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[–] 283 points 7 months ago (23 children)

“God, you’re hot. Do you know that? Where do you go to school at?”

How do you possible make this worse? Ask them where they wll be later.

Not calling for violence but how does this not get you tarred and feather in the parking lot?

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  • [–] 179 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Not calling for violence but how does this not get you tarred and feather in the parking lot?

    Haven't you noticed? pedophiles are in fashion now… they can even be presidents

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  • [+] 60 points 7 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    There is more effective ways of dealing with it, outside of violence. I do like tar and feather though, just the right amount of violence

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Just so we are clear, tarring and feathering is an extremely violent act. I’m not arguing against it, but covering someone in molten tar is not non-violent in the slightest. I’m personally all for it.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    What are those more effective ways?

    All the ones I can think of that don't involve violence don't seem to be working.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Thats because too many people sit on their ass waiting for other people to take care of it for them.

    Coincidentally a lot of them are the same ones who call for violent action (and not all of them lean right).

    These actions only work if a majority of citizens actually take them, not sit back and complain about how they dont work because things dont magically get fixed the instant a minority of people do it once.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago*

    Bingo.

    my biggest complaint about the liberal/left is they will do anything but take charge. they seem to love sitting around and quarter backing and demanding someone else do something in their name... and a lot of them don't even vote, because 'what is the point'.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    He's a symptom. Violence against the idiots who can't help but say the quiet part out loud on camera won't stop the millions that do manage to keep the most blatant statements contained to men's spaces.

    What we need is a culture of nuanced introspection and personal growth, where people like him can admit that they're pigs without it destroying their lives or moral standing, instead being a first step towards rehabilitation. Women and girls deserve to be kept safe from him and boys deserve better teachers, so he wouldn't be able to work in education until he has done a lot of personal growth, but violence is just scapegoating.

    Of course if the state threatens violence unless you pay taxes that pay for people like him to endanger women, then you can engage in organized mutual self-defense. Hard to get to that culture of personal growth otherwise.

    In the mean time, people are entitled to organised mutual self-defense against him, which might also include violence but probably won't.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That wouldn't be scapegoating? He did actually commit the offense. It's punishment.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Scapegoating does not require the scapegoat to be innocent of the thing they are rendered a scapegoat of. When a bunch of kids smash decorative plates and they all say afterward that only one of them did it, that one kid is a scapegoat even if that kid did smash some plates, or even the most plates.

    And yes, punishment usually is scapegoating. "The offense" is some narrow, visible, and clearly defined thing that makes someone the convenient target to pin all the blame on, regardless of who was responsible for everything leading up to it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Hey, I'm not disagreeing with you or anything like that, but read what you type... possibly* will* (or they'll), and also end that with a question mark. There's absolutely no reason to have errors like that, you had all the time needed to read your own text and all the time after to fix it. No need to make yourself look incapable of using basic words, which I believe you definitely are (capable that is).

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    [–] 152 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Wow, that's... that's pretty cut-and-dry. Like honestly what the fuck? How the hell did literally no one stop that meeting right then and there?

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  • [–] [S] 86 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    He only wrapped his arm around her and asked where a hot child could be found later...

    She was in no immediate danger. Didnt you hear the school board's statement?

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Adult: ‘What school do you go to?’ -child answers adult- Adult: ‘Allllriiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!’

    The lean in…gross. All of it, disgusting and completely unacceptable. I feel sorry for that child, and can’t believe not a single board member stood up and called it for what it was and immediately stopped the proceedings. That was my first instinct imagining myself there. Full fucking stop, protect that child and bring that nasty man to account.

    Are people in such a true state of psychosis these days that we just ‘heh heh this is fine’ fucking everything now?

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  • [–] 113 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    White House chief of staff: “Mr president.. we’ve found your new Secretary of Education sir”

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  • [–] 102 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    But think of the children!

    These are the same people who push things like age verification, and banning porn. The really worse part about this, despite his hand-waving “I didn’t mean to offend anyone” bullshit, is that this apparently has become so normalized that this has become something that is taking a large amount of effort and time to resolve (if it ever gets resolved).

    In any normal timeline, this a) would have never happened so publicly, and 2) he would’ve been immediately removed and stepped down in shame.

    But here we are: the Dark Ages pt. 2. Their masks are off, and they are leaving their shame behind. This is our new normal.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    La crisi consiste appunto nel fatto che il vecchio muore e il nuovo non può nascere: in questo interregno si verificano i fenomeni morbosi piú svariati.

    • Antonio Gramsci

    Now is the time of monstrous acts

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You might think history teaches; it repeats;

    page after page, a poem in perfect rhyme

    tolls echoing bells from both sides of the sheets

    for births and funerals, tells the time

    of ageless Alice, Hamlet’s fallacies—

    the latest light from vanished galaxies.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 7 months ago

    As Antonio Gramsci would put from his prison cell while wondering why Italy became Fascist without people putting up a fight.

    History teaches, but it has no pupils

    We fell to the same thing, we let the wealthy define our culture. Our culture is now that of being cruel and taking. And people wish to be popular and wealthy more than moral or right. So we shift towards their world and act like them, till we have the cruelty in our own hearts.

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  • [–] 84 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Mr. Ervin has explained that he meant nothing offensive and that we have simply misunderstood his intentions,” the board said.

    Uh huh, we just misunderstood (slightly paraphrased) "god you're hot, what school do you go to?"

