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[+] 239 points 8 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 312 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    That's easy to say with the benefit of hindsight in 2026. However, back in 2021, it was easy to say without the benefit of hindsight.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I think it was even easier to say in 2021, because more people knew about it and the scam was even more obvious. Now, in 2026, most people's hindsight doesn't go back that far, it was quickly forgotten as it should be, and people are like "huh? NFT?"

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Walking up to a game of Three Card Monte and saying "It's pretty obvious he's palmed the Queen" mostly just gets you heckled and chased away.

    Part of the problem with digital spaces is that you've got your person setting up the scam, and then you've got your layer of people marketing the scam, and then you've got your first layer of suckers who think they are coming out ahead on the scam, and then you've got the second layer of suckers who all know a tier-one sucker who just got rich. And then you've got the bots and the ideologues and the contrarians and the know-it-alls, all repeating the line that the person who set up the scam encourages them to say.

    And it's over all that cacophony that you announce "It's obviously a scam". Then Reddit boots you for violating terms and conditions of the platform.

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  • [–] 85 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Under a grand. Is there anyone really stupid enough to think this is still worth anything at all?

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

    I would actually pay like $100 to say I own the EFT some moron paid millions of dollars for. I've bought dumber things. I paid real money for a 100 trillion dollar zimbabwe bill that is completely worthless. Great for cocaine! I've also paid hundreds of dollars for 1 night of cocaine, dozens of times, and have nothing to show for any of them.

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  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Pro tip: don't do cocaine while you still can choose.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah i was thinking that the other day when they were talking about an 11 million dollar EFT now valued at 100 USD.

    I was like, shit, I'd pay 100 USD for that one.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Plus imagine if another bubble came and some donkey was willing to pay a ton for it again for some dumb reason.

    A 100 dollar meme like that would be worth it IMO.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    You can just say you did that without having to pay the money, the only thing you’d be missing is a website (that probably won’t be around much longer) confirming you did that. That’s kinda why NFTs didn’t work.

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  • [–] 149 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Everyone comment how much did they lose on NFTs.

    I will start: $0.

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  • [+] 65 points 8 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 67 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I found value in shitting on people buying them. $0 monetary gain, but at least $10 in schadenfreude.

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I trolled people by setting their NFT as my avatar in the chat rooms they were in. Im going to value that at $100.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Better hope they don’t sue you for copyright infringement.

    /s

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    My favorite bit was how basically none of the NFTs included copyright ownership. Like, if it was a quick and easy way to publicly deal in copyright ownership, maybe pointing to a .gov site showing the transfer of ownership to the holder of that specific nft then it would actually be useful and maybe even worth something. But nah, they were treating digital assets like physical paintings and hoping rarity of an infinitely copiable object was value.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I've been watching a lot of Antiques Roadshow clips and I imagined one of the appraisers doing a valuation of your shenanigans.

    "You bought this magnificent piece sillyness when and for how much?"

    "oh I just copypasted it to my profile for no money at all"

    "Well that was very good deal indeed, because on in todays money the entertainment value alone is in the hundreds of pounds."

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Putting a dollar figure on your schadenfreude? Do you want a block chain based "prediction market" for schadenfreude? That's how you get a block chain based "prediction market" for schadenfreude.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Yes, as long as I'm on the receiving end of the pump and dump. In the end, I'll only be taking money from people that clearly have too much. I'll donate some to some good charity so it's not a bad thing

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    I actually made money from NOT putting any of my investment money in NFTs and instead putting it somewhere else.

    Then again, from the very start the NFT mania looked like a more obvious and dumb version of the Tulip Bulb mania, so I can hardly claim great wisdom from not having put a cent in it.

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  • [–] 53 points 8 months ago

    If you weren't using them to launder money for a criminal enterprise, then you were doing them wrong.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago

    The whole NFT thing was one giant pump and dump.

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  • [+] 41 points 8 months ago (20 children)
  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    The best scams are either holistic/psychic stuff or Hi-fi Audio.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    A good scam is all about finding a way to bypass bs detectors. Appealing to greed or fear while adding a sense of urgency are the classic ones for good reason. But you've got others like appealing to in group/out group dynamics, distrust of institutions, ego, desired self image, laziness, carelessness so much more. You've also got those selecting to trigger anyone with a bs detector to only spend time on those without one.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    High Fi audio is actually legit to a point. Over $300 (well, $400 now with tariffs) is when the scam begins

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

    Not necessarily. For headphones it can go higher. I'm currently looking at hifiman unveiled.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    This sequence of comments has me cracking up.

    “I need a thing to make suckers out of morons”

    …

    “You should sell them audiophile shit”

    …

    “Well.. some audiophile shit is ok.. up to point.. after that, you’re def a sucker!”

    …

    “Actually… you’re not a sucker at all if you spend a bunch of money on this shit. Here, take my money!”

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I get what you're saying, but there are basically only 3 companies whose headphones are worth 300-600€. Said companies took decades, mountain of innovations and patents to get where they are now.

