The Mamdani Act would amend existing immigration law to prohibit the admission and naturalization of any noncitizen who is or was a member of, affiliated with, or advocates for a Chinese communist, communist, socialist, Islamic fundamentalist or other totalitarian party—or any organization that advocates those ideologies. Under its deportation provisions, a noncitizen already in the United States could be removed if they engage in advocacy for socialism, communism, Marxism or Islamic fundamentalism, distribute or publish material promoting those ideologies or hold membership in affiliated organizations at any point after admission.

You know he is a much needed anti-toxin, especially when they name a bill after him. Let the healing begin.

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[–] 93 points 6 months ago (5 children)

They would kill Jesus himself

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Donald Trump IS Jesus, obviously

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  • [–] 84 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So he’d have deported Einstein, then?

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  • [–] 120 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    That means this bill has to define socialism. Good luck with that one bucko, if you have 10 socialists in a room, you get 11 definitions /s

    I'm genuinely curious how it gets defined. I'm wondering if it can be sidestepped with a simple word change

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  • [–] [S] 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    That means this bill has to define socialism.

    It's not meant to have a definition. That's why the proposed law denies judicial review. The "definition" is supposed to be whatever the ICE Officer(s) Gestapo wants it to be.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago

    That's not an issue with the law, it's a feature. They don't need to prove you fit a definition. They only need to prove that they can call you a socialist. Anyone to the left of whatever positions they don't like are in danger of this law. It doesn't matter if you'd call yourself a socialist, only if they would.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I'm genuinely curious how it gets defined

    ?? whom ever is head of Immigration says it is.. it will be deliberately nebulous so you can say "banned because they are a socialist " if you have dark skin and don't wear Kirkland pants to the interview.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I mean, every Anti-Woke person got a full on definition from Republicans which is described as an awareness of social inequalities within racial, gender, and workplace environments.

    So basically, all the right wing nut jobs wanted to "get rid of 'woke'" is perfectly okay with the idea of having rights for me, not for you, that women, POC and LGBTQ+ people should have less rights than cis white men.

    They can define socialism all they want and the frothing low-IQ dipshits will still vote for it, even if the definition of socialism straight up tells them their lives would be better under it.

    It's never about the definition. It's never about any of it. It's entirely about their own slice of pie. Anyone else getting any semblance of good will means less to them.

    It's why they're against gay marriage. If two men get married, it somehow makes his marriage to a woman invalidated.

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  • [–] 56 points 6 months ago

    First amendment lawyers are gonna have a FIELD DAY with this one 😭

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  • [–] 157 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    We MUST deport ANYONE who DOESNT like having Sex With Children!

    -Republicans!

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    You say that like someone isnt going to immediately jump in and point out that Aisha was 9 years old.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha?wprov=sfla1

    We live in a fucked up world, and it turns out we always have. Sad stuff, man.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    What the fuck did I just read? She was 6 at the time of marriage and 9 when it was "consummated".

    He would often just sit and watch her and her friends play with dolls, and on occasion, he would even join them.

    🤮

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Yup. Maybe someone from that religion can explain to you how they make it OK in their head, if they want to. Of course, nobody has to defend their religious beliefs to anybody else, so i hope it doesnt come across like im pressuring anyone.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure there are a lot of people in that religion that don't find that acceptable.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I meant "make it OK" like how I was raised Roman Catholic and the church abused/raped children and lied about it, but many of my fellow roman catholics still believe the church to be "of God." They dont condone the abuse, but despite knowing how systemic it all was, they still remain devout. They somehow make it OK to continue being Catholic.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I can shed some light as an ex-Muslim. There are a bunch of common, disgusting excuses: "times were different", "girls used to mature faster", "it was common back then".

    There're more interesting possibilities though. It's true that it was a political marriage that was basically forced onto Muhammed. But an extension of that reasoning is that the consummation never happened either.

    It's been a while since I looked at this stuff but I remember that there's actually also a surprisingly compelling case against her ages being 6 and 9. But it would still be 13 to 16 IIRC. The historical side of this is pretty interesting (like how hadith was compiled vs the quran), but not really worth discussing here.

    Anyway, yeah, like every other religion, just a cult that grew too large. Anything but admitting that they're wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for the perspective. It's interesting that the disgusting excuses still exist alongside the "consummation never happened" and "they got the ages all wrong here" excuses. Zealots be zealoting in every religion.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    It's a bit weird in Islam. So some important context first.