    There are SO many ways to interpret this, you don't know what he meant, except for that all those ways are all fucked up in the head

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  • [–] 78 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    The petition may be found here:

    https://www.change.org/p/fire-jerry-boyd-and-keith-ervin-from-washington-county-board-of-education

    Let's do our part, dear friends. And see you on the streets on Mayday at the next protest!

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  • [–] [S] 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    They also have a phone number you can call about the fact there is a school board member, Keith Ervin, who already was not allowed into schools unsupervised because of his sexual comments towards children before this event.

    423-753-1100

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  • [–] 202 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    anyone else in that room who did not immediately stand up and drag this douche out by the ear is complicit.

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  • [–] [S] 137 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Didnt hear them laughing at it and the one older lady going "ohhh you" as if he does this all the time to children?
    Cause they are accpeting of it. It comes from being bigger than the allegations.

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    as if he does this all the time to children?

    It wasn't just "a child", it was a fellow board member. Guy has zero respect for the office, the students, or women generally speaking.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I honestly don't get how that makes it worse. Like, doing this to a board member is worse??? I don't get this stance at all.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Like, doing this to a board member is worse???

    Doing this to some random student is gross.

    Doing this to another board member is also gross. But it signifies a kind of structural disrespect that undermines the office as well as the individual. It's symptomatic of a general institutional disgust for student involvement in school affairs.

    Like Bush Jr doing the creepy shoulder rub on Angela Merkel or - in a more extreme example - UN staffers who were "approached, accosted and raped" by fellow officials and dignitaries. It isn't merely a personal transgression. It undermines the entire function of the representative body.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I think they meant the "oh you" comment was from a board member. The article says he said it to a student.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The student was a member of the board. That's why they were up there next to the creep.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    People also laugh when they are uncomfortable and don’t know what else to do. Obviously we’d rather see objections than nervous tittering, but I wouldn’t always take laughter as active complicity / celebration.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I was being over the top with the complicity mostly out if anger at the situation. I understand that people respond poorly in stressful situations but we need to start getting better at it.

    This was a time I think it mattered to speak up.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Yeah I agree with all of that. Part of what was in my mind is that I would perceive a man laughing as very different than a woman laughing. I assume that all women live under potential sexual threat from men at all times, and laughing at an advance is a way to defuse it without getting confrontational. “Haha surely you jest” is actually a deflection, even if it isn’t a head on confrontation. I’m a man and I don’t fear direct confrontations, but I understand women don’t have the same privilege as I do in this regard.

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  • [–] 68 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I became involved because I reside in Washington County, I went to school my entire life in these schools. The things that are happening now have happened for as long as I can remember. It’s the “good ole boy” system. They protect each other and let each other get away with whatever they want, and it needs to stop.

    Many such cases, tale as old as time, etc.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Them "good ole boy" s have infested the government at every level. May not be rid of them til they age out.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I've been hoping for that for a long time, but for every one that has the grace to age out and die, at least one more ages in.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    No, this is giving up and letting them have their way with the system until they're done. Which they'll never be - they don't age out because they keep bringing in new good ol' boys.

    They need to be replaced. One by one, step by step, the same way they got in.

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  • [–] 52 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Is the girl in question the one blurred out? And is he not touching her? How is that appropriate? It's not JUST the inappropriate sexual comment, but also TOUCHING of a minor, during a public meeting.

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  • [–] [S] 56 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Yup, blurred out cause under the age of 18.

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  • [+] -11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Since when is that a thing? Or they didn't want to be on the news.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago*

    Protecting the identity and privacy of victimised children is the default stance for journalists here in the UK. I just assumed that was true in most of the western world... Does Canada identify child victims in news articles then?

    The reason this girls been anonymised in this case is likely because she's already been objectified, and would be subject to further trolling/ harassment from people outraged with the situations outcome and looking for a target to blame.

    Just look at what happened to Virginia Guiffre, after publicly coming forward with her allegations she was subject to consistent death threats and harassment. Sparing anyone that situation seems merciful in my eyes.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    They'd have to blur her because otherwise she'd be doxxed, and have incels claiming she's ugly and should be grateful that a man noticed her, and worse. As it is, her name is probably readily available and she is probably getting worse attention than the asshole who harrassed her.

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  • [–] 51 points 7 months ago (5 children)
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    They laughed at the "alriiiigggght" to her going to whatever school.

    Although that only makes sense if they ignored the "for you're hot" as just normal or joking around or whatever bullshit.

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  • [–] 46 points 7 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Later, he would be heard to scoff in indignation at the response to his comment saying "what it was a compliment!"

    He went on to tell the female reporter to smile more.

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    By the way, he asked her what school she goes to.... As if he doesnt already know.
    (⁠☞⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠☞

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Thankfully, if that hard-to-get little vixen of a teenager lied about what school she goes to, he likely has the resources to look up her school and home address!

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 7 months ago

    I was gonna make a joke back about him bringing her some homework but i think the ick factor dropped it being funny to me again.

    Cause i mean... He could. He could look up her address and likely her parents and know when to abuse his position to go to her house or pull her out of class. Its not funny to pretend to not be upset about this is where i am at.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Not "likely", definitely.

    And, the "resources" is an email to the school administration. They wouldn't even ask why. They'd just send over her entire file--address, family, friends, grades, classes, teachers, school schedule, after school activities--everything.

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