    If you can actually get that kind of immersion and quality cheaper - I'm all ears. Literally

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    No judgement intended, and I agree! Trust me when I say that I have an unhealthy amount of money “invested” in headphones and amplifiers. I saw way too much of myself in both sides of that comments thread to not laugh.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you're talking about the Susvara unveiled or whatever they're currently 15k aud. That is fucking wild.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Ok - hear me out.

    We get idk 1000 of us poors to buy some cheap land in the Midwest. Up in Appalachia.

    We sell “Rapture Survival Communities”

    They’re $999/month and you’ll get a hidden bungalow community complete with bunker. We’ll fill it with doctors and pastors and birthing women.

    BUT YOU CANT KNOW THE LOCATION UNTIL THE RAPTURE HAPPENS. You don’t want any pesky liberals finding it and gaying up the place with their liberal demonic child sacrifice transness.

    We will deliver coordinates via analog radio and Morse code once the rapture has started.

    By business plan makes Sam Altman hard in his butt:

    1. Collect money
    2. Don’t build anything.
    3. repeat

    When they come screaming for proof and receipts and refunds… Just gaslight them and buy a politician.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately for you you don't have what it takes. You need to be a proper psychopath to scam others.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm working on the grift of all gifts, if you want in, you can buy shares of my grift for $100 each.

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    but for a brief period of time, some people made some money, while most participants lost

    edit: do AI next

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  • [–] 64 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    What? You mean digital art that infinitely reproducible, can't actually be owned, WASN'T the next big thing? Oh jeez. I hope the metaverse succeeds and if not then AI surely will RIGHT?!?!

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Hey but this cryptographic key says that I own it because I paid made up currency units for it or something

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Hey but that made up currency I worked for by burning electricity, I mean MINING it.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Hey, but the recent changes means I earned that made up currency by proving I own more than you!

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My favorite thing is there are certain NFTs that are viruses that as soon as you do ANYTHING with them, they go and transfer all of the contents of your wallet to another wallet. Even deleting them triggers this action. So if you have unknown NFTs in your wallet you can’t touch them lest they trigger this virus.

    How could this not be the future of commerce?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    WHAT?!? I've never heard of that! That's nefarious! WOW!

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago*

    Also worth noting. The Bored Ape Yaht Club NFTs (in the thumbnail) were released by 4chan trolls with Nazi symbolism hidden in some of them. This was the most successful NFT project of them all.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This is the least surprising thing ever

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    A grand is still 1000 dollars too high a price for these things.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Speculating on the value of an investment based on an asset that doesn't exist is similar to scammers offering to sell certificates of ownership of dogs' souls.

    Capitalism tends over time to create increasingly abstract forms of ownership. And what could be more abstract than ownership of something that isn't there at all? They're selling GUIDs that point to nothing.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    This was never anything aside from a scam designed to separate the tech illiterate from their money.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    How could it possibly be worth more than pennies?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Who could have predicted this? Literally impossible without hindsight and that's the revisionist history I'm sticking to.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Anyone with the most basic common sense knew it was going to end up like this.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago*

    Etherium was run out of the offices of JP Morgan Chase and NFTs were a gimmick to boost the deal flow of their then-underperforming crypto offering.

    It was, by and large, an enormous investment in sales and marketing on top of a ton of insanely shady business practices. Case in point, the infamous Beeple NFT that sold for $69.3M was purchased with Etherium to showcase Christie’s auction house accepting cryptocurrency for auction bids. The winning bidder for artwork was an early crypto adopter and marketer named Vignesh Sundaresan who was flush with these tokens, but lacked any kind of liquid market to sell them into yet. That's before you get into the Congo Line of largely clueless celebrities going on Late Night comedy shows to plug their online pogs.

    It's trite to say that the whole thing was a scam because... duh. But I think people read this as "just dumb people being stupid with their stupid dumb money" and ignore the layer upon layer of market manipulation and con-artistry that went into making cryptocurrencies what they are today.

    The fact that Donald Trump is using them to launder bribes from Middle Eastern dictators and East Asian kleptocrats should illustrate how deep these rabbit holes can go. It's so much more than just peddling bad clipart to dumb bros.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Who could have thought it?

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    [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    I remember playing with Stable Diffusion in 2022, and thinking "Oh. That's the end of NFTs."

    NFT art was stupid to begin with, of course, but SD was such a blatent, extreme inverse of the "artifical digital scarcity" angle. If I wanted a shitty, albeit "unique" and deterministically reproducible digital image, I could just make it in 30 seconds on a desktop. If I wanted a certain look, I could use img2img or eventually controlnet and all sorts of augmentations.

    Yes, junky AI was junky AI, but ironically it was the antithesis of everything NFTs stood for. Instead of "digital information is worth commodifying at great expense," it was "digital information is basically free." And I still find it amusing that Tech Bros and con artists jumped from one ship to the other so quickly, or somehow have feet in both.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Whoever could have seen this coming

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    NFT just served as a training opportunity for the people behind it to learn how to get away with legally scamming people, not surprised the Reddit admin was all in on it when it came out.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    That was the most goddamn awful thing ever seen. Where are those shitheads who first sold the fucking idea?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Its not worth a single cent in reality

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