Get decaf or drinking chocolate for yourself next time.
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Physical withdrawal symptoms are not an addiction
Ha. Cute. My mom committed. 😞
As a young person, I didn't need coffee or caffeine to get me going in the morning.
As a middle aged person, I really need coffee. A few times a day.
The good thing is that coffee withdrawals are over quite quickly and don't have long-term effects.
But getting peer pressured into an addiction by one's mom of all people is ironic.
This is how I, and everyone I know, started smoking.
Want a break at in work? You can have your legally mandated 15 minutes for every 8 hour shift.
Or you can become a smoker and get <10 minutes of every hour.
As an external employee that gets bought specifically to realize a project/idea/task I found out that smoking made it easier to connect to the employees there and exchange information/get help/whatever.
I only smoked there, after work when I got home, even on weekends, I did not smoke.
Now harness that addiction and turn it into a hobby!
To the uninitiated, coffee is a surprisingly deep rabbit hole
Did you know the french invented the espresso? Scholars still debate if the name comes from 'exprès' (as in specially made for you) or 'express' (as in fast).
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The story goes that coffee was found when a goat herders goats ate the berries, and got all excited.
A bit worried, the goat herder went to the local religious authorities and told his story. The sanction was severe, the devil lives in the berries, burn them all down to the ground!
So off they all went, torches in hand, but when they put fire to the coffee plants, it smelled so good that the clergy decided it couldn't be the devils work and retracted the condemnation, and thus coffee was discovered!
I always thought it came from "being pressed through the coffee grounds"
You're under the impression the mom was judging her? It is a very normal human tendency to want to mirror others. That's all this is.
I don't see it that way at all. The two wanted to sit together, the daughter subconsciously needed to mirror her mother, so she did. It doesn't say anything about my relationship with friends I used to hang out with, that I smoked cigarettes with "socially". I never asked them if I could not smoke, they never pressured me to smoke in any way. I simply had an instinct to do what they were doing. I felt more comfortable that way. I've dated women who hated beer but when surrounded by people drinking beer, they would drink half of one. I think this kind of thing is extremely common. Peer pressure isn't always overt, as in someone suggesting someone do something others are doing.
Is "coffee addiction" the new meme? I've been seeing this pop up over and over again across social media.
Conspiracy theory brain goes: This meme trend has to be an attempt at manufacturing consent to reduce caffeine consumption due to rising coffee prices due to climate change. That way when coffee is phased out, it doesn't cause a huge outrage and is just seen as a thing only addicts use and it falls into the same "moral failing" BS as any other addiction because we all need to be "healthier".
I don't think that's it though because there are plenty of energy drink companies trying to pick up former coffee drinkers who are looking for lower cost alternatives.
lower cost alternatives
lol
Once you have the wherewithal to grind your own coffee and acquire a percolator or a French press, a cup of coffee is dirt cheap and only takes like five minutes. Doesn't take -that- long to recoup the costs, either, if you're a regular drinker.
Buying coffee from Starbucks every morning is for suckers.
Currently yes, but the cost of beans is going to continue to increase as climate change worsens. We've already seen disruptions in harvests and price hikes due to this. We'll see how it shakes out in the long run for total cost increase.
Also, if we're comparing buying an energy drink on the go vs a cup of coffee on the go, energy drinks are already much cheaper. The convenience aspect shouldn't be ignored. Generally though, I agree, buying a coffee every day is for suckers.
I'm reading "The Zoomers are Killing Coffee" headlines in my mind's eye already.
It’s definitely weird whatever it is. Can’t drink together because not both having coffee?
I'm pretty sure caffeine is a performance enhancing drug for a lot of jobs so no chance of that. Plus like you allude to, it can be synthetically manufactured for cheap without worrying about growth conditions or import of coffee beans.
Caffeine is extremely addictive and the withdrawal symptoms are quite severe.
I haven't noticed this personally. I quit for two weeks a while back and didn't notice any physical symptoms and just missed the ritual.
How many cups did you drink daily before the break?
Just one, or an energy drink <=150mg caffeine. Basically, at most 150mg caffeine, any more and I notice issues with my sleep.
I wish, man. I get a headache only tylenol can fix if I'm like 3 hours late.
Next time mix hot chocolate with the coffee to improve taste! Also get a chocolate addiction
That’s sad
Don’t fall for peer pressure, people
Since when are coffee withdrawals so powerful? They've never even been noticeable to me. Since when do you develop coffee dependence (there is no such thing as addiction from coffee afaik) so quickly? I think OP is severly overestimating the dangers of coffee, and meanwhile I'm here drinking it purely for health (especially heart) and cognitive function, not energy.
