Hej lemmings! (Hoping this is relevant enough for the selfhosted commjnity)

Quick question for you all: do you stick with the same distro across your PC, laptop, and server, or do you pick different ones based on the device and what you're doing?

For me, I've been mixing and matching depending on the use case, but I'm starting to think it'd be nice to just have one distro (or at least one family like Fedora or Debian) running everywhere. That way I wouldn't get confused about default settings or constantly have to look up flags for different package managers.

Right now my setup is:

  • Gaming rig: CachyOS
  • Laptop: AuroraOS
  • NAS: Unraid
  • Various project servers: DietPi, Debian, Alpine etc..

I feel like NixOS might be the only distro that could realistically handle all these use cases, but I'm a bit scared of the learning curve and the maintenance work it'd take to migrate everything over.

Am I the only one who feels like having "one distro to rule them all" would be nice? How do you guys handle your setups? All ears! 😊

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[–] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Yep. Debian. I like apt, and I like shit that just....works. I'm very much a form after function kind of person. Plus, Debian was the first Linux distro I became most familiar with at a young age. So what if a bunch of packages are on "old" versions. They work. The kernel works. KDE Plasma works. I can do everything I want to do without having to constantly be on the bleeding edge. If you prefer newer things, that's great. I prefer older, more proven things. That's also why I drive Toyota cars and old Honda motorcycles.

My Proxmox cluster runs...uh...Proxmox, which is based on Debian. NAS runs OMV which also runs on top of Debian. Laptops all run Linux Mint Debian Edition 7, and my 5800X3D/7900XTX gaming PC runs LMDE6 (will be upgrading to 7 soon). The only non-Debian machines in my house are my wife's iMac and Macbook Pro, and the Home Assistant mini PC.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    That’s the same philosophy I’ve applied for a long time. Recently, I found out that gaming is an exception to the rule, though. While older versions are just fine for the most part, there are edge cases where that no longer applies. I also found out that I care about one of them. Until you hit that brick wall, there’s no reason to switch. Just keep on using Debian for everything.

    Took me a while to realise that I was spending way too much time figuring out workarounds instead of actually gaming. I ended up using Bazzite in my gaming rig because it works so well for that purpose.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I've yet to run into major issues with gaming. But I'm curious what issue you ran into that caused the switch to Bazzite? I actually tried Bazzite briefly on my latest laptop acquisition (HP Spectre x360) before going with LMDE 7; I didn't like the immutable aspect. I'm a tinkerer at heart and can't handle not being able to get under the hood, so to speak.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    It was Space Engineers 2. Even made a post about the journey.

    All the other games were just fine though. If you don’t stumble upon one of these edge cases, there’s no reason to switch.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Hmmm.

    Under LMDE7, the HP Spectre does great with the games I've thrown at it so far (BeamNG.Drive, Hollow Knight, Factorio, Universe Simulator, Minecraft, etc), but despite exceeding the minimum specs, it really struggled with running anything in RPCS3. Stuttering, frame drops, graphics simply not loading, etc... I ended up writing off RPCS3 in general as "too heavy for a laptop" and tasked my desktop gaming PC as the dedicated PS3 emulator - works great.

    Sounds like I might have to give Bazzite a shot again on the HP. I use that laptop for a lot of things, including diagnostics software for my cars, but I also have a perfectly-capable AMD Thinkpad T14 G1 hanging around that needs a purpose, too.

    It was Space Engineers 2. Even made a post about the journey.

    What was the actual issue you ran into though? I didn't see it in your post. I believe you, but my curiosity is piqued.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, that post was getting way too long, so I made some cuts here and there. The issue was in the way SE2 detects hardware... or more like doesn't detect my GPU at all, throws an error about it and refuses to start. Under Bazzite it starts the game first πŸŽ‰, then complains that my hardware might not be good enough to run this game 🀯, but the beautiful graphics say otherwise. It's still in early access, so I guess this kind of strange behavior will be ironed out sooner or later.

    I got tired of researching this issue in Debian, so once I got it up and running in Bazzite, I stopped reading about it. Honestly, I have no idea what's the key difference here. Is it the driver version, Proton-GE or something else? Who knows.