    Basically all of Islam's rules/laws and stories come from two sources: the Quran and Hadith. You probably already know of the Quran but it's what they believe to be God's words verbatim. Hadith, on the other hand, is basically everything the prophet said or did, as recorded by different people.

    The Quran was compiled almost immediately after Muhammed died. But Hadith was compiled 2 centuries after that.

    To get to the more positive conclusions, you would need to deny a very specific Hadith narrated by Aisha herself. But we only know that she said that because her nephew said so to his students, who then said so to others... So it's a matter of the verifiability of that chain of trust. But if you believe that Hadith to be false, it would cast doubt on the rest of Hadith and people are not a fan of that idea.

    So instead, most Muslims just accept that he's a pedophile but get offended when you call him a pedophile.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago

    Freedom of speech, unless it's speech we don't like

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  • [–] 35 points 6 months ago

    Remember MCarthyism? It's back - in redneck form!

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago

    "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?"

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Mccarthyism round two, let's go! Screw learning from your mistakes!

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    "I have here in my hand a list of 205 that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department."

    "Or maybe it's 57... or 10... maybe."

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They see McCarthy's mistake was giving up.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Not just "giving up", there are large portions who think McCarthy's mistake was not simply murdering everyone who appeared before HUAC. My own father-in-law doesn't really want these to be any form of actual "we wanna know what's going on" trials, he just wants this to be all but a summary execution.

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    Yeah, no. I'd much rather have all the MAGA deported. It would really make this country 10 times better overnight. Much less murder and crime instantly.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    "any organization that advocates those ideologies" is so god damn unconstitutional, it is not even funny

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago

    Yay! Free violations of the first amendment!

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    How about we get a bill that bans conservatives from the US?

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This is going hard in the direction of the Nazi Germany "Enabling Act" of 1933.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    It turns out McCarthyism 2.0 is going to be even worse.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago*

    If it applies to Islamic fundamentalists, does it also apply to Christian nationalists?

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  • [–] 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Mamdani is the closest thing to a left wing politician America has been exposed to (to my European eyes he seems center-left), and the whole of the US is going completely ballistic about it.

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  • [–] [S] 42 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The rich/racists are going ballistic, but many see him as a ray of hope.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    A fortnightly somewhat comedic podcast also recommended that progressive politicians should follow his campaign style, focusing mostly on economic policies to help everyday policies. I wouldn't call them experts or anything, but they claimed a few other politicians doing the same thing had promising results (they didn't state specific examples).

    But yeah, lots of Americans do like at least some of what he's doing, but those usually aren't anyone near power.

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  • [+] 22 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Banning socialists is some real commie shit these fucking pinko politicians

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Banning socialists

    Not just socialists, "Islamists". This guy is running for AG in a state with Muslims making up around 2% of the population. Many of them are highly educated professionals looking to form full blow communities of like-minded people.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    I know literacy is not their strong suit, but current immigration law already prohibits being a member of a communist or totalitarian party. There are exceptions, of course.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Chip fails to realize that Krasnov's father-in-law would be deported, he was a f'n Yugoslavian Communist Party member. Preventing pedophiles, rapists and felons from public office would be a better bill.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago*

    Be very careful with "let's bar all felons from office", because then, all one would have to do is Trump up charges against their political rivals (something made far easier when the entire justice department is at your beck and call).

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago*

    I got a better bill idea.

    The Trump-Epstein act: which mandates the death penalty for pedophiles.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Who wants to dig McCarthy up, stick him up on a cross and prop him up in this guy's front yard?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Does this encroach on first amendment or can they just ban whoever they don't like under the guise of national security?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    well considering they already asked me these questions when I applied for my residency and my green card and will again if I become a citizen I doubt it

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    This might be a silly question but as a non-citizen do you have 1st amendment rights? I feel like you should but college students critical of Israel are being kidnapped by the government so idek at this point.

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    [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

    White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago

    Reminder for anyone still confused. American conservatives are actual, real-life fascists.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    The name of this bill is how you know they are terrified of him.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Hell yeah, we’re bringing thought crime back!

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck this regressive shithole of a country! Goddam!

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    How do I sign myself up to be deported?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    You need only inform your nearest law enforcement officer that you favor China's government. Of course, deportation will not involve sending you to your Earthly country of origin. It will instead involve sending you to God directly, for judgement. But only after you reveal all you know to the uh, presiding cops looking over you. Naturally.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So if I’m an American citizen who also is a socialist, where do I get sent?

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