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[–] 73 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I saw this posted before elsewhere (but can't find it now). In that version, it was stated this was posted in a Star Wars forum, which makes it doubly hilarious if true.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not quite. It was posted on Tumblr, by a star wars focused account, with star wars tags, so mainly star wars fans saw it (at first).

    At no point during the poll was star wars in the lead, but the poll did breach containment and got seen by most of the nerd community there, which definitely did not help the voting spread.

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  • [–] 114 points 7 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I’ve always felt Sheeran looked a lot like Weyoun 6

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  • [–] 53 points 7 months ago (24 children)

    what about someone in a stargate shirt

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Treat them nice, they probably think all problems are solved with C4.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    C4 solves every problem you have but also has a 97% chance of creating an even worse problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [+] -9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Suspected rabid imperialist of their favorite air force propaganda less than zero trust.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago*

    I get where you're coming from, but I'd like to draw your attention to this particular exchange from SG-1 S01E16:

    Colonel, the United States is not in the business of interfering in other people's affairs.

    ...Since when?

    They were always a little coy about the propaganda angle.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Stargate SG-1 is a lot more anarchic than Star Trek ever gets. Most of its episodes are about a group of people that almost always relies on knowledge/expertise rather than rank for decisions, trying to do their best to give societies the tools for their own liberation.

    In Star Trek, it is presented as enlightened that the protagonists will let a genocide happen if its victims are too primitive to have rights ("prime directive"). In Stargate, every injustice is worth fighting against and every person is worthy of fighting it.

    In Star Trek, challenging a captain's bad decision is misconduct. In Stargate it's common sense. In Star Trek, slavery gets being reinvented by the good guys because beings aren't worthy of rights until proven otherwise. In Stargate, slavery requires a revolt.

    The main propaganda of Stargate is that the US would facilitate this behavior, rather than seeking its own imperial supremacy.

    I understand doubting whether people have this interpretation. At least an uncritical watcher of Star Trek will act like a white savior starfleet officer and help until they find some reason to judge you. Uncritical Stargate watchers might actually believe the US military tries to help people structurally and support them.

    Shal'kek nem'ron.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Alternative interpretation: SG-1 team is basically the galaxy class cia, fomenting usa-friendly regime change on every planet they encounter.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Formenting in-group-friendly regime change can be good or bad, depending on what sort of behavior is construed as "-friendly". Some of my best friends forment in-group-friendly regime change.

    SG-1 destroyed what would have been a very profitable ally because they were space nazis, and they helped space native Americans protect their land against destructive US mining practices.

    Like with any show it's best to enjoy it critically. I enjoy SG-1 despite it positively depicting a space CIA just like I enjoy TNG despite it positively depicting a space British Royal Navy flagship.

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    [–] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Star Wars is so heavily merchandised that you really can't tell anything about someone wearing a shirt with Yoda on it, impulse buy at a Wal-Mart. But show me someone wearing a Riker T-Shirt, and I'll show you someone who went to a convention or decided to order a shirt off of a website. More likely to be one of us harmless earnest dorks who knows who did what at Tenagra.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago

    Me, staring at a guy in a Star Wars shirt: "Bet he thinks he's the center of the universe."

    Me, staring at a guy in a Redshirt: "This is the kind of person that'll catch a phaser for me."

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It's a bit of a shame for Star Wars that Darth Vader and stormtroopers have become so iconic.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I chuckle whenever I think of the dude who got arrested for following around ICE agents with a speaker playing the Imperial March.

    This dude understood the assignment, and had the balls to pass the test.

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  • [+] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Not all Star Trek fans are deep thinkers.

    Not many Star Wars fans are deep thinkers.

    And that's all I have to say about that.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Star Wars is too widely popular for much to be inferred by the shirt, whereas Star Trek fans tend to be more alike : nerdy, generally nice.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Much less unironic cardassian empire or dominion fans than the multitude of empire fans.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Where does 40k fall on this spectrum? Is it just a nope by default or is it dependent on faction or memetics.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I feel this is a very clever joke but I don't know enough lore to appreciate it.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Less a joke about the lore and more a joke about how some people get really weird about some factions, like the Death Corps of Krieg and the Black Templars who are fan favorites but also attract a very fashy side of the fan base. Personally I'm more of an Armageddon Steel Legion, Blood Ravens, Adeptus Mechanacus type of guy.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    For me it would depend on what kind of Star Trek shirt it was. If it's just a shirt that says Star Trek then not really. But if they're wearing a fucking Starfleet uniform I will trust them with my goddamn life.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Where do we put Babylon 5 shirts on this scale?

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    With the laugh track edited out:

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I wouldn't trust them until they told me which ST series they loved.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of Star Wars fans are either idolizing the Empire and the Dark Side for their positions of power and control, or the Space Wizards who go out of their way to be naive and get struck down for the better good. If they're not wearing rebel gear, they're not default trustworthy.

    If someone watches enough Trek to wear the gear and is open about it, they are at least not against diversity and equality in their fantasy choices.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Also, a lot of normies like Star Wars as a normal action franchise, so there's some general randomness to the sample. Star Trek pretty specifically appeals to that specific type of nerd, there's a lot more consistency in the results you can expect.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    As Star Wars fan and someone who have been following the community for some time, i totally agreed with those people

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    I feel like it says more about the values of the fans than anything else. This isn't too say that Star Wars fans are bad as a fandom, but that Star Trek fans are more likely to help in times of need.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    I'd wear a Blake's 7 shirt if there was an iconic logo that wasn't also the emblem of the fascist reigime in-universe.

    The bland target logo from Series D doesn't really appeal to me.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    I enjoy Star Wars for specific reasons that I like in entertainment. The ragtag underdog fighting a strong oppressor and winning. The classic fantasy story, but in space. Swords. Small fighters dogfighting more than large ships shooting at each other.

    Now, that's entertainment, in an action fantasy judgement. Would I want to live in a Star Wars universe over a Star Trek universe? Absolutely not. Do I agree with the moral guidelines of either major side of Star Wars? Again, not really. I definitely don't like the empire, but even the Jedi are too much of religious fundies to me. I also think the lessons/message of Trek is generally better too.

    It's a bit like food that's tasty but not good for you. I enjoy it, but I'm not claiming it's the better of the two.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The Dominion did nothing wrong!

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Star Trek fans will help you fix the problem—Star Wars fans might become the problem 😂

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I dont really know shit about star trek but star wars is extremely overrated, i mean there were a few great movies but like nobody dresses up like characters from the godfather or citizen kane or idk any other great movies really. Idk lotr is super popular and it's awesome but idk lotr was also even better movies and still not as like a religion for people, like people make their whole identity being a star wars fan it's bizzare. Idk i just dont get star wars people i guess.

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