    Anyway, I would recommend trying Bazzite. It has some pre-configured tricks that seem to handle weird cases like this.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Servers are all Debian. Family member's laptops are all Debian. I used Debian on my laptops for 20 years, but when Steam Deck switched to Arch, I switched my laptop to Arch to force me to learn it. I have a file with notes of differences between Debian and Arch. Next time I buy a new laptop, I will probably go back to Debian.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    I've converted everything to NixOS (Desktop, laptop, nas and 3d printer, rpi with home assistant) only my router is still pfSense (and thus BSD). It just makes configuration and updating so much easier from one central configuration. And I don't have to remember what and how I installed something. It's just there in my flake.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I haven't looked at Nix in detail but you got me interested for 3d printers in particular, already have my klipper config in git if an SD card fails on me, going to have to look at doing that for the os too.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I love it for using klipper. But when I started doing it the klipper pkgs did give me some troubles. You can work around them, but know you might find some issues on the way. Maybe it's better now, I haven't really updated that part of my config much recently.

    Do know that not all arm devices are equally supported. rpi 3 and 4 are, the rest is community based (see: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM). Personally I run klipper on a x86_64 thin client for this reason and because raspberry pi's were scarce and expensive back then.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    The machines I use regularly are all some form of ArchLinux (currently mostly CachyOS). Machines I use rarely I stick to LTS distros with few updates. Machines I don't maintain myself I try to stick to immutable distros that just update themselves every once in a while (less chance of breakage).

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  • [+] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I'm kinda with you, with a slight change: raspberrys that can't run Arch Linux on Arm run Raspberry Pi OS, so, almost Debian.

    Everything else: Arch.

    (Oh... and pfSense on FreeBSD... but let's not muddy the water)

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Fedora KDE for anything I need a GUI for, Debian for anything headless.

    I've used damn near everything else in 30 years of Linux, but I'm pretty sure my tombstone will run Debian.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I do, but it's more out of laziness than anything else. I hate having to remember sixteen different ways of doing things, so I tend to configure all my stuff as identical as reasonably possible. Is this the best way of doing things? Probably not. But it keeps my blood pressure down.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Yes. Everything is NixOS. Because it's perfect for everything.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    And it's very handy for this, I have the same config for all my devices (desktop, laptop and server). Enabling and disabling different modules depending on the host it's deployed to.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Yep, exactly.

    To be fair, if you use Debian, Arch, Fedora,... long enough, you also know how to tweak your machine for every purpose. In Nix, it's just somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, because you have to know how to tweak your system to achieve.... anything, and then it's the same tweaking mechanics for every other purpose as well.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    What is the learning/on-boarding curve for this?

    I ask because my home folder has a giant just file I use to script everything. I feel like I’m 80% there to just migrating.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It's a very steep curve to start, with some additional minor steep parts along the way, but it's not a long curve. Once you got the core concepts and the basic language constructs, you've learned most of what you'll ever need.

    Two nice resources: search.nixos.org is super handy, and you can search GitHub with language:nix and a search term to get tons of examples from other people.

    Oh, and nix and just is actually a pretty common combo!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'd say that if you're an experienced developer, the learning curve is probably overstated, at least based on my limited experience. I'm still a relatively new user, but I'm feeling pretty comfortable with it so far.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Hitting obscure issues with limited documentation and barely any forum discussions on it in search results is killing me though. But at the same time NixOS makes a lot of things incredibly easy and offloads having to remember any changes so it's worth all the effort for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Same here, except the steam deck.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    yes. Everything is Fedora Silverblue, except servers they are ubuntu on proxmox.

    My hobby is gaming, linux is just a means to do that hobby, not a hobby itself.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I love how this post doesn't even pretend that anyone may use anything but Linux. Classic Lemmy.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Debian on my servers. No drama, it just works.

    Fedora on my laptop and desktop. Still solid, but quicker updates.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Oooh, look at mr. Rich guy here with multiple devices.

    /s.... (not really, cries in only computer being a dying laptop from 2011 with no way to get even just another dying 2011 laptop when this one dies.)

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago*

    Server: debian

    Desktop: mint

    Laptop: pop-os

    Nanopi for travel Jellyfin: Debian.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Debian on server, arch of some kind for personal use

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    [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Laptop arch

    Web servers Debian or fedora.

    Looking into slackware for self hosting

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I used to use a variety. I’d use Arch on my desktop/gaming machine, Fedora on my laptop, and Debian on my server. But I got the NixOS bug a few years back and now I use that everywhere. It’s great to have every change and configuration documented and available for easy review or modification, and built in generation rollbacks are a lifesaver.

