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[–] 89 points 7 months ago (18 children)

That's just wrong. If you're worried about portability get an e-reader, don't butcher up works of art.

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  • [–] 113 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    I think most e-readers will stop working if you cut them in half to be more portable. Books still have the upper hand on this

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Plus you can start a fire with them when you’re done, try to start a fire with an e-reader you gonna get one hell of a surprise

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Pretty sure all ereaders work with lithium ion batteries these days. They're quite flammable.

    Even better, try making fire with a wet book. My ereadwr catches on fire when it gets wet though! Suck it dead trees

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    And as Conan in the Discworld said so eloquently, if the paper is soft it's the best toilet paper.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, if you had like a hand bound copy or rare out of print book or something like that this sentiment makes sense, but if it's just some abundant mass produced edition, I'm not so sure. Surely the artistry there is in the words, which aren't damaged and exist in other copies anyway, rather than the cheap machine made physical medium.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    To me it's just disrespectful to damage a book, regardless of which physical form it has. Paperbacks falling apart when they're worn out are OK, that's basically showing how much they were loved. But taking scissors to them is still almost as bad as taking scissors to a first edition hardback.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    No works of art were hurt for this. Mass printed paperback spines being damaged doesn’t hurt the words inside or the hundreds of thousands of other copies. Everyone should feel free to write on, highlight, and cut apart mass printed books, because the actual object itself was never the point.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, rare, old, and otherwise inaccessible books should be protected from random destruction, but there's a huge difference between destroying a copy of infinite jest and a copy of something that's at risk of not being accessible to someone by that copy being destroyed. And destroying either for art is wildly different from destroying them to keep someone from accessing it.

    I collect books in a category that are stigmatized and rare, specifically related to queer and kink topics. These are topics that have been mass burned before. But even better than getting into fetishizing the object made of paper is to help get books at risk of inaccessibility to be archived and spread.

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  • [–] 211 points 7 months ago
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    That psychopath needs reporting to the police.

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  • [–] 168 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    There's no objective reason that this is wrong, but still, take that shit far far away from me

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  • [–] 128 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Doesn't it fuck up the binding? Sure, a softback is still going to stay together in the immediate term, but the covers are almost always a single stronger piece, whereas the pages will now be free to work loose from the cut side.

    So... I'd say it is objectively worse.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    It doesn't need to stay together for a lifetime, the person only cares about it staying together for a few days till they're done reading the section, after which it gets disposed of. This makes it much easier for them to actually read it, which means it's objectively way better.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    You....buy a book and then throw it away after you read it? Anyone does that?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    In the movie My Blue Heaven, Steve Martin had a trunk full of the same (stolen) book and his excuse was “in case I want to read it more than once.”

    I’ve heard there are PACs or whatever that buy thousands of copies of politicians books so they become best sellers. Does anyone know where the physical copies actually end up?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Infinite Jest has extensive footnotes, which are at the back of the book. Some of them are 12 pages long and contain multiple subplots and plot points and gives history and context to how and why the Infinite Jest of the book is so deadly.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Holy shit I totally forgot about that. I've been meaning to reread for years now but haven't felt ready lol. I loved it but got to the end and was like, wait, what? I thought this was going to wrap back around to the beginning. Am I too dumb for this book?

    There was so many parts of that book that pop into my head randomly. I can hardly brush my teeth without thinking of Pemulis(sp?) passing out, and directly proper use of, floss after dinner at the Incandenzas (sp?). Tennis always had me thinking about it. Punts in football too. Selfie filters (the masks everyone starting having in their house for video calls.

    E: oh, and nevermind infinite scroll and the basis of the plot

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I think a lot about the guy who is scared aliens are trying to steal your thoughts with magnets and so they give him an MRI

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    The whole missile warfare game the tennis kids play was wild.

    And for some reason, Hal laying on the floor imagining the amount of food he eats in a year filling the room and just being nauseous about it (I think he was also dealing with quitting the Bob Hope), really got into my head.

