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[–] 74 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Fuck this stupid fuck. We need high-speed rail across the entire country. It needs to start somewhere, and become the new normal.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know about the whole country, because there's a lot of low-density space where it's hard to justify this level of infrastructure cost.

    But the Quebec City-Windsor corridor absolutely needs high-speed rail because it includes roughly half of Canada's population. It's even conveniently arranged in a straight line! Driving in this region is hindered by tons of traffic, and flying has huge carbon costs. Rail should be the default way to get around in this region.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    When rail was first built across Canada it was done when Canada had a population of ~4 million and preceded most of our development. That's what "nation building" infrastructure is about. Transportation infrastructure in particular has a huge role to play in developing that low density space.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    People are fine running a road somewhere to spur growth but a rail line is a "waste of money". Cities used to build their subways out to undeveloped land because its way easier to do that before the land is developed and the subway line would give a reason to develop it.

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  • [–] [S] 52 points 7 months ago

    Conservative leader demands taxpayer money be wasted during an oil crisis.

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    "This $90-billion Liberal boondoggle doesn't make sense."

    This isn't even a boondoggle yet. I mean, of course it's going to go way over budget and be late, and of course it will eventually be a boondoggle, but you can't slap that label on it until it is!

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Considering the Liberal track record, the final bill would be closer to $300billion.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    The joy of using the lowest bidder. Takes longer, costs more, lower quality. Procurement needs to change. Lowest bid always costs more cause they cut corners to be lowest, then the city/province/feds need to pony up more and more in sunk cost bs. Lowest bid and highest bid need to be tossed, requirements to stay on budget/time need to be implemented and used as a metric in future projects. This company always goes over time/budget? They get pushed down the list, only accepted for lower level projects until they prove themselves. Project comes in on time/budget? They get a leg up on next project as they are reliable. Why does every effort of the gov't to save money cost us more?

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile a $40B (min) pipeline that no private oil&gas company wants is a totally realistic and smart project to spend on. Keep talking PP, it's working!

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    As gas prices are at record levels, PP tries to keep you dependent on cars and gasoline.

    EVERYTHING PP does is an attempt to make you buy oil & gas.

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  • [+] -12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    It's not going to help me whatsoever. It only helps the elites from Ontario and Quebec.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    So its a liberal "land grab" because some land may be used to build desperately needed infrastructure, something that happens all the time for roadway construction and expansion, yet hes silent on conservative premier Doug Fords Airport BS that somehow isn't a convervative land grab?

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    How fortunate for Carney to have this guy as an opponent.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    Eat shit, PP.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Poilievre isn't against money it just has to spent to benefit those already in power.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago

    "doesn't make sense" Talk to us at $2L gas l'il PP.

    Subsiding Alberta oil at $20B a year really makes no sense.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    PP says a lot of stupid things.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    What I would like to see is include the ticket price, and then include how many years before the project is paid for. Obviously, also include the savings incurred by less maintenance on roads etc. because of the traffic moved to high speed rail.

    We can do this for bridges, why not for high speed rail?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Don't get ahead of your self. This project will never pay for its self. If people used mass transit via would have alot more service. Porter airlines wouldn't be pushing for turbo jets to go further destinations. You got be realistic about these things.

    This project is 1, a wicked subsidy that's gona create a healthy amount of jobs, good skilled jobs. I can expand on that further. 2 a way to put Canada πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ on the map of not being bass akward USA light.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    I think a couple of things can be true at the same time. Long term, high speed rail is a good thing. Also true is this project will definitely be vastly over budget. I would just like to see some concrete data to let us know the planners have actually looked at the factors.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Complaining about how extremely expensive trains are, no objections at all to spending ten times that much on fighter jets, battleships, and attack submarines.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    He should just shut up and fuck off somewhere. Nothing of value would be lost.

    I don't live there but there's no way this is not needed.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck you ill go fisty cuffies over this any day any minute any time. I want my high speed Choo Choo.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Little Poil here, promise to give money to a project in Quebec City that was deemed useless by no less than tree independents studies. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t understand what could be useful

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    I thought it was basic economics that increasing mobility increases production.

    It's dumbass bullshit like this that proves that modern conservatives are not meant to be taken seriously. They are a party of billionaire donors that are only interested in taxing the ever loving fuck out of regular people to fund tax breaks for their blindingly rich donors.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    That's obvious. It could potentially help the plebes, and it's very far from Regina and Edmonton.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    How does that waste of a human carcass manage to be on the wrong side of every single damn issue?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    God if he ruins this I would be so upset. I don't even live in that area but I'm just happy to see an expansion of that sort of infrastructure in Canada

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It's going to add $8,000 debt to every family in Canada.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    $90B is l'il PP's number, the actual estimate is $30B less.

    This is how cons work, add a fake number to something they want to kill, then kill it.

    The long gun registry was $2B/yr under Harper, yet no one could explain why. Quebec had their own registry after that and it cost $5M/yr.

    Of course, the economic benefit to this corridor longer term will be a much bigger number.

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