    Thinking of building an HTPC from some spare parts, and I think that’ll be the machine to buck the trend. Bazzite will be everything I need out of the box for that purpose without any effort for maintenance. It’s not getting customized or doing anything but games and media

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    No, and that's the beauty of Linux.

    Desktop gaming PC: Fedora KDE (might try Bazzite if I stop dual booting Windows, but I already got Nvidia set up and that's the hard part)

    Old laptop: Zorin OS

    Old as dirt laptop: antiX

    Wife's Surface: Pop!_OS 22.04. Maybe change it eventually to something lighter.

    I will likely go with Ubuntu Server or Debian when I set up my home server. Ubuntu seems like it has better Docker support.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    NixOS home server, gaming PC will soon move to Bazzite from Windows 10 (whenever I'm done working on my home server). I'm trying Bazzite for that machine because I use it more like a game console hooked up to the TV and don't need the same level of tweaking and customization.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    For me, I am running EndeavourOS on my laptop (for its rolling release updates and its customisability) and Debian on my homeserver (for its stability). I have also set up a secondary laptop with Linux Mint that is now being used by somebody else for its ease of use :)

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Jup, Debian stable on my three servers an on my laptop. I think its just way easier to run the same system everywhere. Also, Debian is a great distribution.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I use Arch (btw) on my desktops and laptops.

    On my servers I'm halfway through replacing Debian with openSUSE.

    My desktop and servers have different use cases and I interact with them in different ways, so there's little confusion for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I feel the same way. I use fedora on my laptops and desktops and debian on my servers. Generally my servers do not have or need a gui so debian makes it easy to install without. I tried fedora server once and i just was not happy with it.

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  • yes, it's Arch all the way for me. it's flexible in the way that I can configure it for any system I need, and I usually know what I want from it.

    my installations on my desktop and laptop look fairly similar, but my server and test computers can look different depending on the hardware specifications they have.

    plus, with BTRFS snapshots, if anything breaks I can simply roll back to a previous version of the system.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    My main desktop is Mint - I feel like most of the random pieces of software I find myself wanting to run are built for Ubuntu or at the very least a lfh distro.

    My server and random devices run NixOS, and I'm acrually considering combining all the config into a monorepo...

    My Raspberry PI I think runs Raspbian though. I should see if I can nixify it.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    Proxmox with plethora of distros (preferably Debian), openwrt, opnsense (freeBSD), the pies as well somewhere ... but my desktop & laptop are both Tumbleweed.

    (But I should try Bazzite myself at some point to understand if it's really a distro to recommend to Windows refugees looking for gaming & not learning anything or not that much "Linux related" immediately. It wouldn't be my guess, but the experiences I read here stayed with me for some reason.)

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Debian always. Stablility is good, good is stability. But i am open to trying fedora in the near future

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    ZorinOS for the desktop and PopOS on the laptop which also serves as a Plex server.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I mix, my server and laptop are nixos but I use an arch variant on my desktop. Mostly I do this because of various pain points with nixos and gaming.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Any pain points in specific you could point out?

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    Any games that you can just run on Steam without issue will work fine, it's when you have to start passing launch commands etc that things become more complicated. Most things are still possible but harder because you have to deal with the very unusual way Nixos stores its files. The specific thing that made me give up and go to CachyOS was trying to get gamescope working under wayland for Steam games -- every way I tried, I was having to compromise on what I actually wanted. Also VR has been easier to play with, though it's still far from Windows parity.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    arch on my two laptops, and desktop. proxmox on my server as the hypervisor, and debian on the vm/lxc. my routers are running openwrt.

    one of my laptops i use for testing, and i do switch distro's.. i've tried alpine, gentoo and i'd like to try openbsd. but arch is comfy

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I run unraid for my main servers (mostly out of convenience/ease), and pop-os for everything else. I treat my laptop as my beta tester for my desktop which is stable, but both use the same underlying os. Who has the time to troubleshoot more than one?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Everything but my server uses Arch (BTW). This is so I can have all devices have the same scripts for uniformity.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Arch for Gaming/Desktop, Debian for Server/Proxmox/VPS.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    i have slackware 15 on all, it's great how i can just copy over binaries and they just run because all the linked libraries are the same version

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Awesome. I've been meaning to try out slackware forever. Would love to use it as my servers

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    tbh there are really a lot of things that aren't on the repo or even the slackbuilds (kinda like arch AUR), kinda takes time to manage and install other packages. still i can't find a better distro yet so i'm keep using it..

    i should try gentoo/void/alpine/arch someday but i'm too lazy.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    no, i use archlinux on my main desktop as i use it daily and is my main workhorse. i have a laptop that rarely gets used at that has debian on. then i have a mini pc server with debian and a raspberry pi 4 with debian based raspberry pi os.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    No. Debian on the server. CachyOS on the laptop OPNsense / FreeBSD on the router-firewall appliance.