    Man, I came across DFW when I was sitting in a very boring seminar at University of Illinois with my first smartphone in hand, enjoying the new ability to find something else to learn about while stuck there. No idea how exactly I came across it, but I read how cruise ship article and loved it. Started reading about him and was like, oh, this guy group up right here. And his parents are still here. It really caught my attention (again, boring seminar) and I was excited to read his stuff. I must have read some interviews of him or something.

    Hit me hard when I learned of his suicide. Such a chilling feeling when a good communicator, like one that is able to capture parts of your inner monologue so well, through writing, speaking, of music, takes their own life.

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    this is so wrong.

    you're supposed to cut them in half so you can fit each side in the pockets of your cargo shorts.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    That's why I cut mine in half through the middle of the cover; top and bottom halves. Sure, makes it a little harder to read, but worth it when I can fit each half in my pockets perfectly.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    ‘The Idiot’ was originally intended to be a two-part film with a running time of 265 minutes. After a single, poorly received, screening of the full-length version, the film was severely cut at the request of the studio. This was against Kurosawa's wishes. When the re-edited version was also deemed too long by the studio, Kurosawa suggested the film be cut lengthwise instead.

    According to Japanese film scholar Donald Richie, there are no existing prints of the original 265-minute version.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck that. Damn I would have watched that. Was it based on Dostoevsky or something else entirely? Imagine a master putting that much effort into a work of art, and then have it cut and chipped away at until there's nothing left...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Based on Dostoyevsky's novel, yes, and apparently the film was close to it. I've watched the existing version — it's tolerable, although the physical quality of the film makes it a somewhat challenging experience. The gist of the story is pretty clear. To my shame, I haven't read the novel, so idk what is lost compared to it.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Clearly this is someone who actually reads their books. Given that they are mass market paperbacks... I have no problem with this. If I were an author I would much rather someone does this to my work and actually reads it and enjoys it to someone keeping a pristine copy unopened on their shelf forever.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    infinite jest is half footnotes, which are at the back of the book, which is part of the "joke" of the book, being based around extreme academia.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, sure. The inane pretentiousness was just a "joke"!

    Fuck that book.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I mean I know nothing about this book besides what I've read about it in these two comments, but it is called infinite jest, why is it so hard to believe that it's a joke?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's a reference to Shakespeare, when Hamlet finds the skull of the old court jester who looked after him as a child. "Alas! poor Yorrick! I knew him, Horatio. A man of infinite jest and most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times..."

    In the book, it's the name of a film made by the protagonist's late Dad, one which combines a myriad of new and experimental film techniques and technical application of lenses with some incredibly beautiful people - and is so compelling that if you watch it you can't stop watching it until you starve to death.

    The book juxtaposes the obviously bad addiction of drugs and shows us the journey of an addict trying to gain a control of their life, with a bunch of "good" addictions amongst a group of adolescent boys trying to become tennis pros at an ivy-league-type college.

    With a bunch of criticism of American life: Years no longer have numbers like 1997 or 2008, they are sponsored by brands so there's Year of the Whopper, Year of Glad Flaccid Plastic Receptical Products, Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment... Canada, Mexico and the USA have formed into one giant country after the mid-west became uninhabitable due to pollution...

    honestly I love the book but you have to be a certain type of person to love it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe go to a bookstore, pick up a copy, and leaf through it. I think you'll understand exactly what I mean pretty quickly. The book is pretentious drivel.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Which apparently is the whole joke about this book. Maybe I should pick it up and see what this whole discussion is about lol

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Skip jail. Straight to a firing squad of librarians.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago

    "yeah, I just finished Infinite. It was pretty good, abrupt ending though. I hear Jest picks up right where it left off."

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago

    I have never been so offended by something so harmless in the greater scheme of things.