Depends on the person. I used to get a splitting headache after ~36 hours of not drinking coffee (i.e. sunday mornings) and would be useless for that day until everything was fine again Monday morning for work. Took me a while to realize it was caffeine withdrawal.
At that point I might do a full medical checkup. If it's so easy to get headaches and become "useless" for the day just because of coffee, that sounds like something else is going on in your body that makes you extra suspecible to these things, but I'm no medical professional, it just sounds extreme/rare to me, something worth checking out
No, your experience is yours, others have other experiences. We don't all have the same exact reaction to caffeine. Don't project how things affect you on others.
I understand, but coffee is amongst the most consumed things in the world, yet headaches from it is something I don't really hear around, so it's not completely wild or out of the blue to suggest a check-up. Something similar was happening to me with energy drinks 10+ years ago, which was related to my blood pressure.
The headaches are not from coffee, they are from the caffeine withdrawal. Try drinking 5-7 cups of strong coffee per day 5 days a week for an extended time and I'm sure you'll see some kind of withdrawal symptoms on Sundays.
Oh, I thought caffeine is the active ingredient in coffee, and so you consume it, and talk about it, just like when people talk about weed, they talk about THC, even tho still saying weed, but okay.
Anyway, I've done what you told me to do for half of my life, and like I said before - I have not noticed withdrawal symptoms whatsoever.
I’ve done what you told me to do for half of my life, and like I said before - I have not noticed withdrawal symptoms whatsoever.
Then you are exceptionally resistant. Congrats. Caffeine withdrawal is super common.
I feel safe saying feeling no withdrawal from coffee isn't exceptional, it's borderline normal. From quick googling, only 10-20% actually have withdrawal symptoms that ruins your day. Up to 40-50% can have mild/noticeable effects, so it's safe to say I'm majority, not exceptional or special.
so by your own numbers, 50-70% do have withdrawal symptoms. While not lotto-win unique, you'd still be in a (large) minority, while most people have some symptoms.
I do a coffee detox every Sunday, and can tell you that the brainfog and lethargy is real. In my case, it's 2-3 cups a day Mon-Sat for this effect to occur on Sunday.
If I limit myself to 1 cup of coffee a day, and do the Sunday detox I just generally feel irritable and eat more sweet things to compensate but without any headaches
Folks who drink coffee consistently are likely perpetually dehydrated and get worse sleep on average cuz they use the coffee to counteract the effects of less sleep daily.
Coffee literally hydrates you. The fact that you believe a popular myth makes me assume you don't really understand coffee.
The worse sleep is a fair argument, but coffee drinkers generally live by a golden rule - no coffee 6 hours before bed.
EDIT: Ffs Lemmy, it really isn't that hard to search and learn something new instead of just downvotting.
Moderate coffee consumption hydrates you similarly to water, debunking the myth that its diuretic effect causes dehydration. While caffeine is a mild diuretic, the high water content in coffee outweighs this effect. Daily coffee drinkers develop a tolerance, allowing coffee to contribute effectively to daily fluid needs.
Caffeine addiction is definitely a real thing and there are real physical withdrawal symptoms associated with it. It's a psychoactive stimulant, why would addiction not be possible? Addiction is just your body adjusting to the constant stimulation, then once that's stopped there's an adjustment period where it needs to regulate your neurotransmitters back up to a normal level.
Medical/clinical addiction normally revolves around hard-to-control cravings (can't stop thinking about it, might get aggressive if prevented from getting it), loss of control, etc. Dependence is essentially making your body used to something, and then having to consume it to feel normal, or feel like shit when you stop consuming it. While addiction and dependence are similar, addiction is far more brutal and hard to quit. By no means coffee is as hard to skip as cigarette, to anyone. If your reaction is "wow, coffee makes my head hurt, I don't want it", that's pretty opposite of addictive substance.
https://www.science.org/content/article/coffee-cravers-are-not-addicts
That's weird, that's the opposite of what I was taught, which was that dependence was a psychological reliance on a drug and addiction was the body's physical response and adjustment to the drug. Doing a quick google it seems like those terms have been switched, likely to take away some of the stigma due to the whole addiction is a disease thing.
Depends on how much caffeine you drink...turns out not everyone is exactly like you. Go figure.
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