    I don't really feel like I need a single OS across everything. The lack of that has never been an issue.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Arch everywhere. LTS kernel on servers and zen kernel on desktop and laptop. I love the idea of nixos but in practice it felt like more work than it was worth (to me).

    I originally did Debian on servers but after using arch for long enough and never having stability problems, it was easier to move to the same distro.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I used to have Ubuntu everywhere, then changed to Debian for servers. Now that I'm using bazzite for my gaming rig, I really liked the idea and went to fedora silver blue on my work laptop. I'm the near future I want to re do my home lab, bit not sure yet what, unfortunately to many open questions concerning storage left.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Yes. Mint. Way enough, and I haven't figured out why I should like disto hop yet.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I use NixOS on everything ! This way, I can re-use parts of my configuration as a base, and customise only the few things that need to change from one machine to the other.

    The only exception is my Steam Deck. I trust Valve on that one, and my usage of it is so different from other computers as to make 95% of my config entirely irrelevant anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I typically use EndeavorOS because I enjoy how well documented and organized the arch wiki is.

    I tried switching to fedora on my laptop recently but actually had some issues with software that was apparently only distributed through the AUR or AppImage (which I could have used, I know).

    When I also had issues setting up my VPN to my home network again, I caved and restored the disk to a backup I took before attempting the switch. The VPN thing almost definitely wasn't Fedoras fault since I remember running into the same issue on EndeavorOS but after my fix from last time didn't work I was out of patience.

    My servers runs either on debian or Ubuntu LTS though.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I use Debian on servers, because stable.

    I use Fedora on desktops, because I game and I like having fixes for mesa, the kernel, and amdgpu for my latest gen AMD GPU. My laptop is for work, but it's just easier having consistency.

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  • laptop & desktop: both fedora silverblue

    home server: fedora server

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    SteamOS on my steam deck. Bazzite on my laptop. And fedora on my home server that I'm still learning how to set up(I have immich running in a container, but that was just following an online tutorial. Still trying to understand docker better.)

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Slackware on desktop, laptop and mini PC, Debian on anything smaller

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Almost everything is Debian - my servers, my desktop and laptops, my family member's computers, the living room media player. Only exceptions are my router (OpenWRT) and my Steam Deck (SteamOS).

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    All normal PCs run CachyOS, includes gaming PCs, laptops and media PCs. All servers run some form of Debian (includes Proxmox) or a dedicated distro for their use (TRUE WAS, technically also Debian based).

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I use Fedora on my desktop, laptop and server. On my motherβ€˜s laptop I have installed Fedora Kinoite.

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    Bazzite GNOME on my "it needs to work daily no matter what" school/work/light gaming laptop, ~250ish flatpak apps (mostly very awesome tiny GTK4-based tools)

    Devuan on my desktop PC, Trinity Desktop Environment, almost entirely apt apps, I do heavy multimedia work and gaming on it, I squeeze as much speed as I can

    Debian on my Linux phone (FuriLabs FLX1s running FuriOS, a fork of Droidian, which is a fork of Mobian, which is a fork of Debian), Phosh UI, almost entirely ~140ish flatpaks

    I try to keep my operating systems and software as controlled and predictable as possible, but I approach that differently depending on the usecase. Yes, I've tried NixOS, fell in love with it, and quickly realized it's overengineered and makes my head hurt. I also used CachyOS with TDE on my desktop for a while, was really speedy but TDE packaging for Arch really sucks compared to their Debian packaging

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Gentoo, Qubes on desktops. Cent, Gentoo, Alpine and OpenBSD for servers.

    Then there's weird stuff like MirageOS, DuskOS, openwrt, opnsense and I'm 90% sure there's a laptop with Kali purple in my trunk.

