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[–] 32 points 7 months ago (1 child)

EA sports/fifa.

I’ll play flappy bird over that any day.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Candy Crush and the million remakes from the same publisher. Stole the core mechanic from Bejeweled but designed to be addictive instead of fun.

    Also how are you so shameless that you'll publish remakes of a game you stole in the first place?

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    [–] 46 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Basically every Call of Duty. Copy paste of the previous game with new paint. Never saw the appeal, gameplay is boring, just twitchy, and so many cringe people seem to love it.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The original and the expansion are honestly flawless multiplayer games. Modern Warfare and its sequel perfected the bombastic cinematic war movie style campaign and addictive multiplayer progression loop.

    There is no reason to play a call of duty game beyond the first black ops (maybe MW3 just to see the conclusion of the story) but there have been, what 16 games since then?

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    [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    Candy Crush

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    Your favorite game.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Final Fantasy VII

    It's not even the best Final Fantasy

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I always preferred 8 and 9 over 7. For some reason, the characters in 7 never held my interest as much as in other games, and the gameplay was pretty basic for an RPG of that age.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, when I played 7 for the first time, I played it right after 5 which still has the best class system and 6 which has the best story. So both story and gameplay felt like a disgrace for me.

    8 and 9 were definitely improvements over 7

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Agree. I never cared much for the original FF VII. To be fair I am old enough where I started with the first one on NES, so VII was not my introduction to the series like it was for so many others.

    I do really like remake though. I thought they did an excellent job with it.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Dota and LoL. I shamelessly judge anyone who regularly plays either of those games by choice. Way too many people seem to like them.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I tried both games years ago. I found them boring, basic, and seemed aimed at young kids.

    I don't usually judge adults for liking stuff meant for kids, there are lots of great games and shows like that. However Dota and LoL both felt very childish at the time. I'm sure it takes a lot of practice and skill to get good, but I've never had a desire to revisit either game.

    Honestly, at this point, I find judging people who play those games is kinda fun.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Reveared games I really tried to get in to, but nah:

    • Caves of Qud
    • Doom Eternal
    • Valheim
    • Disco Elysium
    • Echo Point Nova
    • X4 Foundations
    • Elden Ring
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  • [+] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
  • I liked the 2016 Doom. It was kind a Half-Lifey and flow was good. Eternal was just too platformy and the arena shooter parts were nothing new.

    Havent tried Dark Ages, because Hellsinger already tickled that itch and did it well. I'd rather return to that.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Did not expect caves of qud to be on anyone's list, as I thought it was pretty niche.

    I also really wanted to like the game, but it felt oddly empty. I wanted less lost in the wilderness, less static quests, more dynamic stuff to do and explore.

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    [–] 32 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Skyrim. It's a broken mess of a game that's barely held together by duct tape and hope, and it would be treated as such if it wasn't for the modding community. Most of the game is fetch quests, and the magic system is just bad. Melee combat sucks, too. All one handed weapons feel the same, all the two handed weapons feel the same. The only actually interesting path of progression is the stealth archer, and I'm pretty sure that's an accident.

    Probably the best sandbox ever made though, just a shit game.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    The fetch quests were particularly disappointing for me, given the history of Elder Scrolls games (cough cough Morrowind cough). I didn't mind the combat system (being able to equip anything in either hand was an improvement over previous games), but much of it did feel the same.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I think Skyrim is the perfect answer to this question. It’s a good game. Everyone has played a billion files because while it’s good it’s entirely unfocused and mediocre so people don’t feel motivated to take their character to the end of the game

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I'll probably get hate for this but most Fromsoft games. I just have never been able to get into them at all. It has nothing to do with it being hard, I enjoy hard games and always play on the highest difficulty. I just can't get into the combat, it's not fun for me.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I love Fromsoft games, but I've always thought that people kind of have horse blinders on when evaluating them as a whole.

    What I think sets them apart:

    • the art
    • the setting and vibe
    • melee combat controls

    What I think they severely lack:

    • sometimes it feels like I have to google nearly everything in these games because they never explain mechanics/items/quests properly. Most people would argue that's part of the charm, but I don't think it's executed well at all.
    • Basic combat is generally very fluid, but there are things that are just straight trash, such as ranged weapons. I just won't use those weapons for anything other than pulling mobs away from others
    • the story is just so abstract sometimes that I rarely know etc is going on
    • co-op multiplayer sucks. It really says something when a player-created mod works better than a system that's been in multiple games
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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Sorry I hate you. Demon's souls changed my life, and I've got 1000 hours into nightreign and probably 950 into Elden ring and I've played all the dark souls also. This formula is my Jam. I love them.

