Microsoft dangles $1 million prizes and Mercedes-AMG cars inside Edge as persistent pop-ups potentially spark fresh "bribery" backlash.

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[–] 179 points 6 months ago (17 children)

They're just making themselves look trashy and desperate.

What might work is making their software better than everyone else's. But that requires effort and skill and managerial competence.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    All of whom Microsoft doesnt posses.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I bet they still have some good devs who are continually thwarted by management.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah the Power Toys devs seem solid

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I mean they're exclusively writing tools for power users for eventual implementation to mainline as they develop and test simplification that doesn't alienate the power user.... So managers can't really say they're doing anything bad or dumb ever because it's power user features then porting.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Just imagining Clippy in front of a cracked mirror, "jessss a little more rouge and you can't have too much mascara...."

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

    But if we are being honest, if you don't care about privacy, it is a good browser. Its better than chrome. You can check the performance of of both on the same machine. It also has better pdf rendering.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It’s trash. It front pages clickbait and bullshit, has no privacy, and with so many other options why bother?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I am not saying you should use it, i was addressing app quality. The original commenter wasn't talking about business practices but app quality. Which is why isaid "privacy aside". Privavcy is very important and i would never have someone use chrome or edge but that wasnt the topic.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    You could paint it gold with premium genuine alpaca leather interiors, and I would still not use it.

    It's only function is to download a better browser.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You don't need it for that.
    winget install Mozilla.Firefox.en

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  • [–] 48 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    We started to use ad blockers in the early 2000s because no one could trust they were the 999,999 visitor to the website.

    It sounded (and stills sounds) scammy.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    It started with pop-up blockers.

    Opera was the first major browser to incorporate tools to block pop-up ads; the Mozilla browser later improved on this by blocking only pop-ups generated as the page loads.[citation needed] In the early 2000s, all major web browsers except Internet Explorer let users block unwanted pop-ups almost completely. In 2004, Microsoft released Windows XP SP2, which added pop-up blocking to Internet Explorer. -Wikipedia

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Let me guess... Existing users are excluded from participating? Cause I ain't got no pop up banner anywhere. Or is cause I'm European?

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

    Checkout Heluim Browser (GitHub) instead, but keep in mind that they don't have auto-update. But you can add their windows GitHub repo to your RSS reader to be alerted of any new updates: https://github.com/imputnet/helium-windows/releases.atom

    Edit 1:.... Why am I being downvoted?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It looks like they have automatic updates by now

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Are you sure?

    I downloaded it 2 weeks ago and it had no auto updates warning.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago

    Wow, the days of dodgy toolbar extensions never truly went away. They just evolved to become part of your operating system.

    The thing that actually baffles me about this is how this looks in the face of their next major competitor in the consumer market, Apple and their macOS.

    macOS (or any other Apple product) has never (to my knowledge) had anything like this and it would be extremely out of character for Apple to suddenly change that. With all other manufacturers raising prices (including the Surface as of today) and the MacBook Neo directly competing with the mid tier PC laptops, this is what Microsoft decides to do?

    At some point, one would hope that the average user starts to ask the question, can I have a computer that won't pull this bullshit on me? But I think unfortunately most typical users (especially anyone daily driving Edge) just think there's too much friction to move away from Windows, and so they stay, continuing to get fucked in the ass by megacorps.

    But hey, I'm not in the running for a free car like them. Not like I'll install Edge onto my Mac or Arch Linux computer and sync my shit with OneDrive.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Microsoft is a very large lumbering giant that seems to lack a cohesive vision forward, especially on the consumer front. Every single piece of consumer facing software lacks a cohesive design language, and seems to be regressing in usability. No one is truly primed to replace them yet in either the corporate or consumer businesses however, something like the MacBook Neo can certainly take a few points of market share away from the standard consumer

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    This is what happens when they get MBAs in charge. Same thing happened at Apple. The original guy with a vision in charge (Gates, Jobs) goes away and the company suffers for it.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    What vission did Gates have beyond using money to crush competition? Being a pedophile?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    At the time of Gates, they wanted to monopolize the operating system market because that was the way to lock people in. People owned hardware and in order to make the most money your needs your OS to be their platform so they had no choice but to pay you.

    Now in 2026 everyone’s OS is Chrome. So the goal is to make everyone depend on your cloud storage, on your productivity suite, on your chatbot, your automation platform, your cloud database. Then you give them just a state and then rent it to them in perpetuity.

    This is why they don’t mind making RAM too expensive. Drives people to inexpensive devices and subscriptions for services for the hardware they can no longer afford and don’t have the skills to maintain.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago
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    For years they ran a program to reward people for using Bing (they still technically do, but the payouts are next to nothing, maybe $5-10 worth of gift cards per year).

    10 years ago you could accumulate a passive income of several thousand dollars per year by farming Bing Rewards, Perk (before that company went under) and a few other programs.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Hey Microsoft, how about innovating instead? Edge is a Chrome engine browser like dozens of others out there. Why not write a new browser engine to give customers a choice? Or at worst, how about contract with Apple to license Webkit bringing a third solid choice for a browser engine to Windows. You're not going to out-Chrome Google Chrome browser, so stop trying.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and play the devil's advocate. Edge actually makes a lot of optimisations and improvements that are merged into upstream chrome. While Microsoft is the shady corp that is forcing the ai garbage and data collection, the Devs are actually very competent.