    For other people I usually install fedora spins or bazzite.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I do - more or less. Since I am the IT guy for my entire family and don't feel like doing tech support on 10 different distros.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    All my kubernetes nodes are Ubuntu but when I rebuild my cluster I'll probably moved to Talos. My Gaming Rig/Workstation runs Bazzite. My Dev laptop runs Aurora. The little differences between Aurora and Bazzite are a little irritating so if I ever have a reason to rebuild one I'll probably switch it.

    The PIs run whatever is most convenient for their purpose.

    My next NAS will probably run Unraid or TrueNAS, but for now its Synology.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    No, Arch for laptops/desktops. Debian for servers.

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    Ubuntu for the main pc and Arch for the filthy weird frankenstein laptop from 2008. Just as god intended.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    No, I've got nobara on my gaming rig, batocera on my wife's retro console that's just turned into a kodi device, and proxmox on my server

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Kind of.

    Fedora on workstations. Debian on servers

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    For me it depends on computer capability. 3 generations of laptop... Current: PopOS Older: MiniOS Oldest (32bit): AntiX

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    1 Fedora (laptop)

    1 bazzite (old gaming desktop)

    N+1 Debian on everything else than can

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Every now and then I try something else (usually live usb from ventoy) just to see how others evolve. I like endevour, but I always en up with debian minimal install. Only on mylaptop I add xfce4. It's just rock solid. For my wife's laptop it's elementary, only because of the looks just to make her move from windows to linux painlessly

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*
    • Servers: Ubuntu Jammy
    • NUC: Mint xfce
    • VMs: Kali, Mint, and a variety of others including WIndows & Mac.

    I hear a lot of chatter about NixOS. Going to have to check it out.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Nah. Debian for servers, Fedora for desktops and Arch for funtimes.

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    I didn't use to, but I do now. Debian on everything (except the Proxmox servers, but Proxmox is basically Debian too)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Servers are Debian Desktop is Arch Laptop is EndeavorOS

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Debian on homeservers, centos on work servers, and mint on desktops

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    My laptop needs reliability to be fairly certain I'll have everything working when I use it on poor internet, my desktop is always comnected to high bandwidth and has a decent cpu so I can spare a bit extra time and cycles on updating everything when something breaks

    Different needs

    I did like having the same thing going on on both for the couple months I used mint on both.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Desktop - Ubuntu Cinnamon LTS (I game and edit video this is also currently my Frigate host)

    Laptop - Ubuntu Budgie (It's basically just a thin client to access my desktop when I want to sit in the livingroom)

    Stepson's Desktop - ChimeraOS (Because I don't want to deal with anything in his room)

    Server - TrueNAS (Been using it since the FreeNAS 9 Era)

    Router - OpnSense (Been using that since before I started using FreeNAS)

    Different distro's suit different needs. Could I use a single one for everything, yeah with a lot of extra work I don't want to deal with. I'm much more hardware oriented and can make software work tried switching to Linux for everything in the mid 2000's but couldn't do things reliably with it till lately.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I normally install Linux based upon what I am doing. Gaming wise is usually popos. (I have eyed up CachyOS). I use Endeavor for a lot of old mac stuff. etc.

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  • Nope. Raspbian, Arch, Ubuntu, Ubuntu MATE (sorta samesies, I guess), Manjaro…I think that’s it.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Debian home server, macOS desktop, newer laptops run Arch and Fedora, and the two old MacBooks both run Mint DE. Oh, and OpenWrt on the router.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Yes and no, my main system is EndeavourOS as well as one laptop that stays docked in the bedroom as a media PC. My HTPC is running Mint with KDE, my Steam Deck is stock SteamOS, my MacBook Pro is running Asahi Linux, server running TrueNAS and Raspberry Pi's running stock Raspberry Pi OS. Mainly I just like KDE, and have a preference for Arch based systems.

    I prefer EndeavourOS and haven't had issues with it for a couple years now, but Mint on the HTPC was a reason to try Mint and I just left it alone except for swapping Cinnamon for KDE. Asahi is the only option for M1 MacBooks so no choice there. Pi OS I never really use the system as a computer, I just have one running PiHole and another running a digital calander for the wife and I, so I only interact with them through ssh or web portals. My Steam Deck works perfectly fine as is and I mainly just use the Steam launcher anyway so no point changing it. The TrueNAS system I mainly use through a web portal or SMB so it's fine.

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