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[–] 200 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Sounds like there needs to be some sort of efficiency department set up

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  • [–] 147 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    For healthcare? Education? Can’t possibly imagine what …

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  • [–] 84 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Maybe they are secretly building a super efficient and expansive social safety net behind our backs and making it a surprise!!!!

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You are more likely to become soylent green.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    No they are building a space ray to shoot down some planet we never heard of.

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  • [–] 88 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Good thing the fiscally responsible party is in power

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  • [–] 76 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    interest payments on the debt are expected to exceed $1 trillion this year

    If my finger-counting math is right ye yanks, on average (including children), are paying ~$250 a month just in interests... I ain't no economist but that seems like a lot.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Gets worse when you realize it’s mostly the middle class paying it

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  • [–] 65 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    There's no such a thing as 'middle class'. The working class is paying all of it.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    It's not fair. It's reality and exactly by design. It's always been a class war and rich people have been winning for a very long time.

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    It's actually worse than this if you just consider the number of working adults.

    Which is about 165 million.

    Which means every working adult is paying ~$500/m just on the interest.

    Which.... Isn't working, at all, the US is cooked.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    The only good jews is the working class has already been squeezed really hard. We can't support that debt. The wealthy are going to have to start chipping in

    I know in being optimistic here, but it's possible for another FDR-type era

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Its less when you realize that the debt is mostly held by American investors.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Makes me feel so much better knowing my hard-earned money is going to wealthy Americans /s

    The working class is who pays disproportionately high taxes. The wealthy are the ones holding large numbers of bonds

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  • [–] 65 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Damn ... if only there was a department of government efficiency to stop insane and fiscally irresponsible shit like this.

    Or ... we need a branch of government that "controls the purse" so crazy spending like this doesnt happen.

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  • [–] 59 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Ah, Republicans. They make a huge deal about spending any time they are not in power and then spending like a drunk Sailor when in power.

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  • [–] 57 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Overseen by man with significant history of refusing to repay loans.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    so rather than just pay a tax like a socialist country would up front, US is now only just surviving on tariffing ..which is paid … by their own people ….as a tax. On top of whatever tax you already pay ……while digging more deficits.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    You know, I used to think that "our children will have to pay for it" only applied to the working class.

    Now I'm wondering if the people in power recognize how this might end badly for their offspring. I hope it does.

    There's a 0% chance I'm going to slave away while some rich family's children live like gods.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Man says he'll never do the thing he's been doing is whole adult life.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Not everyone got trapped in wage slavery, just the majority of you. Those of us who didn’t still care tho. We want you to have a drug dealers life style without having to sell drugs ❤️

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Unless you're part of the owner class you're a wage slave too comrade.

    Class consciousness is the only way out of this.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I mean what’s the owner class? I own my house and my car. I own my own farm and water. I farm my own food/tobacco/pot. I own assets and participate in capital markets. I have never earned a wage from a capitalist so idk. We can have solidarity and want the same thing, but like I said not all of us are ‘wage slaves’. I used to have employees and none of them were wage slaves. All my employees paid off their college loans and bought houses, and still had disposable income to party.

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My esteemed congratulations to 1930's history enthusiasts.

    You're about to relive it

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Just for the sake of argument: It's possible to create gasoline from any hydrocarbon feedstock (wood, cow shit, OSB scraps, rice hulls, sugar) for about $12/gallon. At 42 gallons of gas/jet fuel/diesel/kerosene per barrel of oil, that's roughly $504 of finished product per barrel (@ $12/gal).

    That means $50 billion would get you about 100 million barrels of synthesized oil. Since the US consumes about 20,000,000 barrels of oil per day we'd be able to synthesize 5/7ths of our oil consumption from waste biomass for that $50 billion per week. Food for thought.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    wouldnt it be pretty expensive to bio-convert plants/animals into fuel. instead of just extracting it from the ground. and not even including extracting it from things like corn.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago

    Thank god Doge found all that extra money.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    They say anything to get into power. Literally anything. None of it matters and they know it.

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  • [–] 71 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    I just saw a study that said if Trump continued on at this rate, he will be responsible for 55% of the national debt. And that was BEFORE the Iran War.

    When we get these psychopaths out, and start to rebuild, we already know that they'll suddenly get fiscally conservative, and they'll pretend to be concerned about spending.

    When that happens, just take theirs away. THEY are responsible for the debt, so if it bothers them so much, they should be the ones to make the sacrifice to pay it back.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They already pretended to care about spending and then some guy called Big Balls helped Elon Musk harvest all our data

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Republican administration completely fucks up the budget, leaves office with massive deficit

    Democrat administration spends the next 4 years cleaning up that clusterfuck

    GOP tells it's dumbfuck base that it's all the Dems fault that their 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 gets 8 mpg and they're gonna fix everything

    Dumbfuck republican voters fall for it, yet again, because they never passed the 9th grade and have been huffing diesel exhaust for the past 20 years

    Dumbfuck masses rally and vote in another Republican administration

    That cycle has gone on repeat over and over and over again for literally my entire lifetime. It's all I know. That has been my experience with with the US government, for my whole life.

    I'm tired, boss.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Dumbfucks will always dumbfuck. Trick is to get the voters who stayed home. The numbers I found with a quick search ...

    Trump won 49.8% of the popular vote.

    Of the 65.3% of the eligible voters who voted.

    Which means actually only 32.5% of Americans voted for him, in the sense of "could be arsed to get off the couch and cast a ballot".

    That's an encouraging number to work with.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Maybe if more people showed up and voted instead of bitching about the choices available, we wouldn't get a broligarch blowing republican in office every 4-8 years. Less than 70% of voters ever show up, so those of us who don't show up are also responsible for letting the republicans win every other cycle or so.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    assume the dems are going to get in, given the recent events i dont see how some of them will get elected, with people like schumer/hakeems and the other dinos, NEWSOM is pretty unattractive right now . they are complicit to the GOP agenda, only AOC, bernie, and maybe some other is fighting it.

    are people even going to remember what hakeem and schumer did in the next election, who they tried to shield when voting for the shutdown.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I kinda suspect that debts to people and companies within the US would mostly get erased. Because at the end of the day, money is a fictional thing we invented to make it easier to conduct trade. Odds are that we would take away the real valuables from the former elites - their buildings, land, assets, and finding jobs for honest workers at places that don't suck donkey.

    We might be able to beg foreign nations to delay or restructure debts. Maybe. Depends on whether the diddler in chief presses the nuclear button.

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh man, this must be that FiScAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy I keep hearing about from the reich right

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I disagree, according to my observation U.S. borrowed at least $69.7B per week 1 394,11 / 20

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    United States of America 3,75% 25/32	US91282CPF22	98.81	03/11/2025	USD	100	31/10/2025	3.75%	31/10/2032	46.53 bn	
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    United States of America 4,75%  26/56	US912810UR76	0.00	18/02/2026	USD	100	15/02/2026	4.75%	15/02/2056	32.08 bn
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    United States of America 4,625% 26/46	US912810UT33	99.95	24/02/2026	USD	100	15/02/2026	4.63%	15/02/2046	17.92 bn	
    United States of America 3,375% 26/28	US91282CQB09	99.71	27/02/2026	USD	100	28/02/2026	3.38%	29/02/2028	77.27 bn	
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