Doug Ford keeps on getting reelected, his brother was the mayor of Toronto despite the drugs and overall unseriousness... I mean why do people elect these guys? Is it for the memes and laughs?

I'm being totally serious when I ask this btw. What does the average Doug voter's rationale for getting this guy in office? Same with former Rob Ford voters. Who voted for Rob Ford? Why?

Edit: TLDR of the answers seem to be:

  • Horrible effect of fptp, vote split between liberals, ndp and the greens
  • Low voter turnout

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[–] 28 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Conservatives tend to just vote conservative, regardless who the candidate is, they just feel it's their 'what papa always did' tradition.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    https://www.fairvote.ca/ontario/ for more info but in short:

    Ford got 65% of seats with only 43% of votes, but only a small group voted in the last election. That means he was elected by ~20% of eligible voters. More than half of eligible voters did not vote last election.

    We have here an electorate system that discards people's vote, discourage people to vote, or straight up disenfranchise them. For all the reasons you might be familiar with, gerrymandering, massive different in number of people in each district, propaganda from local and foreign agents. Also, I don't think the representative from my district lives here, I only hear about them during election time.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ah now this makes a lot more sense. I didn't know fptp was THAT bad in Ontario.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Ford really took advantage of fptp last time too. He called a snap election claiming he needed a mandate to deal with Trump. Turnout was even worse than usual because it was February.

    He timed it carefully, often Ontario will flip parties provincially (i.e. vote Tory when Liberals are in power and vise versa) so he wanted to lock in four years when it looked like Trudeau was on the way out.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Ontario is like most US states. Most don't vote, and the hicks who do vote love populist MAGA politics and were triggered when Ontario had a lesbian Premiere, it was Ontario's Obama panic moment that surged the US right.

    We like them Pale, Male, Stale, and without a hint of Kale. Ford has repeatedly stated he is a Republican and a huge supporter of Trump. He's broken all records for fiscal irresponsibility and corruption.

    What drives all this is not the numbers from hicks, but the much greater numbers from people who refuse to vote. It does help that the opposition parties have very weak candidates who are also being ignored by the corporate press.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    I agree, except Doug famously hates Trump. He loves republicans, and the US, but he's had multiple public fights with Trump since the tariff war started.

    Doug Ford: The blunt-speaking Canadian premier taking on Trump - BBC News

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I agree, except Doug famously hates Trump

    Doug was sucking Trump's dick before 2025.

    "on election day I was happy this guy won"

    Ford congratulates Trump 2024.

    Ford praises Trump, criticizes Democrats in 2020.

    Then the leopard ate his face like every other MAGA loser.

    This is why he gets elected, people with the memories of goldfish.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

    Despite Ontario being home to multiple metropolitan cities, those cities are surrounded by many suburbs, rural towns and farmland, and that comprises a large part of the conservative base that Dougie relies on. Of course there is also a good amount of support from conservative business owners, corporate types, and the wealthy within the cities as well.

    Dougie also captured a mandate in a Feb 2025 snap election on the back of the tariffs and political turmoil caused by The Orange One to the South. He stood up against Trump, famously popularizing a "Canada is not for sale" hat after the first annexation threats. And, to be a little fair, he did a surprisingly decent job handling Covid, so he has some clout from that too.

    That said, he was already doing corrupt shit well before 2025, but now he's pushing the envelope even further because he won't face an election for a while (I guess, not sure what the options are there).

    Maybe moderate conservatives are paying attention and souring to him now, but the country has also shifted right, again due to the Overton window moving in the US, but also because of Poilievre shifting the federal conservatives far right, making Dougie look half sane. Oddly we are now in a situation where the Liberal party might attract more conservative voters because Carney too is conservative-lite.

    So in summary, the NDP has a lot of work to do, and they're in a terrible position to do it. Jebus help us.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    he did a surprisingly decent job handling Covid

    Ontario had the most nursing home deaths of any region in the world. Ford's response: indemnify nursing home corps from lawsuits and promise an inquiry that never happened. He also declared an end to COVID in 2022 and it continues to be the #5 killer in Ontario. Ignorance is why Ford gets re-elected. Despite "Elbows out" bullshit, Ontario behaves like any other red state.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Fair point. I guess I'm just surprised he didn't go full anti-mask, anti-vax, inject bleach, horse de-wormer conservative.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    anti-mask, anti-vax, inject bleach, horse de-wormer

    Trump actually never did any of that. Injecting bleach was a reddit tale like JD's couch fucking.

