Assuming he didn’t do it (he didn’t), he’s taking the fall for a saint so that’s saintly on its own imo

He's absolutely a hero and without him the death star would've probably obliterated the rebellion (if it even existed without him). His methods aren't exactly "good" though from the perspective of good vs evil. As we see with Mon Mothma who is maybe a bit naïve and definitely doesn't approve of his methods. But I think a rebellion needs a Luthen. He knows he'll be hated by pretty much everyone, but in the end he managed to get so much done. He's the fall guy so the formal rebellion doesn't have to get their hands dirty.

Add the fact that he becomes a decent family man and you have one heck of an arc.

There's a hilarious canon scene where Vegeta proves to be a better dad than Goku (granted that doesn't take much)

Agreed. I think Amos can rightly be called an antihero, same with Miller.

But Holden is the archetype ‘good guy’ and everyone else is also unambiguously ‘good’ who occasionally do morally gray things for pragmatic reasons.

Such a great show (haven’t read the books (yet) sorry!)

Anti-hero: the protagonist whose methods, while effective, are not openly supported or celebrated because they fly in the face of "norms."

While I agree with your analysis on Holden. Reluctant hero, to be sure. He sure did screw over Earth and Mars on a fairly regular basis to make his points stick. He disobeyed orders and protected a Belter ship, which got him bounced from the Navy. He declined promotion so he could keep shagging the pilot of the Cant. He went alone on sending out the message that got them caught by the Donny... and that was all before shooting down a medical relief vessel, shearing off the drive section of a UNN vessel, targetlocking every ship in the Ganymede AO as he escorted the Weeping Somnambulist away. In-universe, Holden will do just about anything to advance his own ends. He's a privateer, his motives and methods transcend in-universe moralities, which we can only see because we know all the pieces. It's not 'til the Behemoth that he gains the patina of "saviour" — in contact with the dead, chosen by the protomolecule for direct communication, and having escaped death enough times to engender trust.

For most of the others — Amos (that guy --> just walk away), Naomi (clubbing Cyn ‐‐> waking the Presence), and Alex (we don't talk about Alex) for running with Holden; Fred (stealing missiles, selling Inaros out to the Inners --> "in my quarters, stop them"), Drummer (executioner --> "speak plainly"), and Bobbie (warrior, defector, ronin, mercenary --> fucking Valkyrie) for materially supporting Holden; in-universe, they would also be regarded as Anti-Heroes until they're not because of their arcs. Don't hate the playa. Hate the game.

Maybe "hero of the belt" = anti-hero precisely because it undercuts the frame of a "classic" hero. Much to be learned, then. Maybe I just want them to be anti-heroes because I have so much respect for these characters, their subversion of "norms" and willingness to address a greater good.

Nice touch with the comparison between Amos and Shinji Ikari. If this had been 2 years ago, I wouldn't have known. I see it now.

Also, Clarissa Mao?

The question was favorite antihero.

An antihero (sometimes spelled as anti-hero or two words anti hero) or anti-heroine is a character in a narrative (in literature, film, TV, etc.) who may lack some conventional heroic qualities and attributes, such as idealism and morality. Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that most of the audience considers morally correct, their reasons for doing so may not align with the audience's morality.

Perhaps a post titled "Who is your favorite antihero?" Isn't the best place for you if you're just looking for reasons to be offended.

To be honest, I've only read the first three. I was very happy with how it left off and my gf says that the other two are hard reads. I still make sure she doesn't spoil anything, but I'm unsure if I want to leave it where it is and be ignorantly happy, or read further and see what happens.

I may revisit them when the series is complete.

many cops etc idolize him

Which is ironic, considering what he really stands for.

Netflix's version portrayed by Jon Bernthal is trully amazing

That's not really the definition either

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihero

Yeah Scott Lang's not an anti Hero by any stretched imagination. I would hope he doesn't mean him.

Ant Man must be the anti-est hero, doesn't get any anti-er than that

Which one?

Pym, I'd assume. I mean, the guy beat his wife, created Ultron, and is generally even more of an asshole than Stark...