symbolic that defense is

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago

    Everyone should know the 14 points of fascism, in this case its #11.

    https://public.websites.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

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  • [–] 79 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I genuinely don't think the next election will happen.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    If there is any way trump can achieve that, he will.

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    Unfortunately, too many other Americans think it will, and by the time they realize it won't it'll be even more too late.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    They will tell you that you are clearly overreacting, that whatever bullshit excuse given is legitimate.

    Later (way past anyones ability to act) they will claim that it was bullshit and they knew it all along.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Guess who's speedrunning to the stone age.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    That's not fair the people back then where trying to innovative and grow, nothing like whatever the us is doing.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Once US is back in stone ages they will innovate. For the second term it is merely the dark ages.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Well I hope they use the correct sacred oils when trying to make the railgun on the USS stupid name work. Do you think they will pray to the machine or to the Donald?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Is this what he faked an assassination attempt to distract the news cycle from?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    They were about to prove, using science, that the second assassination attempt was a fake.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yep. Not big surprise. I'll keep my books and be sure to share them with those who wish to continue to do proper science. I didn't trust the government before the orange, now I know that I'm dealing with the mentality I'll and will treat them as such.

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    [–] 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Depending on what happens in 2028, it will take years, if not decades, to recover from this. Fuck RFK jr with his worm and racoon penis.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know why people take it as a given that the US has to recover. Seems much more likely that the US is just another failed experiment in ways to organize human society that's destined to collapse.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Why this sort of news is so under resported. It’s a lot of things happening weakening America in so many ways that are so under reported.

    How people so called patriots don’t see that?

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Too depressing to read. I’m just gonna keep scrolling.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    The damage isn’t going to be undone without a bloody revolution

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    Even that makes no sense. Public taxes were paying for science that is then exploited for free by businesses. It's pure stupidity.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Yeah I think the next generations will build something else and better, if we don’t destroy it completely.

    The biggest loss in the end will be the creative arts and entertainment I guess. The rest isn’t unique to the US, others will fill those holes. As for the empire that really depends where you stand; it offers no protection for many.

    I’m now willing for my country to take its chances in a new world and cut some ties. I want AUKUS and the ANZUS treaty scrapped. It’s not just a few politicians and billionaires that are the problem, the country can’t be trusted now. They’ll do it all again.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    The next generations are going to suffer tremendously for the loss of American culture, science, industry, and empire.

    Personally; I Would celebrate the eradication of America's empire. Sadly i think the imperial part is the one still heavily funded and guarded; They will dismantle everything else.

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    "The firings will continue until morale improves."

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I know it's cliche' at this time but I'm so very very tired.

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    [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I look forward to his fat ass getting fired as well.

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