WestCoast is building more Skytrain infrastructure right now, and proposing new buslines. Dedicated bikelane proposals are also out for public review on best options. You just have to live in the parts of Canada that care about health and environment.

At least the govt tries to stop it, instead of instituting it.

I am learning a lot from this thread, thanks for sharing. It seems that 1 in 3 buses in NA are from New Flyer.

Also, I like their proposition of having a centre median boarding platform. https://youtu.be/Xhw66RpevsM Some few decades ago, I heard about some cities solving bus traffic by using the centre of the street for public transport.

That is cool! I heard when they did the procurement a while ago, but I did not know what happened after. It is great to know that they were made here.

I think once we have plenty of buses (and other EVs) around, the battery recycling will catch up. Just like it happened with the lead-acid.

the production stopped due to some issues

💩 was the issue.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-why-byds-first-manufacturing-foothold-in-canada-was-a-bust/

I am not able to read the article. It only shows the headline for me.

I found an article with similar title that lists the reasons as:

• Significant delays in obtaining replacement parts, taking up to 73 days for a single rear axle.
• Poor quality of repair manuals and a lack of diagnostic tools in English.
• Insufficient engineering support from BYD during operations.

Does that match the article you shared? Is there more to it?

But is everything computer?

But, again, they aren't the only ones in that category.

Talk to us in 5 salty years of CDN winters.

Which is one of a couple reasons why ultra-cheap Chinese EVs aren't likely. They're going to use up that 5% or whatever on high-end vehicles with a good margin.

Hmm, looks like it comes down to how fast they can cool their batteries. I wonder if there's any tradeoffs. Thanks.

I'd take the sodium thing with a grain of salt (if you will), though. When there's energy there, and it releases uncontrolled, you're going to get a fire or at least a blob of molten battery. At best they're going to be more resistant to that. If they can get good power densities it's worth it just for the abundance of raw materials, though.

Canada subsidizes all automakers. So why are our vehicles shit and overpriced?

That, and just lower cost of labour.

It seems likely they're going to ship the models with the best margin, though, and those are not the cheap ones.