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    You should cut diagonally. If it makes a sandwich better, imagine what it can do for a novel.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    last year I've allowed myself to do marginalia, to allow me to write notes and whatever I want on the books I read while I read. it's inherently destructive, but it changes the whole experience. reading is no longer a passive activity but a conversation with the material. and I love it.

    but felt guilty about doing irreversible changes to the book. then this shit shows up.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It's destructive but it's also constructive. That conversation with the material gives future owners new perspectives. At least in my opinion as someone who collects old subcultural texts. Notes in the margins adds to the experience of an old book

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Since I turned 30 I write in the margins of books I read. The better the book is the more notes. Its much more engaging.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Ok, but what is there to take notes about? Assuming it's a novel, and not some reference book.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Almost all of my books are thrifted, which gives me the luxury of no guilt. And I get to argue with previous marginalia, which is fun because they can’t respond.

    This is kinda how books worked throughout most of medieval history. Paper was expensive and anyway, the margins often become teaching tools in and of themselves. It becomes a centuries long comment section, so ideas get passed down and develop through the centuries. Like one of the most important books of medieval philosophy that probably no one without a doctoral in theology gives a shit about is Peter Lombard’s Sentences which is just a collection of common comments people in about books that he thought were good for teaching. (I have been working on implementing a HTML cross reference version of it using Twine, and have been trying to parse [pun intended] a theological discussion about what it means to enjoy not use god. Larger project is to recreate an accessible “medieval curriculum” through Twine)

    As much as I’d fantasize about all my books preserved as a library, they’ll probably be separated from each other someday. The least I can do is put my soul in them - tuck a pamphlet or bookmark, a movie ticket. I’ve never been unhappy seeing a comment in a book - I was reading a 60 year old middle school text recently, and discovered a kid had wrote “[clearly female name] is a MAGGOT F_GGOT!!!!!!” which was just so fucking hilarious.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It's a mass-produced book, and a paperback at that. You can certainly keep any such book in good condition to archive or re-read on your own terms. But that stack of acid-paper and cheap glue is going to eventually self-destruct. Unless it's a limited production run, in danger of getting burned, autographed, is an actual collectable, or something else that makes it distinct or valuable, I say: go for it.

    Source: I own a stack of these from back in the day. Despite my best efforts to store them appropriately, they're all slowly rotting away. Some things just aren't meant to last.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    When you get right down to it, that's true for everything. Everything self-destructs eventually. So, that seems like a strange reason to destroy it prematurely.

    Of course, if it's your book, you can do whatever you want with it. It just seems needlessly wasteful.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Well... Because it's not wasteful at all. The point is to make it easier to read. As long as you're not rough with it, all the pages should stay in, and then you can put both halves back on the shelf when you're done (or just recycle it, since paper is one of the few things that's actually recyclable). Nothing is being destroyed.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    had this occur with my first copy of ninjas and superspies and ended up punching holes in it and putting it in a 3 ring binder. the binding - and slimness of the book so it had a thin spine - wasn't meant to lay open.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Unless it's Warren Peace, no one should be doing this!?

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Warren peace

    Guessing you're dictating this to your less-cultured secretary?

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I cut mine cross-wise to save space. There is a lot of authors who make no sense.

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    Before seeing this i thought i was anti death penalty.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    The reason I only find half of a story when exploring in video games

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    This doesn't actually save much space, which is why I cut mine in half horizontally across the pages

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know, I'm a priest and I once sliced up a Bible for personal use.

    Tthere was once a particular version of the Bible that I wanted, but the publisher only made a hard-backed version. I hate hard-back books (especially Bibles). So I bought it and immediately sliced the cover off and made a new one out of old church bulletins and duct tape.

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    I used to be a school chaplain (a few years back when I was in my 30s) and one of the things I'd do to entertain myself sometimes was channel corny 90s youth pastor energy in my chapel talks. Like use just-no-longer-current slang, but also just slightly wrong. It was all warm-up for fatherhood, really.

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