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    Again, you guys just play postman. He said the idea of injecting "disinfectant", which was a idea from Stanford MDs, and he said it would have to be done my medical doctors.

    Somehow Reddit turned it into bleach. Trump was just telling people what 'experts' were telling him. There was a lot of medical quackery during COVID from MDs pretending to be scientists.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Rob won because his opponent was gay and Toronto couldn't have a gay mayor.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah I’m from Australia and I haven’t been able to work this out either.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    We could ask the same question about the beetrooter, Angus Taylor, Pauline Hanson or any number of openly corrupt, mostly incompetent conservative politicians. I'm not from NSW but holy hell that Barilaro idiot seems like a real corrupt piece of shit but still managed to convince one of the richest states in the nation to make him Premier.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I suppose we could, but Ford and his brother stand out.

    Hanson is probably the closest match.

    I’m still trying to work out how Joyce manages to hold his seat, it’s incredible.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I'm in Ontario myself and it's mind-boggling but it's partially because his voters stick any negatives on the federal Liberal party and any positives on Ford. Ford has been completely gutting our provincial public healthcare system but a Conservative upset about hospitals shutting down or whatever will just direct all that anger towards Mark Carney (or non-white immigrants...)

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Same thing as Trump. Same people.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah see with the US and Australia, maybe the Old Dart, the dipshittery seems to be spread out a bit.

    In Canada it looks as if the problems confined to Ontario and these two who stand out like a carbuncle on the back of your leg. I don’t know though, I’m not Canadian so I could be missing others.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Not answering the question of why these bozos get voted on, but one would be remiss not to mention our dumb and unfair first-past-the-post electoral system.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (6 children)

    The size of ridings is also too big, currently almost over 100,000 people. Should be capped at 30,000. A situation that no one brings attention to.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Where does the 30000 number come from? Why 30000?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Look at the size of ridings in 1867, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pearce_Howland Total Eligible voters 2,243. The winner received 810 votes. By the time riding reached over 30,000 voter participation started to drop significantly.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    That doesn't really explain anything. Nothing much in that wiki that would imply any sort of benefit to limiting the number of voters to 30,000.

    You claim voters dropped significantly but even the initial voter turn out was about 36% using your numbers (810Γ·2243x100)

    According to elections Canada last year's voter turnout was 69%

    So again what does the number 30,000 come from, but more so, why is it a GOOD number?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    we don't need more pointless MPPs, thank you.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Your average rube wants to stick it to someone even if it means sticking it to themselves at the same time.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    Rob Ford has his own gravity field. Ontarians can't escape his event horizon.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    At this point he is nothing but dictator Doug to me.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (17 children)

    Because the Liberals who came before him were worse, and to those who keep voting for him, haven’t changed.

    With that said even in the snap election the Conservatives weren’t as popular as duggie is thinking he is. Rural towns flipped Liberal though not enough of them.

    The Ontario Liberal and NDP parties need to get their act together and start cleaning up since the last election the campaign on β€œwe’re better than Dug” when dug was very popular with his hard stance on Trump

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    The liberals before him were not in fact worse. Smarmy assholes who didn't do enough, sure. Worse that Doug Ford, not by a long shot.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I wasn’t in Ontario so that’s what I am hearing from coworkers and neighbours

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    He is actively, blatantly dismantling every public service to drive everybody to the private sector so he and his friends can directly benefit.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I will make things clear. I hate duggy, especially what he did to the Science Center, and I refused to vote for him... ever.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    Wait. What did he do to the Science Centre. And is this something that slipped under my radar, or is it something I'm trying not to think about because oh god, there are so many things to think about.

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    Fuuuck.
    I do remember that now. Sad that it got buried as "just another dick move by our government".

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Because the Liberals who came before him were worse

    For reasons no one can actually state. Ford is running record deficits and has ballooned the debt, while cutting all services, and how many private jets did the Liberals order?

    Boomers still go on about Bob Rae and having a Lesbian Premiere really triggered the hicks in Ontario.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    We need two sets of laws for Ontario. In Toronto we want speed cameras, some roads closed to cars. I get that it's not an issue in N. Ontario. I'd even let 14 year olds drive in N. Ontario because of the distances, if we make people start by driving a small 1L car, before being allowed to buy an SUV in the Greater Toronto Area.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    if we make people start by driving a small 1L car

    you can't buy a small 1L car in Ontario.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Still lots of used Smart Fortwo cars around.

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