    But at the end of the day... It's not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy plenty of other games too. Hollow knight, balatro, etc.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    For most games, it depends on who you're asking. I, for example, hate multiplayer looter-shooters, so the most overrated game to ME would be Fortnite. It literally hold no attraction for me and the thought of even playing it makes me shudder.

    However, the universal answer is really any EA sports title.

    It's literally the same game every...damn...year....

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    According to this thread overrated means either "games I didn't like" or "games that didn't work for me".

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Yes? I don’t understand this comment I don’t think. Isn’t that exactly what it means, the majority of people like this thing, and I don’t? Making it over rated? It’s not like there’s the β€œgame rater” on earth like you might find a β€œname rater” in pokemon. Not like you can say β€œoh this guy objectively got this one wrong”.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    No clue what name rater in pokemon is, but you do have OpenCritic, MetaCritic and the various awards some games get. I don't think liking a game and thinking it's overrated are mutually exclusive.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Okay. So what’s overrated to you then? You seem to have a different view than I do.

    Is it AAA games that don’t deserve all the reviews and attention, so by definition, they’re overrated?

    I’m genuinely curious too, maybe I should think of β€œover” or β€œunder” rated, as more than just another way of saying β€œhot take” and expressing a generally contrarian opinion.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    No, I don't think it's just AAA games that don't deserve all the hype, I think indie games can be overrated too. To give an example of both categories:

    For AAA, it has to be The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for me. And, I suppose, by extension Tears of the Kingdom. Good games, great characters and I really like the guardian enemy designs. Additionally, the game is a great showcase of what the hardware in the Nintendo Switch is capable of. The game is also highly rated on review sites and has received so many awards, wikipedia actually has to list them in a spreadsheet.

    However, I genuinely think previous Zelda games are more fun. I think the vast, open world actually hurts the game, as it gradually becomes less about exploring and more about checking off tasks like finishing shrines and finding korok seeds. Previous Zelda games had smaller, more focused worlds and I think they were better for it. And even one would choose to ignore that, there's the fact that weapons break every two seconds and you constantly have to replace them, which I feel most reviewers just glossed over. Combat is pretty frequent, after all, so it does get grating. In previous Zelda games you get the weapon and you keep it.

    For indie, I have to point at Don't Starve. And I want to focus on the original, not Don't Starve Together, which has a slightly different approach. Very pretty, with great animations, involved game mechanics and great replayability. It is also well reviewed and was nominated for several awards (I think it only won one, but being nominated is impressive enough, I think).

    I liked it well enough, but ultimately bounced off it. Reason being, I found the game kind of stingy with telling you how some of its mechanics work, so I played it with a wiki open in my browser. I also couldn't bring myself to make additional playthroughs because of its glacial progression.

    Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this explains my position a little bit.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Thanks for the reply! So, you’re basically saying, in both examples, trying not to be reductionist here, but, β€œthese are great games, and you don’t like them as much as everyone else seems to”. Very few people are going to have no complaints at all. I don’t see how my original point is invalid or how this is a different definition of overrated. Or how you stating your opinion is any different or more nuanced than anything else in this thread. Like, I could also just say your take on Zelda is just β€œa mechanic I don’t like”. So..

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    [–] 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I never understood why Breath of the Wild was so beloved. I played through it and Tears of the Kingdom, but I really wonder if they would have been as well received if they didn't benefit from the Zelda franchise.


    I found myself getting annoyed with the game more often than excited. I very quickly became annoyed encountering koroks, or shrines, or the stupid sign guy. I think the bevy of side quests and collectibles diluted too much of the narrative and enjoyment of the world.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Botw is the worst thing to happen to games in years. I enjoyed it when it came out, thought it was a good game but bad Zelda game with it's lack of progression having a single toolset you get immediately.

    But then everyone started copying it, Becoming open world games for no good reason, just to pad game length with travel and crafting whether or not it actually supports the central gameplay loop

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I'm also a botw hater. No Zelda dungeons, forces you to explore with shitty weapon health mechanic. I disabled that in the emulator and realized how pointless exploration was when you didn't need to replace your weapons. I'll give it the glider but every open world game has a glider now so there's better choices.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Skyrim. It was at best "fine" for me. I really dislike level scaling. The combat felt unsatisfying. I don't remember the story. It's not weird like Morrowind. The magic and enchanting was over-simplified.