    Edge has one huge benefit which causes me to use it across Windows, Linux and even android and that is extension support on all even mobile. No other chrome based android browser has mobile extensions and a competent or seamless sync both figured out. I like being able to check something on my phone and seamlessly pick it up on any other device.

    I like Vivaldi's workflow but they have yet to add mobile extensions.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    You want another version of IE?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'd need a reason to use Edge. If it used a different browser engine, that would be a compelling reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Right now, Chrome is basically IE6. It rushes in standards with little compliance, bloats your memory, and everyone is forced to use it. All browsers are just skins, and if Google's recent Android moves are any indication, they'll likely close off source at some point so they can load it through with spyware.

    In terms of making a bad situation slightly better, I'd be in favor of MS re-vamping their browser division. It has little to do with AI or murdering Palestinians though, so I doubt they will.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    As a web developer, I would happily support current chrome over literally any version of IE. It’s not even a contest.

    The majority of standards are properly implemented in chrome, and it tends to be edge cases that are not. Whereas for IR you needed IE specific “hacks” to do a number of everyday things.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Of course they’re implemented properly in Chrome. They wrote those standards, and pushed them through without review. Hence why technologies like WebRTC and simple gradients had about 8 half-working implementations in Chrome, while the later IE team put a hand up and said “Hang on, let’s implement this the right way and agree on a spec.”

    The way you describe IE-specific hacks was true up through around IE9. Once they got to Edge, they retired importance of major versions and insisted people auto-update their browser, getting companies off the idea of retaining an old browser for “compatibility”.

    They were doing the right thing for a short time before the end. I suppose a lot of people didn’t even see that period.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Bro yapping about something he knows fuck all about. MS has contributed a ton to upstream Chromium, from page rendering improvements to improved efficiency for battery consumption.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    One of the last things I used to respect about Microsoft was when they kept up the development of their own rendering engine, even as Chrome ran away with its popularity. IE6 was a monster, but for a time MS was doing a good job as an underdog by pushing standards compliance. Even if it wasn't as nice as Firefox, it was important to have more horses in the game of competing browsers rather than creating a monoculture around Chrome.

    Needless to say, the Edge appearing in this contest is nothing like what I ever had hope for.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Does Edge support Linux? Actually, never mind. I'm good.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Awwww, silly little Microsoft is upset the browser monopoly isn't theirs

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Well, cars suck and 1million would be nice but still won’t but me a home where I live.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    "our browser is so good, we have to offer bogus prizes to get people to switch to it!"

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Not worth it

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You know that edge injects a popup into the chrome download page begging you to use edge. It says something like "Hey dont you know that edge is actually built on Chrome as well and blah blah blah copilot AI"

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    [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Rigged. They won't hand it out to some rando.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    That’s the thing. You have to be some kind of influencer with followers on state backed social media to win.

    Someone like MKBHD, to use one example, isn’t going to talk about the guy on Lemmy with no followers who won. He (or someone like him) might talk about a Twitter user with thousands of followers who won so they can cross traffic.

    Microsoft and Google want you to use their browser so they can sell your data. Your data, on its own, isn’t worth paying you anything for. So they won’t do it. What contests like this pay for is organic exposure. Which people like us can never give them, which is why we don’t win things.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Native persistent pop-up that doesn't go away and stays on multiple tabs is truly the best way to advertisme your browser /s

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Oh man, I needed that. A good belly shaking laugh.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Wow. That’s super sad.

    Goddamn microsoft. Get it together.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Perhaps make a better product...

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I used to use Edge at home, then ditched it. I used it recently at work and it is getting really enshittified. Now I'm between Cromite which works until suddenly the interface freezes, or Ungoogled Chromium which I haven't got to work on the work laptop (it works now on my home Linux so whatever).

    Edge used to be so much better before today.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Try out Firefox. It works incredibly well

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Or Librewolf, which is a fork from Firefox and removes the telemetry that Firefox collects.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    That's too extreme for most people. A lot of people do want certain services to remember they logged in for example. Waterfox is typically the better recommendation - or, was. I'm less trusting of them after they chose to use Brave Browser code for an AdBlocker

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Edge before it adopted Chromium was an excellent browser - fast, standards compliant, rock solid. Adopting Chromium is basically them doing the absolute minimum to ship a browser at all without showing someone else's logo. We use Edge at work - Chrome and Firefox are also supported - and it shocking how many MDM policies we have to have to make Edge usable.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    What’s the small print? Edge is already a requirement for me at work.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    How is my browser downloader going to help me win a million dollars?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I can use Edge. I offer cloud based edge user experience for $14.99 monthly. Microslop is free to reach out to me any time so we can hammer out an agreement. Smugface.jpg

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    How about you give me $1 Million AND the car, and I promise that I'll use Edge for an extensive* amount of time!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    An edge for an edge for an edge.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago*

    Win a car that may be will be spying on you (don't worry, no one will ever win the million dollars).

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm ok with being broke but still using Opera.

    Yes I know it's Chinese compromised. Yes I know all tech company bent the knee to Trump. I just prefer Opera because edge is crap, Chrome is bloated, and I've never liked Firefox.

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