    But for many people it's their grand joy. So I guess that's good for them.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    They are rich in story, lore, and world exploration. I love them for this. But! I hate having to revisit locations for new quests. It all feels like β€œCrap! Forgot the milk!” aaand, back to the store. β€œCrap! Forgot the eggs!” aaand back to the store. There aren’t many games with full, deep stories, but it’s the grind that wears me down.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Insane take, the stories are so fucking good i creamed all over the tv

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You cried at the funeral in Cyberpunk didn't you?

    I totally didn't. Nope.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I agree on Cyberpunk, though I still played like 20hrs.

    I finished a mission and just realised I couldn't be bothered driving to the next one and blah blah blah and just closed the game for the final time right then.

    First time I've been playing a game and that had happened.

    I guess the game might still be worth it's sale price at 50% off if you can get 20 hours out of it, but it's still disappointing in my eyes that It wasn't able to keep me engaged.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Hard disagree on Cyberpunk, that game is fun as hell. But I agree with you about Witcher 3. Tried at least 3 times to get into it throughout the years but quit like an hour into it every time. Just not for me.

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    [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Halo.

    Look, I'm not saying it's a bad game or you're a bad person for liking it, but man, I have never been able to see the appeal. As someone who has played a lot of shooters (mostly PC) and read a lot of sci-fi, I find it exceptionally mid. And I'm not really fan of the militaristic reverence vibe it's got going on like .. bleh. Does it actually criticize this more as the series goes on or is it really just all oorah? I also kind of blame it for the trends of vehicle segments and only holding two weapons that leaked into other FPSes at the time (looking at you Bioshock Infinite - WTF), although I do admit that's more of a petty, personal point. I respect that it pushed FPSes and online multiplayer forward on consoles, but when people tell me it's their favorite game with one of the best storylines ever I'm like, "But have you played any other games?"

    I used to work in a game store back when Halo 3 released and I was a much more fervent hater back then, I decided I was gonna play the original Marathon games so I could be a hipster snob and hate on them, too. Actually ended up really loving them, though they're only loosely related, I think they had a lot more going on stylistically and story-wise even though the gameplay was more primitive.

    I retry every few years, but never get very far. Maybe I should skip to 2 because one is so bland I get bored of it.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Halo CE is definitely a but dated now, but 2 is one of the best campaigns even still. I'm not sure it can be overrated though. 3\odst is some of the best multiplayer experience there was before the series was infected with CoD.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Ghostbusters on the C64, it sucked.

    Manic Miner, a ruined rip-off of Miner 2049er.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    C'mon, weren't you blown away by the (at the time) novel digitized voice? "He slimed me!"

    Of course, escape from Castle Wolfenstein did it even earlier ("was ist los, was ist los" and "ach, mein leben!").

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Expedition 33.

    It won practically every single award even tho didn't really deserve it.

    Not an indie game either.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Oh yeh that looked cool I was pretty pumped about that. Is it not so good after all?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Obviously tastes differ. I thoroughly enjoyed it and felt it deserved the praise.

    • The setting is original.
    • Turn based with Parry/Dodge isn't original (super Mario RPG) but it's pretty satisfying here
    • The stat/build system is fairly original and gives a lot of depth
    • I thought the story was a solid examination of grief
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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    If you enjoy RPGs it's very good. Great soundtrack, good story, and to me very fun combat loop. Most of my friends love it too. But some people seem to bounce off it. It won every award for a reason.

    To me the game very much lived up to the hype and I'd highly recommend giving it a try

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    It was very pretty, and the soundtrack deserved the praise it received. Nothing too innovative about the gameplay though, and the story was good but typical for this genre.

    That being said, I did enjoy it a lot. But that gameplay style is one of my favorites, so the visuals and music were just perks.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    Ocarina of Time. I mean, its good. But so many people act like its the best video game of all time. Its like barely top 5 Zelda game imo let alone the best game full stop

    I'm ready for the downvotes

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    This is a reasonable take, though I don't feel the same way.

    OoT felt like an open world game at a time when those largely didn't exist (some did, but not really on console). The gameplay was still somewhat linear, but it felt like there was a lot of freedom compared to a lot of other games at the time. As a kid, I spent hours just exploring. I'm guessing this has something to do with its popularity at the time.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Skyrim, until the mods came

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I remember playing Skyrim at launch. The very first mod I downloaded was to restore Esbern's voice lines; an npc critical to the main quest early on.

    Bethesda forgot to reference his voice lines in the script, which broke the game.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Skyrim was extremely interesting when it was new because there wasn't anything quite like it, but now there's a lot of games that are like it and it's not that great and it's just kind of aged with mods or whatever

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